Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-25 Thread Craig
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 00:53:09 -0500 David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: There was also a NHTSA recall for this problem: I wonder if MB would still honor the recall ... Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 300SD Model Year: 1979 Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ USA, INC. Mfr's Report

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-25 Thread LWB250
wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 7:36 PM Its not difficult, you just have to take all the belts and crap off.  I cant remember if you have to have a puller

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-25 Thread LWB250
--- On Fri, 12/24/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Seller said he thought the crank was bent from the balancer having been loose.  Is that at all likely?  Seems like it would take an awful lot of force to bend the crankshaft.  I could see things being chewed up to some

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Ok here is the deal, if the crank balancer is laying in the car because the key broke off and that is it, they would have had to remove it. If it fell off completely on its own, it would hae had to have broken off the bolt or done something bad to the crank. If the key broke off and that was

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-25 Thread Allan Streib
I need to get under the hood to see what's what. I'm hoping he didn't overheat it when the water pump stopped working. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Ok here is the deal, if the crank balancer is laying in the car because the key broke off and that is it, they would have

[MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Allan Streib
Seller told me where his '79 300SD was sitting (he's currently out of town) so I drove by it. The harmonic balancer has come loose and is currenly sitting on the passenger floorboard. It appears that the key has sheared off. I didn't look at the condition of the driveshaft because there was

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Is this the $4000 wonder? Offer him ten cents a pound, or maybe round it up to the $400 I suggested earlier, and if you can't fix it you can break even at the salvage yard. Pull off the trim, bumpers, grille and exterior lamps first if you scrap it. I now need a steering wheel myself. (oh,

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Is this the $4000 wonder? Yep. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The key is replaceable. Kind of a pain in the rear job though. I would offer $300 On 12/24/2010 2:26 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Seller told me where his '79 300SD was sitting (he's currently out of town) so I drove by it. The harmonic balancer has come loose and is currenly sitting on the

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Allan Streib
Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: The key is replaceable. Kind of a pain in the rear job though. I would offer $300 What's difficult about it? Is it a press-on fit or something? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its not difficult, you just have to take all the belts and crap off. I cant remember if you have to have a puller to get the balancer off or not. On 12/24/2010 6:31 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net writes: The key is replaceable. Kind of a pain in the rear job

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its not difficult, you just have to take all the belts and crap off. I cant remember if you have to have a puller to get the balancer off or not. Not when it's already laying on the floor inside the passenger compartment. But if it fits at all sloppy after running

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its not difficult, you just have to take all the belts and crap off. I cant remember if you have to have a puller to get the balancer off or not. Not when it's already laying on the floor inside the passenger compartment. But if

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Walt Zarnoch
There are a few companies that make torque bars for impact guns, that work quite well when used properly. I can't remember the names though... Walt On Dec 24, 2010 7:55 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its not

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: There are a few companies that make torque bars for impact guns, that work quite well when used properly. I can't remember the names though... Yeah, but I'm not sure if there's room for an impact wrench, let alone 6-12 of torque limiting extension. I hope the crank lines

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Peter Frederick
We welded a bar to the old balancer. Run it around so that it hits the floor and crank away. Works in either direction with some jiggling, although better on the 603 and M103 engines. Volvo has a tool that counterholds the crank, we made one from scrap. Peter

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: We welded a bar to the old balancer. Run it around so that it hits the floor and crank away. Works in either direction with some jiggling, although better on the 603 and M103 engines. How do you tighten the new balancer by welding a bar to the old balancer? Do you

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread Peter Frederick
On the M103 and OM603 the hub is separate from the balancer -- I don't think, upon reflection, that this is true of the OM61x engines. Don't remember what we did on the 75 300D when we found out we had omitted the space the front seal rides on -- it was missing from the engine when we got

Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD, rough

2010-12-24 Thread David Bruckmann
The difficulty is apparently in lining up the balancer, as discussed in the following thread over on the peachparts forum: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=115016 There was also a NHTSA recall for this problem: Make: MERCEDES BENZ Model: 300SD Model Year: 1979 Manufacturer: