Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Last I remember I put it on the compressor first and slipped it on the crank pulley. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember it being a bugger to get over the pulleys on the SD but it was the > proper size > > --FT > > >> On 7/6

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I remember it being a bugger to get over the pulleys on the SD but it was the proper size --FT On 7/6/17 2:09 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: 300SD The belt may be short, but by very little. Came with the car. It was living in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC?

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Speaking of AC for W126, here's a new video from Pierre H. ‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RT9rj7anTc&sns=em Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://m

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread MG via Mercedes
The 617 has a small tensioner nut that takes a 10mm socket to release or increase the tension on the belt. It moves the compressor toward or away from the engine after you have loosened the holding bolts. You can see it in the manual pdf 83-522 on page 18 as nut 3 on clamping screw 4. Check th

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Sounds like it. I was thinking about my diesel with the OM603. Piece of cake to swap a belt, takes all of a couple of minutes. -D > On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I bet you got the wrong belt. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:09 PM

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I bet you got the wrong belt. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:09 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > 300SD > > The belt may be short, but by very little. Came with the car. It was living > in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC? Same > Conti as the oth

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
300SD The belt may be short, but by very little. Came with the car. It was living in the trunk and the only missing belt was for AC, so … must be AC? Same Conti as the others. clay > On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > What car is this? You should not

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
OM617 I had to remove the PS belt and loosened up the compressor bolts enough to adjust position of the compressor. There are no tensioner releases I know of clay > On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Aren’t you using the belt tensioner release? > > -D > > >>

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What car is this? You should not have any trouble getting the belt on unless it is too short or you have a pulley somewhere that is too big Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 3:06 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Thank you for the offer. OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for ove

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Aren’t you using the belt tensioner release? -D > On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:06 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Thank you for the offer. OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for over > 4 hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry. I have the belt > that should fit (same as all o

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-05 Thread clay via Mercedes
Thank you for the offer. OE compressor and the system holds vacuum for over 4 hours and was sucked down for 90 minutes, so bone dry. I have the belt that should fit (same as all others up front) I just can not get the distance between spinners short enough to loop over the edge on the compress

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I can pull the pulley from my old compressor if you want it. Mine is a Nippondenso, not an R4. Lemme know so I can dig it out of the trash before Friday. -D > On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:11 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > I like this. Gives me hope I can make cold in my w126. > > The big troubl

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-05 Thread clay via Mercedes
I like this. Gives me hope I can make cold in my w126. The big trouble with Allen is getting the pulley on the compressor. It just does not want to get there. Polei is intact, just waiting for cfc clay > On Jul 3, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Picked up where I

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Can't see if that has 2 rows but if it says 4 pass I guess it does since each loop goes back and forth X2. It looks like the retrofit on my car was done right, there is a sticker there and everything, so maybe I can get by with just the compressor and flush, etc. though it was starting to leak

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is what I put in: http://www.klimakit.com/product/parallel-flow-condenser-upgrade-kit-w126/ If your condenser fittings are at the upper right corner looking at the car from the front, this fits. You can probably f

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That a boy, Max. My ability to fix stuff saves lots and allows me to justify spending money on cars…. -D > On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Speaking of which, I was marveling this a.m. about how I fixed our in-wall > microwave with a $10 fuse, thanks to Jim

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
SO I was looking at the condenser in the SD that the compressor munched on and it has 2 rows of tubes -- is that standard or like the one you put in? --FT On 7/4/17 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That’s the whole idea behind the parallel flow condenser in a (former) R12 system. T

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Speaking of which, I was marveling this a.m. about how I fixed our in-wall microwave with a $10 fuse, thanks to Jim's help and his sharing this website: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/micfaq.htm Which led me to this one, another gem: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tshoot.htm Replacement costs for a

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thank you, Rick. There’s nothing magical or unique about repairing cars or anything else, for that matter. It just takes time, initiative and tools. Plenty of far more skilled folks in this group than I. -D > On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Andrew sez: >

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Andrew sez: >World's shortest list: Problems Dan can 't >solve. Or Jaime, or Peter Frederick, or Jim, or We have more than several very intelligent, informed persons on this list, ready to share their knowledge and experience with a simple inquiry. Listening to said advice and implementing

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Because there is no “proper charge” in a conversion. The best way is to work off pressures and temperatures. If you look around you’ll see percentages of R12 to R134a running from 70%-95% suggested for converted systems. -D > On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wr

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Holy crap man, why didn't you just put in the proper charge at the get go and be done with it? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some observations after a drive this morning: > > 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures. Note that I only fi

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s the whole idea behind the parallel flow condenser in a (former) R12 system. The stock condenser is a single pass condenser and doesn’t have enough surface area for R134a to properly condense. The stock condenser has a very different internal design which is ineffective for R134a to cond

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
GOOD info! Dan Penoff via Mercedes July 4, 2017 at 9:02 AM Some observations after a drive this morning: 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures. Note that I only filled the system to about 60-70% initially. I’ll continue to sneak up on the refrigerant fill as I

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Do you think the new condenser is better suited to 134 than 12? --FT On 7/4/17 10:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Some observations after a drive this morning: 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures. Note that I only filled the system to about 60-70% initially. I’ll continue to sneak

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
World's shortest list: Problems Dan can 't solve. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Some observations after a drive this morning: > > 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures. Note that I only filled the > system to about 60-70% initially.

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Some observations after a drive this morning: 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures. Note that I only filled the system to about 60-70% initially. I’ll continue to sneak up on the refrigerant fill as I continue to drive and the ambients get higher - it will be in the 90s today, for sure. Wh

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago! Yeoman's work, as usual. Dan Penoff via Mercedes July 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Picked up where I left off on Saturday. Went to the hose place and got humiliated…. It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings with metal ferrules

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-03 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
ATTABOY! On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Picked up where I left off on Saturday. Went to the hose place and got > humiliated…. > > It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings > with metal ferrules crimped on

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Picked up where I left off on Saturday. Went to the hose place and got humiliated…. It never occurred to me that the hose fittings are simply barbed fittings with metal ferrules crimped on them. As a result of this, all that needed to be done to re-orient my hose was to put the fitting in a v

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sort of. Rebuilding the major hose assembly was half the cost of new. They could have rebuilt the others, but I don’t think it would have been as cost effective. New compressor cost me about $225 including an expansion valve and receiver/dryer. But I’ve got a hard stop now… Poop. Looks like

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
So hoses are as much as a new compressor, even using a local rebuild shop. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 1, 2017 4:42:42 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >New from receiver/dryer to expansion valve, expansion valve to fitting >on false firewall. Total was about

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
We need a parts list and instruction manual for this job. --FT On 7/1/17 4:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: New from receiver/dryer to expansion valve, expansion valve to fitting on false firewall. Total was about $170 new from Mercedes. Manifold that connects to the compressor has tw

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
New from receiver/dryer to expansion valve, expansion valve to fitting on false firewall. Total was about $170 new from Mercedes. Manifold that connects to the compressor has two hoses on it, had the whole thing rebuilt at Amazon Hose here in Tampa and it cost me $150. It goes from fitting on

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Hopefully you got some pics Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Parallel flow condenser is installed and radiator is back in. Gotta connect > up the hoses and it will be done. > > Aux fan arrangement is a little sketchy, but I think it wil

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Did you end up purchasing new AC hoses, or did you get one rebuilt? If rebuilt, what was the price? - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Parallel flow condenser is installed and radiator is back in. Gotta > con

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Parallel flow condenser is installed and radiator is back in. Gotta connect up the hoses and it will be done. Aux fan arrangement is a little sketchy, but I think it will work out OK as soon as I get some more fasteners for the fan shroud of the aux fans. After this, compressor swap! -D ___

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-07-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just got the fittings on the expansion valve tightened and the hoses routed through the false firewall and put all of that together. Whew! I won't put the interior back together until I've been able to test the system in the event I have issues with the expansion valve fittings, which I don't

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-06-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo! Thanks for the report! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 30, 2017 8:19:40 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >So I’m maybe another hour into the job and I’ve already replaced the >two hoses to the expansion valve and got the new expansion valve with >all new O r

Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-06-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So I’m maybe another hour into the job and I’ve already replaced the two hoses to the expansion valve and got the new expansion valve with all new O rings all the way around and the fittings snugged down finger tight. While it hasn’t been a fun job, it wasn’t nearly as bad I thought it might be.

[MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

2017-06-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm about 45 minutes in and already have the hose fittings removed from the expansion valve. Rather than continue on in this area, I'm going to start working on removing and replacing the two hoses to the expansion valve so I can have them in and ready to go with the new expansion valve. I dest