Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread Harry Watkins
> > defeats the > > > purpose of sustainability in my thought process. > > > > > > > > > Dave H... > > > __ > > > > > > From: "Kaleb C. Strip

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
> > > > > Dave H... > > __________ > > > > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > > To:

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread Harry Watkins
ustainability in my thought process. > > > Dave H... > __ > > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] doing your part &g

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread David Hemsley
... __ From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] doing your part Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:45:08 -0600 >Algae i

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
I wonder what percent of the nation's WVO is being converted to BioD. Is there any way to find out? On Nov 9, 2007 9:48 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I still say reusing (processing) spent restaurant cooking oil or fat > > is th

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread Allan Streib
"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I still say reusing (processing) spent restaurant cooking oil or fat > is the only truly environmentally responsible way to make bio > diesel. Not nearly enough, though, to be anything more than a "feel good" activity for a few individuals. Allan

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
ot;Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] doing your part > Right on. They are uprooting peat bogs to plant oil palms and in so > doing are warming the climate significantly, according to yesterday's > news item. > > I still s

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
Right on. They are uprooting peat bogs to plant oil palms and in so doing are warming the climate significantly, according to yesterday's news item. I still say reusing (processing) spent restaurant cooking oil or fat is the only truly environmentally responsible way to make bio diesel. On Nov

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-08 Thread ernest breakfield
while Palm Oil yields very high-energy BioD, it unfortunately makes for fuel with a very high cloud point. yes, Indonesia has been particularly irresponsible if their quest to profit off of the demand for the fuel; proof that any good thing can be screwed up by short-sighted greed. cheers!

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Palm oil is a very good feedstock for bio-d, a lot of the tropics are being converted to oil palm tree farms, cutting down forests and such. I have seen reports that it is particularly a problem in Indonesia. No free lunch (or fuel). --R Allan Streib wrote: > John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-08 Thread Allan Streib
John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How is buying biodiesel similar to ignoring the extra environmental cost > of batteries?? Is there some extra environmental cost of biodiesel? Well yes. Requires lye for the esterification, has byproducts of glycerin (which I guess is pretty harmless)

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-08 Thread ernest breakfield
"Very much like those who gladly pay a premium price for Biodiesel." huh? and where was your fuel grown? whose son was sent there to defend that supply? cheers! e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The Prius People don't care much about the unknown future issues of owning > them, since they

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-08 Thread John Robbins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Very much like those who gladly pay a premium price for Biodiesel. How is buying biodiesel similar to ignoring the extra environmental cost of batteries?? Is there some extra environmental cost of biodiesel? John ___ http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] doing your part

2007-11-08 Thread RELNGSON
<> The Prius People don't care much about the unknown future issues of owning them, since they are "doing their part" or at least appearing to do so. Very much like those who gladly pay a premium price for Biodiesel. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol