Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-03-01 Thread OK Don
Yes - it works great! Now I just need to fix a couple of odometers On 2/28/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of measuring things did you ever get that mileage spreadsheet to work? I've got another bunch of mileage I need to put in mine... -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
what spreadsheet? OK Don wrote: Yes - it works great! Now I just need to fix a couple of odometers On 2/28/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of measuring things did you ever get that mileage spreadsheet to work? I've got another bunch of mileage I need to put in

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-03-01 Thread OK Don
The one Curt odffered to the list many months ago. On 2/28/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what spreadsheet? OK Don wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh, hmm, missed that one I guess OK Don wrote: The one Curt odffered to the list many months ago. On 2/28/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what spreadsheet? OK Don wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-28 Thread OK Don
Another raised hand - I also use Larry's service. I've started having the oil analyzed in all our cars - and extending the drain interval. The last test on the 300SDL with a little over 10K on the oil returned a soot level of 0.6%. At that rate it seems like the oil could stay in there forever,

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-28 Thread Loren Faeth
E week is over Don! At 08:20 PM 2/27/2006, you wrote: You do have to factor in that I'm almost as adicted to measuring thangs as I am to Diesel fuel ---

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-28 Thread OK Don
Dang! On 2/27/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E week is over Don! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Speaking of measuring things did you ever get that mileage spreadsheet to work? I've got another bunch of mileage I need to put in mine... -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:20:36 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So we figured out that most 603's can go 15k miles on m1(or amsoil). What about older 617, 616, 615 etc? Ok, so what about gas cars like 103's, 117's etc? How long can they go. Same miles, more miles, less miles? I would think more miles since they are not going to

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread John Berryman
On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So we figured out that most 603's can go 15k miles on m1(or amsoil). What about older 617, 616, 615 etc? Ok, so what about gas cars like 103's, 117's etc? How long can they go. Same miles, more miles, less miles? I would think more

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I assume another aspect of longer oil changes is the filtration system? MB has a good setup, what about GM with the spin on filters? Is that setup agreeable with extended changes or not? John Berryman wrote: On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So we figured out that

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread OK Don
I don't konw that the filters do much to remove soot -- could I guess - so I'd have an analysis done to find out. On 2/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume another aspect of longer oil changes is the filtration system? MB has a good setup, what about GM with the spin on

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/26/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I change at 15,000, all mine are diesels (Except Cathy's Jeep) mostly 617.952s. 1 601, 1 602. You know that oil analysis is the only way to tell what's going on in your engine. Wait ... let me understand ... you drive 15K miles between oil

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed So we figured out that most 603's can go 15k miles on m1(or amsoil). What about older 617, 616, 615 etc? Ok, so what

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Dave M.
. :) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:44:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering I assume another aspect of longer oil changes is the filtration system? MB has a good setup, what about GM

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Marshall Booth
Dave M. wrote: Kaleb, Every engine is different, so if you want to do extended drains, you should at least do one or two oil analyses on the engine in question. Like Marshall said, the 61x engines may produce more soot, at least mine did. Johnny B's don't but he's probably the exception, lol.

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 09:15:09AM -0700, Dave M. wrote: If you're unsure of the filtration system, and/or the filter is teeny weeny, just change it every 5k or so and top up with some fresh M-1. For non-MB cars, I really like the KN oil filters: http://www.knfilters.com/oilfilter.htm

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Jim Cathey
A friend told me of centrifugal filters for big diesels. If the powerchoke didn't have 252k on it, I'd consider one for it. Those sound pretty appealing to me. I'd want two, though. One, modified, would be on top the roof of the car as an antipersonnel measure. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread John Berryman
On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Ed Booher wrote: Wait ... let me understand ... you drive 15K miles between oil changes, without problem or worry, and feel good about it? (Meaning, once you've verified an engine is in top shape and ready to roll in your fleet, you trust that it's good)

[MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread W. Lasher
I’m with Marshall on this one. I tested my new 603 engine 4 times and at 5000 miles I came up with 1.8% on the soot with M1 and the way I drive. Just as a point of reference, before I changed to M1 I was using Delo 400 and was changing at 2000 miles and in all those tests

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread John Berryman
On Feb 27, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Marshall Booth wrote: My OM60x engines running on Mobil/Delvac 1 tend to get noisy when soot levels approach 2%, but that's not sufficiently reliable to use as a change indicator. When the lifters get noisy, I often find the engine is due/overdue for an oil

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Curt Raymond
. I'm not too concerned, it does have 185kmi on it. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:42:02 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread John Berryman
On Feb 27, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: *Hand raised* our own Larry T sells oil analysis services. I've so far only tested my Dodge but will start testing the 190D when it hits 5,000 miles on this oil. Of course to do that I'll need to order some more test kits. At $55 for 3 I

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Curt Raymond
on your Mobil 1 change rate. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:28:45 -0800 From: W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering To: Mercedes List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread Marshall Booth
John Berryman wrote: On Feb 27, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Marshall Booth wrote: My OM60x engines running on Mobil/Delvac 1 tend to get noisy when soot levels approach 2%, but that's not sufficiently reliable to use as a change indicator. When the lifters get noisy, I often find the engine is

Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering

2006-02-27 Thread R A Bennell
So, I'm curious. What sort of a filter setup did you use to clean the solvent in the parts washer? I have one that gets to settle each winter. I should drain it in the spring and scoop out the grease that will have settled to the bottom. The thought of a filter however is interesting. Randy B