The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from
the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming). The US developed/used these
quality approaches for the massive WWII war production. The ironic part is
that US industry then blew off all these quality lessons after the war
when
"made in Japan" meant junk.
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>Not just good engineerin
>Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car
>makers didn't learn until well into the '90s.
>-Curt
Just about the time they also decided that they could ship it all to Mexico and
China and continue to make 'quality' products.
Richard
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I tried that. It will act like it wants to start then dies out again.
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On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
This thing has to be vapor locking.
Next time it dies, take off the fuel cap and put it back on.
Might have a pinched tank v
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> I think it is called good engineering.
>
> Although, Honda has the odd dud too.
Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something
American car makers didn't learn until well into the '90s.
I think it was on here somebody told a good anecdote where an
American car maker paired up with an Asian one and learned about
strict quality control...
-Curt
That is the
e: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:53:27 -0500
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I think it is called good engineering.
Although, H
'd find the good one meets closer
tolerances. Probably something like the timing ring or a valve stem is off by a
couple thou, not enough that you'd notice in casual inspection but enough to
kill cold starts.
-Curt
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I'd just get a Stihl. They just work.
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OK Don wrote:
Ah, it's an external spline on the adjusting screw! (Just saw Java's
post).
Well, how about drilling a hole in a piece of brass rod and driving it onto
the screw, thus making your own tool?
People have done that with brass tubing. It must drive on easily enough that you
don't be
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
No it's just a stub with splines on it down in a hole. Guy at the mower shop
said try one of them electrical butt plug things
Yes, I heard that before, don't know why I didn't remember it.
Mitch.
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Maybe even a piece of copper tubing that's a bit too small - force it on?
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> No it's just a stub with splines on it down in a hole. Guy at the mower
> shop said try one of them electrical butt plug things
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug
No it's just a stub with splines on it down in a hole. Guy at the mower shop
said try one of them electrical butt plug things
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On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:52 PM, OK Don wrote:
> So they aren't just Torx screw heads? Can you get to the head with a
> Dremel cut-off disk to cut a slo
Ah, it's an external spline on the adjusting screw! (Just saw Java's
post).
Well, how about drilling a hole in a piece of brass rod and driving it onto
the screw, thus making your own tool?
--
OK Don
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither li
OK Don wrote:
AMEN!
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Ok, what we need now is a diesel saw!
Randy
I believe they had a diesel saw for tank crews in WWII to cut their way through
the forests of Europe.
There's also the Comet, and Google indicates there may be some
WILTON wrote:
'My thought, too, re. the slot. Or did they "bury" it to prevent such?
On most saws it's shrouded so you can't grab it with pliers. Therefore you'd
have to slot the shroud to get in there to slot the screw heads.
Mitch.
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OK Don wrote:
So they aren't just Torx screw heads? Can you get to the head with a
Dremel cut-off disk to cut a slot in it?
I did that on a Ryobi before I bought the screwdriver. It worked, but I couldn't
keep the screwdriver in the slot with the engine running so it was more work
than usual
AMEN!
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>
> Ok, what we need now is a diesel saw!
>
> Randy
>
>
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OK Don
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can b
'My thought, too, re. the slot. Or did they "bury" it to prevent such?
Wilton
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So they
So they aren't just Torx screw heads? Can you get to the head with a
Dremel cut-off disk to cut a slot in it?
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up.
> Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more than I paid for my
> Ho
On 06/08/2013 5:09 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Dieselhead wrote:
Hang onta yer old saws and 240Ds! They will become more valuable in
the coming meltdown.
BTW, I did find the official Husky screwdriver, the one that was $12
at the dealer or $7.5 on the internet 3-4 years ago. Some joker listed
on
A bit of a different story as I am going to comment on 2 f4 stroke
clones of Honda engines.
One has been amazing. We have it on a wood splitter out at the lake.
The very first time I tried to start it, I had just bolted it on and
filled it with oil and gas.
I pulled the cord and it started on
Dieselhead wrote:
Hang onta yer old saws and 240Ds! They will become more valuable in the
coming meltdown.
BTW, I did find the official Husky screwdriver, the one that was $12 at the
dealer or $7.5 on the internet 3-4 years ago. Some joker listed one on Amazon
for $45. Searching elsewhere fo
I think it is called good engineering.
Although, Honda has the odd dud too. I just got off the phone with a
client who was telling me his uncle stopped by with a brand spanking new
Honda Accord. When his uncle tried to leave, the car would not start.
The starter whirrs but it does not turn ove
I'm still trying to figure out how Honda makes my lawn mower start on the first
pull every time.
Dan
On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> A bit of a different story as I am going to comment on 2 f4 stroke clones of
> Honda engines.
>
> One has been amazing. We have it on a wood
A bit of a different story as I am going to comment on 2 f4 stroke
clones of Honda engines.
One has been amazing. We have it on a wood splitter out at the lake.
The very first time I tried to start it, I had just bolted it on and
filled it with oil and gas.
I pulled the cord and it started on
I'd just get a Stihl. They just work.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> This thing has to be vapor locking. It starts when cold somewhat ok, it
> died a couple of times today and I got it started, the last time it acted
> like it was going to start and it would not. Let
EPA protecting us from adjusting for the gas they force us to use. Ain't
merka great?
--R
On 8/6/13 3:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So I was at the lawn mower parts store today to get a belt for my mower and
asked if they has those special adjustment screw drivers. EPA won't let then
sell
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So I was at the lawn mower parts store today to get a belt for my
mower and asked if they has those special adjustment screw drivers.
EPA won't let then sell them
Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up.
Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more th
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So I was at the lawn mower parts store today to get a belt for my mower and
asked if they has those special adjustment screw drivers. EPA won't let then
sell them
Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up.
Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more t
So I was at the lawn mower parts store today to get a belt for my mower and
asked if they has those special adjustment screw drivers. EPA won't let then
sell them
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On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:11 PM, OK Don wrote:
> An electric saw will cure that issue :-)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 20
On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:11 PM, "OK Don" wrote:
> An electric saw will cure that issue :-)
So would a Stihl.
Rick
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An electric saw will cure that issue :-)
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> I tried that. It will act like it wants to start then dies out again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >> This thing has
I tried that. It will act like it wants to start then dies out again.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> This thing has to be vapor locking.
>
> Next time it dies, take off the fuel cap and put it back on.
> Might have a pinched ta
: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:28:13 -0600
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:23:41 -0500 "Kaleb C. Stripl
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
This thing has to be vapor locking.
Next time it dies, take off the fuel cap and put it back on.
Might have a pinched tank vent hose.
Mitch.
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 18:23:41 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
wrote:
> I guess I need to either try to adjust the carb or try some 100% gas I
> don't know.
Get some 100% gas and then see if it needs adjusting. If it does, adjust
it! :-)
Craig
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