Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-30 Thread Gareth Randall
Yeah, I noticed that one of their "top 100" users has an average work unit time of less than 30 minutes. Compare that to the ~22 hours I'm getting for a PII 450Mhz, and the SGI team's average of over 6 hours even though they're running on just about the most powerful (and sadly, most expensive a

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-30 Thread Richard Woods
Let's not be _too_ eager to emulate SETI@home's popularity and user-friendliness -- http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/security/story/0,224985,20269509,00 .htm "Cheats wreak havoc on SETI@home: participants" "SETI@home administrators are allegedly ignoring claims that the project is being sabo

RE: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Aaron Blosser
> We could set a contest, where people should give answers in the spirit > of this answer by Spike, to the question: "What is the use of large > primes?" My entry: To piss off phone companies. :-D Do I win? _ Unsubscribe &

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread spike66
Daidalos wrote: Great! great!! We could set a contest, where people should give answers in the spirit of this answer by Spike, to the question: "What is the use of large primes?" Are we allowed more than one entry? spike ___

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Jason Papadopoulos
At 05:22 PM 10/23/02 -0400, C. Garrison wrote: > I look at GIMPS' finding of large primes as an avenue of advancing the > concept of a Unified Theory for Mathematics - much like that which you > hear about in Physics. Should everything that one does in life have to have a noble higher purpose?

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Daidalos
Great! great!! We could set a contest, where people should give answers in the spirit of this answer by Spike, to the question: "What is the use of large primes?" Best answers will win the 'Prize of the Great Expert Primus', or something, etc. I am usually quoting with care, but this time I'll c

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Ross Schiff
Has anyone looked into getting GIMPS into a major Linux distribution? Maybe the program call be relegated into a hardware benchmark/burn-in category.  

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread gann
mainstream users can watch pretty colors. - Original Message - From: Brian J. Beesley To: Aaron Blosser Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: Dissed again On Tuesday 22 October 2002 16:31, you wrote: And we tend

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread ModularTao
In a message dated 10/23/2002 3:05:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'Volunteer' goes without saying.  Certainly we need a marketing effort. Does anyone have any ideas? What about a campaign directed at schools?   Alex

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread C. Garrison
e problem,  the larger problem becomes easier.  That's the way I think of GIMPS.   aka DigitalConcepts www.teamprimerib.com   - Original Message - From: Del S. Brand To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread E. Weddington
On 23 Oct 2002 at 19:42, Daran wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "E. Weddington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:09 PM > Subject: Mersenne: Dissed again > > > Folding@Home's succes

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Tuesday 22 October 2002 16:31, you wrote: > Yeah, well, we don't have a super cool Trojan horse program that can > update itself (and crash machines) like these other ones, and we're not > out there looking for ET or saving cancer boy or anything... just a > bunch of geeks looking for big number

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: "E. Weddington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Mersenne: Dissed again > Folding@Home's success: > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021022070813.htm > &g

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: "E. Weddington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: Dissed again > On 22 Oct 2002 at 14:40, Jeff Woods wrote: > > Either they were really great activists

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Herman De Wael
Well... spike66 wrote: Del S. Brand wrote: I always get asked what is the purpose or use for such large prime numbers. Since I'm not a math geek, I don't know what to tell them. Any ideas? D.Brand Del S. Brand wrote: I always get asked what is the purpose or use for such large prime

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Jeff Woods
At 11:35 AM 10/23/02 -0400, you wrote: Crunching for distributed computing projects can be thrilling. Watching the number of work units you put out per day can make you excited about your throughput. The work pours in quickly and the results leave even faster. I want a computer JUST LIKE THAT.

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Justin Valcourt
Here is something I intend to put up on the web shortly to address the problem of "why gimps?" Please feel free to use, plagerize, or rewrite this in the hopes that it brings in at least one new member to the project. Why donate your computer cycles to GIMPS? I could give you technical reasons

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread spike66
Del S. Brand wrote: I always get asked what is the purpose or use for such large prime numbers. Since I'm not a math geek, I don't know what to tell them. Any ideas? D.Brand Del S. Brand wrote: I always get asked what is the purpose or use for such large prime numbers. Since I'm not a ma

RE: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Paul Leyland
> The reason that this answe ris somewhat of a lie is that the > prime numbers > used in cryptography are usually NOT the "largest prime > numbers in the > world" at the time, nor too close to it. (It'd be easy to > crack such keys > if they were limited to the 1000 largest primes -- then

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread Jeff Woods
At 12:14 AM 10/23/02 -0700, you wrote: I always get asked what is the purpose or use for such large prime numbers. Since I'm not a math geek, I don't know what to tell them. The stock answer is usually somewhat of a lie. Huge prime numbers are useful in cryptography and and encryption, and hel

Re[2]: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-23 Thread mersenne
hi, Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 8:40:08 PM, "Jeff Woods" wrote: > Either they were really great activists in signing people up, or GIMPS has > SOMETHING about it that won't get people to participate. We either need > to step up our profile, be more active at recruiting, or do SOMETHING to > ge

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread Del S. Brand
I always get asked what is the purpose or use for such large prime numbers. Since I'm not a math geek, I don't know what to tell them.   Any ideas?   D.Brand

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread Halliday, Ian
Sorry, guys, but the problem is well known and well discussed here and it is this: looking for extra-terrestrial life is "sexy" searching for cures to diseases is "sexy" looking for enormous primes is "geeky" These are not my views, but the ones held by the public at large. So I fear that GIMPS wi

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread gann
Well, you're going to love this [links below]. The Google Toolbar has a new icon today stating that it had updated itself. Reading further shows that one of the updates is the ability for Google Toolbar users to automatically run the Folding@Home distributed computing effort. I am guessing ther

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread Gareth Randall
This amazing number of participants may be misleading. For instance, I've been running a SETI@home client ... (okay, okay, it's because SETI supports uncommon platforms) and was quite amazed, when I returned my first completed workunit, to find that I was now ahead of over 30% of their users. A

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread E. Weddington
On 22 Oct 2002 at 14:40, Jeff Woods wrote: > At 09:09 AM 10/22/02 -0600, you wrote: > > >Folding@Home's success: > >http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021022070813.htm > > > >Again, they mention SETI@home. As if that were the only other > >distributed project out there. *sigh* > > Two

Re: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread Jeff Woods
At 09:09 AM 10/22/02 -0600, you wrote: Folding@Home's success: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021022070813.htm Again, they mention SETI@home. As if that were the only other distributed project out there. *sigh* Two years ago, Pande launched Folding@home – a distributed computing

RE: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread Jeroen
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:mersenne-invalid- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of E. Weddington >> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:09 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Mersenne: Dissed again >> >> >> Folding@Home's success: >>

RE: Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread Aaron Blosser
; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mersenne-invalid- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of E. Weddington > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Mersenne: Dissed again > > > Folding@Home's success: > http:/

Mersenne: Dissed again

2002-10-22 Thread E. Weddington
Folding@Home's success: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021022070813.htm Again, they mention SETI@home. As if that were the only other distributed project out there. *sigh* Eric Weddington _ Unsubscribe & list