Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-11 Thread George Woltman
At 07:47 AM 3/11/2003 -0500, Richard Woods wrote: However, any difference in FFT size between a P4 and other CPU, because of SSE support/nonsupport, could make a difference to the algorithm because it _does_ take FFT size into account. There was a bug in calculating the the FFT size (bytes of memor

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Woods
Nick Glover wrote: > Maybe the P-1 bounds calculation accounts for the slightly slower > than normal iteration time that 8907359 would have on a P4 because > of the roundoff checking (since it is very close to the P4 512K > FFT limit). I doubt it. As I explained last July 17 (Mersenne Digest #981

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-10 Thread George Woltman
At 01:16 AM 3/11/2003 +, Daran wrote: I don't think George's '1 or 2 extra temporaries' theory stands up. Sure it does. I fired up the debugger and the P4 has 5541 temporaries and the x86 has 89 temporaries. Hmmm, maybe I'd better look into it a little bit further --- Checked by AVG anti

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-10 Thread Daran
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:05:41PM +, Brian J. Beesley wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 07:49, Daran wrote: > I just tried Test=8907359,64,0 on two systems - an Athlon XP 1700+ and a > P4-2533, both running mprime v23.2 with 384 MB memory configured (out of 512 > MB total in the system). Th

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-10 Thread Chris Marble
Daran wrote: > > I'd appreciate it if you > or someone else could try starting a P-1 on the same exponent (not in one of > the ranges where it would get a different FFT length) on two different > machines, with the same memory allowed. P4: M8769809 completed P-1, B1=45000, B2=72, E=12, WY2: E

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Glover
At 13:05:41, Monday, 3/10/03, Brian J. Beesley wrote: > I just tried Test=8907359,64,0 on two systems - an Athlon XP 1700+ and a > P4-2533, both running mprime v23.2 with 384 MB memory configured (out of 512 > MB total in the system). These were fresh installations, I did nothing apart > from add

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-10 Thread George Woltman
At 09:05 PM 3/10/2003 +, Brian J. Beesley wrote: On Monday 10 March 2003 07:49, Daran wrote: > Or is there some > reason I can't think of, why higher values might be appropriate for a P4? George? The Athlon system picked B1=105000, B2=1995000 whilst the P4 picked B1=105000, B2=2126250. So it s

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-10 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Monday 10 March 2003 07:49, Daran wrote: > > B1 and B2 are supposed to be chosen by the client so that the cost/benefit > ratio is optimal. Does this mean that P4s is choose B2 values which are > too high? Or does everything else choose values too low? Or is there some > reason I can't think

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-09 Thread Daran
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:51:33PM -0800, Chris Marble wrote: > Daran wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:12:31PM -0800, Chris Marble wrote: > > > > > Daran wrote: > I like my stats but I could certainly devote 1 machine out of 20 to this. If you're going to use one machine to feed the o

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-07 Thread Chris Marble
Daran wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:12:31PM -0800, Chris Marble wrote: > > > Daran wrote: > > > > > > Whichever machine you choose for P-1, always give it absolutely as much > > > memory as you can without thrashing. There is an upper limit to how much it > > > will use, but this is pro

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-07 Thread Daran
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:23:59PM +, Brian J. Beesley wrote: > On Thursday 06 March 2003 13:03, Daran wrote: > > However, some time ago, I was given some information on the actual P-1 > > bounds chosen for exponents of various sizes, running on systems of various > > processor/memory configu

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-07 Thread Daran
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:12:31PM -0800, Chris Marble wrote: > Daran wrote: > > > > Whichever machine you choose for P-1, always give it absolutely as much > > memory as you can without thrashing. There is an upper limit to how much it > > will use, but this is probably in the gigabytes for exp

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-06 Thread Chris Marble
Daran wrote: > > Whichever machine you choose for P-1, always give it absolutely as much > memory as you can without thrashing. There is an upper limit to how much it > will use, but this is probably in the gigabytes for exponents in even the > current DC range. So I should use the PIII with 1 3

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-06 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Thursday 06 March 2003 13:03, Daran wrote: > > Based upon what I know of the algorithms involved, it *ought* to be the > case that you should do any P-1 work on the machine which can give it the > most memory, irrespective of processor type. ... assuming the OS allows a single process to grab t

Re: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-06 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: "Chris Marble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:00 PM Subject: Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4? > I've got a couple of P4s that I can use on weekends. I've been using them > to f

Mersenne: P-1 on PIII or P4?

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Marble
I've got a couple of P4s that I can use on weekends. I've been using them to finish off exponents that my PIIIs were working on. Is that the right order? P-1 on the PIII and then the rest on the P4. I want to maximize my output. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - HMC UNIX Systems Manager My opinions a