Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Dominique
> Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is > bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses works fine there on both Linux and > Jaguar ? I tried Opera, but was not satisfied with a thing that seemed to me as a crude unfinished port ;-> Really -- I am pleased with the functionalities o

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2002-12-19 Thread FMoyer
Can anyone explain the following: Using Mac OS9: If you copy some text in a Metacard stack and while Metacard is still running, go into another application and paste, the text pastes. But if you copy some text in a Metacard stack, quit Metacard, then go into another application and pa

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Ken Ray
LOL! That's beautiful... something I think I'll post in my office! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Ray G. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:08

Re:Subject: Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Claude Lemmel
> Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:17:01 -1000 > Subject: Web-Dedicated Metacard > From: Sannyasin Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I changed the thread on this because I am also following the > > MC-->PostGreSQL closely in its own r

Re: xCards versus HTML

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Robert and y'all, > Hmm, you seem to forget one little detail. MC > is not a stagnant environment and evolves as well, > creating compatibility issues of its own as new > versions are coming out. A double-edged sword indeed. On the one hand, we want development in order to improve what we

Re: HTML versus xCards

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Ray and y'all, > Yo troops, Nice of you to join in! ;-) > With all this talk about the pleasures of > working with HTML, I just couldn't resist > sending this along... > HOW TO BUILD A WEB PAGE IN 25 STEPS... Hilarious but true! ;-) Playing devil's advocate for a moment, it could be ar

Re: xCards versus HTML

2002-12-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
Backward compatibility is more viable (sustainable) with stacks than with HTML pages. A stack is equivalent to a complete site, yet far more flexible than the dozens or hundreds of corresponding web pages. A stack can/will be scripted to re-purpose the existing content, casting the content in sever

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
andu wrote: > > --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:42:11 -0800 Scott Rossi > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IMO, HTML has evolved; look at all the spinoffs: DHTML, XML, SMIL, etc. > > The bigger problem is (lack of) standards. > > You just mentioned a few, the even bigger problem seems to be

xCards versus HTML

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
> If we talk about public web sites the goal > should be "absolute accessibility everywhere". I think we can all agree on this fundamental goal. But making a player available freely and providing content which is not html-ized does not contravene this crucial principle. You cannot create xCard co

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Ray G. Miller
Yo troops, With all this talk about the pleasures of working with HTML, I just couldn't resist sending this along... -- HOW TO BUILD A WEB PAGE IN 25 STEPS 1. Download a piece of Web authoring software ~ 20 minutes. 2. Think about what you want to write on your Web page ~ 6 wee

Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: > I changed the thread on this because I am also following the > > MC-->PostGreSQL closely in its own right... > > OK, so agreed, we can use Metacard to provide content over the web. > I am doing it already in a very small way... but let's we discuss this > in a l

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 22:36:42 + jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pierre & Andu , andu a écrit : > > When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged when they > work... I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can > do with plain html. Allo Andu,

Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks & Comments

2002-12-19 Thread Ken Ray
Thanks for checking... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "jbv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks & Comments

Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
> So, what kinds of strategies can anyone suggest to > take this beyond the "consensus reality" barrier? Start with the unparalleled interactivity & performance of REAL software like MetaCard, versus mere web-browser based access to HTML + JavaScript. For example: once the web page is rendered, ca

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread jbv
Pierre & Andu , > andu a écrit : > > > > > When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged when they work... > > I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with > > plain html. > > Allo Andu, > > I agree with you. Most browser-side problems are happening in pars

Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks & Comments

2002-12-19 Thread jbv
Ken, Sorry for being so late on this topic, but last week has been sort of hectic... Anyway, thanks a lot for your suggestion. I found the time to test it today : it works great but, like the other script submitted by Jacqueline, it becomes rather slow when the amount of data gets large... Bes

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:42:11 -0800 Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO, HTML has evolved; look at all the spinoffs: DHTML, XML, SMIL, etc. The bigger problem is (lack of) standards. You just mentioned a few, the even bigger problem seems to be sticking to just one ;-).

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, "andu" wrote: > If we talk about public web sites the goal should be "absolute > accessibility everywhere". This is of course a worthy goal, but it's pretty daunting when you run up against lack of standards and inconsistent feature support in browsers. I can't even begin to imagine th

Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
I changed the thread on this because I am also following the MC-->PostGreSQL closely in its own right... OK, so agreed, we can use Metacard to provide content over the web. I am doing it already in a very small way... but let's we discuss this in a larger context (we got 1.7 million visitors on

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 08:54:59 -0800 Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Recently, andu wrote: I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with plain html. Speaking for myself, Javascript allows me to script interactivity that is not possible with straigh

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 16:49:34 +0100 Pierre Sahores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: andu a écrit : --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 15:00:53 +0100 Pierre Sahores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is > bugged) or, else Mozilla, w

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, andu wrote: > I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with > plain html. Speaking for myself, Javascript allows me to script interactivity that is not possible with straight HTML: functions, variables, image management, etc. The biggest issue to deal with is c

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
andu a écrit : > > --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 15:00:53 +0100 Pierre Sahores > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is > > bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses works fine there on both Linux and > > Jaguar ? > > When it comes to browser

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 15:00:53 +0100 Pierre Sahores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses works fine there on both Linux and Jaguar ? When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged w

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dominique a écrit : > > > Are you speaking from the "indexes page" form submit javascript ? It works > > ok under Netscape 4.7, different issues of Explorer, Mozilla 1.3 and Opera > > 5 under Linux, Jaguar, Win98 and Win2K. It's a javascript 1.5 specs code. > > In the iCab prefs ("inScript") all

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Dominique
> Are you speaking from the "indexes page" form submit javascript ? It works > ok under Netscape 4.7, different issues of Explorer, Mozilla 1.3 and Opera > 5 under Linux, Jaguar, Win98 and Win2K. It's a javascript 1.5 specs code. In the iCab prefs ("inScript") all the specs are checked, from 1.0 t

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
Alain Farmer a écrit : > > Hello, > > Excuse me for budding in but ... YEAH! > > > How can MC replace an HTML Web form? > > Use MetaCard's widgets instead of the poor unreliable > ones that we have to use when using HTML to create the > form and JavaScript to make it interactive. Instead of > t

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami a écrit : > > mmm interesting > > "replace the standard web forms in most of the next production apps" > > how can MC replace an HTML Web form? do you mean you will distribute MC > stacks and the user won't go through a browser? Exactly ! In using MC 2.4.3/libURL 1.0.

Re: mollases mode

2002-12-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
I had a similar problem on windows. I had an application which had to run 24/7 and which would slow down after a couple of days. I was storing all communication in and out in a field which was supposed to be truncated to 200 lines but, the truncation code didn't work right. This meant that the