Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-22 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 2:33 PM -0700 7/21/2004, Richard Gaskin wrote: Run this test in the message box: 1. put the width of the templateGraphic -- return 128 2. set the width of the templateGraphic to 500 3. put the width of the templateGraphic -- return 500 Because any property changes are persistent throughout

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-22 Thread Kevin Miller
On 20/7/04 10:55 pm, "Wouter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then in other words, RR itself is going down this slippery slope > (looking at the script in the revmenubar and other rev stacks :-) > Or the slope is not that slippery. I think this is a valid concern. Its important that we make the IDE

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, "Richard Gaskin" wrote: >>> < The properties of the templateGraphic are reset to their defaults >>> when all running handlers finish executing. > >>> >>> which is obviously not the case (and I should have checked this). >> >> >> No, the docs are correct on this point. > > Run this t

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: At 8:37 PM +0200 7/21/2004, Wouter wrote: But then there is an inconsistency in the transcript library where is stated: < The properties of the templateGraphic are reset to their defaults when all running handlers finish executing. > which is obviously not the case (a

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 8:37 PM +0200 7/21/2004, Wouter wrote: But then there is an inconsistency in the transcript library where is stated: < The properties of the templateGraphic are reset to their defaults when all running handlers finish executing. > which is obviously not the case (and I should have checked this

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: Remember that long before your scripts become active the Rev IDE does its initialization. While I haven't read the code for Rev's boot sequence the evidence suggests that their IDE alters some properties of the template graphic so that by the time your script comes into play the

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Wouter
Re: alwaysBuffer not set... •From: Richard Gaskin • Subject: Re: alwaysBuffer not set... • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:16:19 -0700 -- snip Remember that long before your scripts become active the Rev IDE does its initialization. While I haven't

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 6:39 PM +0200 7/21/2004, Wouter wrote: I agree that they are handled or used by the engine. But the question still remains: where are those default template objects physically (it's data) stored? In the binary of the engine or in the binary of one or more stacks? Template objects are never store

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: Template objects are never stored per se; they live only in memory. The property settings which define them are, in my understanding, hard-wired into the code of the engine, and not in any stack file. This is exactly the puzzling part. If they are hardwired in the code of the engine

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Wouter
On 21 Jul 2004, at 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:37:17 -0700 From: Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: alwaysBuffer not set... To: Discussions on Metacard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: The engine has no "face" of its own; that is, it has no windows or other visible UI components of its own. It has only the Transcript interpreter and a handful of data resources the interpeter needs (such as the list of color names, month names, etc.). Any visible element, such as a

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-21 Thread Wouter
Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jul 20 19:55:43 EDT 2004 * Previous message: alwaysBuffer not set... * Next message: alwaysBuffer not set... * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Alain Farmer wrote: > Wouter wrote: >> I look at MC

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Richard et al... I agree with Richard, in fact, his often well-thought expression of MetaCard's strict compliance to the vanilla is the primary reason why I'm 'attempting' to switch to MC (I'm sure a first, going back to MC from one who has started with RR:-) I believe the alwaysBuffer shoul

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alain Farmer wrote: Wouter wrote: I look at MC and RR as stacks interacting with an engine ... but the impression is growing that what is called the engine, is something composed of stacks and the engine. Where are the borders between the IDE, stacks and the engine? Very *VERY* good point, Wouter.

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Alain Farmer
--- Wouter > I look at MC and RR as stacks interacting with > an engine ... but the impression is growing that > what is called the engine, is something composed > of stacks and the engine. Where are the borders > between the IDE, stacks and the engine? Very *VERY* good point, Wouter. Where is

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Wouter
alwaysBuffer not set... Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jul 20 16:13:47 EDT 2004 * Previous message: alwaysBuffer not set... * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Wouter wrote: --big snip > If this is at engine level then the engine itself

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: Re-reading Chipp's post more carefully, he's referring only to IDE stacks, and yes, the IDE stacks should have their alwaysBuffer set to true. Can anyone think of a reason not to? Unless someone tells me not to I'm inclined to do it for the next release. As for doing that for all new

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Wouter
alwaysBuffer not set... Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jul 20 14:46:17 EDT 2004 -- snip Re-reading Chipp's post more carefully, he's referring only to IDE stacks, and yes, the IDE stacks should have their alwaysBuffer set to true. Can anyone think of a reason not t

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: > I noticed in the latest DL of MetaCard, the alwaysBuffer of most IDE > stacks is not set. While this was not necessary in previous versions of > the engine, it is now used to disable the 'flashing' effect around > windowsXP look and feel. > > I recommend setting the alwaysBuffer of

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Wouter
alwaysBuffer not set... Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com Tue Jul 20 12:27:24 EDT 2004 * Previous message: alwaysBuffer not set... * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Chipp Walters wrote: > I noticed in the latest DL of MetaCard, the alwaysBuffer

Re: alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: I noticed in the latest DL of MetaCard, the alwaysBuffer of most IDE stacks is not set. While this was not necessary in previous versions of the engine, it is now used to disable the 'flashing' effect around windowsXP look and feel. I recommend setting the alwaysBuffer of a

alwaysBuffer not set...

2004-07-20 Thread Chipp Walters
I noticed in the latest DL of MetaCard, the alwaysBuffer of most IDE stacks is not set. While this was not necessary in previous versions of the engine, it is now used to disable the 'flashing' effect around windowsXP look and feel. I recommend setting the alwaysBuffer of all IDE stacks to true