[meteorite-list] Ok, all Cali meteorite pages are up.

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
After about 18 hours of work, all pages are up and running. Tomorrow I will make corrections, and post links to all of the newspaper articles regarding the meteorite fall. There are a lot of them, but all in Spanish. I don't know why the english news never picked up on this one. Notkin? You busy oh

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Chris Peterson
Such calculations are useful to a first approximation, but there's no really accurate way to know what the temperature of the parent body was. It depends on the spin rate, the albedo, and other things that normally are not known with any certainty. The bottom line is that the interior temperat

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite pages up, only 2 to go. Many photos, maps etc.

2007-07-28 Thread Robert Woolard
Mike, Fantastic job of documentation you did on the pieces! The best I can ever remember seeing on the list. Thanks for posting the photos for us all. Robert --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/CALIcolombiafall.htm > > http://meteoriteguy.com/c

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Elton, List, But "too hot to COMFORTABLY hold" is not very hot compared to the ablative temperature of a minimum of 3000 C (for slow entry) to 5000, or even 8000 C. for fast. An iron going from 100,000 meters down to 10,000 meters, starting at 25,000 m/sec to slow to 100 m/sec is "averagi

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Mr EMan
If memory serves--One on the Martian stones was analyzed for its magnetic orientation and the reset of its magnetic field post fall and was found to never have reached 140°F deeper than 3-5 mm, indicating very little heat transfer to the interior and only a shallow intrusion. During the ablation p

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Alexander Seidel
Thanks a bunch, Sterling, hi "Mexico Doug", where art thou So it is no surprise an OC can be pretty cold at the touch upon arrival on earth, as was experienced in Cali/Colombia - qed... Best from early morning Berlin, Alex Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:06:1

[meteorite-list] Juvinas Eucrite Micrographs are posted!

2007-07-28 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Juvinas Libonnes, Entraigues, Ardeche, France. Stone: Achondrite, Ca-rich, Eucrite. Fell: 1821, June 15, 1500 hours. Total known weight: 91 kg. Hi list, Paul has just posted 4 batches of Juvinas micrographs to my Gallery on Meteorite Times. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ You r

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Mr EMan
One of the New England falls( Weston CT?) was reported to have formed a frost rind. Elton --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many other meteorites have been reported to be > very cold? I know that Hvittis and St Michel if I > recall were said to have frost on them almost > immedia

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Dear Alex, Mike, List, Alex said: > several posts about this on the list in the past... Mexico Doug has done more work on this than anyone else I can think of. Go to the website http://www.diogenite.com/ and click on the item "Meteoroid" in the left-hand menu. There is Doug's graph of the

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Cali#002 "HAMMERSTONE" fragment on ebay right now.

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Based on what I can see, and a UofA scientist already saw one of my pieces, I am pretty sure it is a type 3, more likely H since the chondrules are mostly quite small. It has lots of metal, and slickensides and no matrix, virtually all chondrules and sulfides. Still, I suppose it could be an L3. W

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Cali#002 "HAMMERSTONE" fragment on ebay right now.

2007-07-28 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 7/28/2007 8:22:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey everyone, Robert Ward just called me and he just listed the largest of his fragments of Cali #002 on ebay. Started at one cent, ends in 3 days, bid away! This is the LARGEST piece that is up for sal

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
I would certainly think that the interior of a large body would be ~ -400 degrees right, and mostly should not heat up during flight. I never understand why some come down so cold, and others are reported to be very hot. Mike --- Alexander Seidel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike, your comment w

[meteorite-list] AD: Cali#002 "HAMMERSTONE" fragment on ebay right now.

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Hey everyone, Robert Ward just called me and he just listed the largest of his fragments of Cali #002 on ebay. Started at one cent, ends in 3 days, bid away! This is the LARGEST piece that is up for sale, 1.4 gram, with very nice fusion crust. It will come with a piece of the rooftop from the Cali

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Alexander Seidel
Mike, your comment was obviously triggered by my earlier post to the list this day. I always thought stones of a meteorite fall would be rather "cold" after touchdown. Then again one has to look at typical equilibrium temps for a tumbling stone meteoroid at a typical Earth orbit cruising distanc

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread PolandMET
Ok, here is a good starting discussion topic for this meteorite fall. We had people in two of the four homes hit who picked up the meteorites within seconds of the impact. Cali#003 and Cali#004. Both people said that the pieces were very cold, so cold they quickly put them down. These people live

[meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Ok, here is a good starting discussion topic for this meteorite fall. We had people in two of the four homes hit who picked up the meteorites within seconds of the impact. Cali#003 and Cali#004. Both people said that the pieces were very cold, so cold they quickly put them down. These people live

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Calendar Updated!

2007-07-28 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
Dear meteorite friends, I finally updated the Calendar page, sorry for the delay! http://www.spacerocksinc.com/RSPOD_2007.html Also here is tomorrows picture of the day already posted: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/July_29_2007.html Thanks to all who have contributed!

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite pages up, only 2 to go. Many photos, maps etc.

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Some kilometers between. But the area is absolutely dense popluation, no open ground that we did not search. Nothing but homes and shops. mike --- Mike Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mike I am just learning from your information, > what is the distance > between pieces? It looks to be quit

[meteorite-list] Cali meteorite pages up, only 2 to go. Many photos, maps etc.

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/CALIcolombiafall.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/cali001.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/cali002.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/cali004.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/cali007.htm This is the stuff my dreams are made of. Hammerstones galor

[meteorite-list] Chat Room Anyone?

2007-07-28 Thread Dave Carothers
List, Anyone up for a chat on Mark Bostick`s chatroom? http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html Regards, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Rare HED`s for sale on eBay

2007-07-28 Thread drtanuki
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[meteorite-list] Ad: Rare HED`s for sale on eBay

2007-07-28 Thread Dave Schultz
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[meteorite-list] Apollo LRL Slab Saw

2007-07-28 Thread Mike Bandli
I scanned this photo from a group of seldom-seen LRL photos: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/877141/lrl-slab-saw.jpg It is an Apollo 12 sample being slabbed. I thought the vise set-up was pretty cool. Would love to have this vise system employed here at home :) Kind regards,   Mike Bandl

Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious chunks of ice pelt Iowa town

2007-07-28 Thread Jerry
HA! HA! you're right there Adam! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Adam" Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious chunks of ice pelt Iowa town I think the organic material (corn kernel clasts in spent

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - PolandMET new material and Thin Sections

2007-07-28 Thread Alexander Seidel
> I have also several new thin sections to offer. I can also make thin > sections on request from material I sell. Just let me know. > Big rarity here will be for sure D'Orbigny thin sections. Regarding thin sections, quality here counts even much much more than with the usual meteorite hardware

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali links, and sales information

2007-07-28 Thread Alexander Seidel
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/califall/cali004.htm Now this seems to answer an older question, of whether "they" are rather cold or hot to the touch immediately after arrival on ground zero. This is empirical with this fall, and may not be a general answer to the old question, but anyway... :-)

[meteorite-list] AD - PolandMET new material and Thin Sections

2007-07-28 Thread PolandMET
Hello List I finaly received some new classifications . NWA 4834 [EUC] - New eucrite, with small TKW, but its beautifull with black, shiny crust all over the edge. . NWA 4835 [WIN] - Rare primitive winonaite with relict chondrules. This one is paired with well known NWA 725, very fresh material.

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite preliminary first page up!

2007-07-28 Thread Mark Hodges
Wow!!! Thanks for all the info and now the photos of your trip into very dangerous territory. Looking forward to hearing more and seeing more pics of your adventure. Mark Hodges Michael Farmer wrote: http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/CALIcolombiafall.htm Ok, I have been working all day on pho

[meteorite-list] AD: new webpage

2007-07-28 Thread Moritz Karl
Hi List, I am finished building my webpage from the design point of view. The page is already online. You can find it at: http://www.m3t3orites.com I have just started to add pieces to the page. There are just 10 pieces added to the page so far. I will be adding more tomorrow and in the next wee

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali links, and sales information

2007-07-28 Thread Alexander Seidel
I wrote: > "Small is better than nothing", and taking the chances and facing the > challenges is better than staying at home, right? You wrote: -- > Alex, indeed it is better to try than to not. This comes down to almost philosophical considerations, e.g. with such apparentl

Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious chunks of ice pelt Iowa town

2007-07-28 Thread Adam Hupe
I think the organic material (corn kernel clasts in spent brown fuel rods) embedded in the ice are a pretty good indication to where the ice chunks originated. Notice in the image how far away the homeowner is keeping the ice chunk that damaged the house away from her nose, PU! All the Best, Ada

Re: [meteorite-list] Amazing daylight fireball

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Ok, all of those fireball videos are fakes, the last ones on that news report were all made by a guy in Spain and can be seen on YouTube. He has videos of fireballs falling in Seville, Madrid, Leon, and Valencia. The first one that the news opens with is the one we discussed yesterday, a rocket or

Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious chunks of ice pelt Iowa town

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Jerry, it is fascinating, but we have talked it for years. I dont know why a lab does not call them, acquire the chunks of ice, and anylize them. It should not be that difficult. One thing is clear, someone will be killed by one of these things if they keep smashing cars and homes. Michael Farmer -

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali links, and sales information

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Alex, indeed it is better to try than to not. I am most pleased of course with the stones I brought home. We have people down there working for us, trying to locate more, but other than stones possibly found in the streets by locals, I don't see much more coming. The sugarcane photos need no furthe

[meteorite-list] TEKTITE SCULPTURE Anda, V-grooves and U-grooves

2007-07-28 Thread Aubrey Whymark
Hi I know this may be nothing new to folk who have been collecting tektites many years, but it is something that has fascinated me recently and may be of interest to some collectors. I have recently updated my website dedicated to tektites. It is an ongoing process as ideas and opini

Re: [meteorite-list] lunar meteorites from the farside

2007-07-28 Thread Jerry
Randy, thank you very much for taking the time to provide your detailed analysis of the evidence at hand. You,ve provided me and all who read your email with substantial evidence to convince us that your conclusions are based on a myriad of experimental data. Jerry Flaherty - Original Mess

Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious chunks of ice pelt Iowa town

2007-07-28 Thread Jerry
Doesn't anyone want to address the origins of these and all the other instances reported on the List over the years? Or are we all convinced they're from errant jetliners poopers? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Mike Groetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Fr

Re: [meteorite-list] Amazing daylight fireball

2007-07-28 Thread Jerry
Amazing photos, thanks Giovanni. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "giovannisostero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite-list" Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Amazing daylight fireball Hi all, on 2007, July 25, 12h 07m local time (almost noon) a b

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali links, and sales information

2007-07-28 Thread Alexander Seidel
Thanks Mike, for all the documentation. Glad to hear you and your companion made it home safely. Too bad most of this fall is obviously lost to the sugarcane fields and dumps out there, but then again part of those 297 g will be good for science and the delight of a few collectors. "Small is bette

Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 2749

2007-07-28 Thread PolandMET
Are you sure, that it has "fusion crust"?? WOW, Steve make new photo of himself. But where is my favorite, old one with Steve in front of doors ? I agree, this one is strongly weathered and looks like fragment with desert crust -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Mete

Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 2749

2007-07-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Are you sure, that it has "fusion crust"?? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von steve arnold Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Juli 2007 13:30 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] nwa 2749 Good morning list.I just got

[meteorite-list] nwa 2749

2007-07-28 Thread steve arnold
Good morning list.I just got all my slices and main mass of NWA 2749.I took a couple of pics of the main mass on my homepage.The green clasts and shiny bubbly fusion crust are gorgeous.View at your liesure.And thanks bob. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!

[meteorite-list] Ad: VOYAGE! magazine: 7 issues covering Sep/Oct 1997 upto and including Sep/Oct 1998

2007-07-28 Thread Rob Lenssen
Dear List, For those of you interested in old issues of VOYAGE!: I have 7 issues (Vol 1 No 2 - Vol 2 No 2) covering Sep/Oct 1997 upto and including Sep/Oct 1998 for sale (to be sold as one lot): http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Voyage!.JPG Included are 9 photographs (see above web site) belon

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite preliminary first page up!

2007-07-28 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Thank you very much, Mike, for sharing your Cali-adventure! It's simply breathtaking to follow up the traveling route of the meteorite, it's splitting into the different paths of the single stones, continuing flying southwards even inside the houses after having penetrated the roofs. So this stran

[meteorite-list] Cali links, and sales information

2007-07-28 Thread Michael Farmer
Ok, some updates made to the webpages, and one more page up with CALI 001 photos and information. http://meteoriteguy.com/califall/CALIcolombiafall.htm http://www.meteoriteguy.com/califall/cali001.htm I have been swamped with requests for pieces. I must tell the list that there is virtually not