Hola Sterling, E.P., All,
Concerning recent impacts (12,000 years old), what
I've noticed over the years is that some people go
into denial, and those denial mechanisms are sometimes
really pretty bizarre. It's tough to accept on a gut
level that as things now sit you, your family, your
Hi, Darren, List
Where I read this, I just walked around saying
Ah-ha! Ah-ha! for about five minutes. I watched
their eight movies and with particular interest, the
cross-sectional ones that show the curly tongues
of fire extending down. I am irresistibly reminded
of all those old medieval
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I have auctions ending tonight, ebay ID catchafallingstar.com. Auction
style were started at just at 99 Cents!!! In addition there a lot of
Buy-it-now offerings as well.
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Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's
.. arrived today and I must tell you that it is out-of-this-world! My 11.9-gram
endcut
can keep you busy for hours!!! Its dark-brown crust still shows traces of
black, glossy
fusion crust and the abundant colorless, pale bluish or even pale greenish but
*limpid*
maskelynite crystals clearly
I second Berndt's opinion. I have never seen a eucrite like this. My slice
also captivated me under the microscope-amazing complexity and variety!
Easily an order of magnitude more beautiful under the microscope than any
other eucrite I've seen.
Jim Baxter
.. arrived today and I must tell you
Dear List,
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Larry wrote:
something like 30 years ago. It would be nice if people gave credit where
credit was due.
Hi Larry, List,
I agree with your complaint that it is a more satisfying existence to give
credit when expressing ideas, to those upon whose shoulders one is
peering from. The press and
G'day, Bob -
You wrote:
All you have to do is look up the Queensland finds
on
metsoc to realise which of the major players and
doyens of the meteorite community have been involved
in illegal export - you'd be surprised once you
figure out exactly who...
Well, don't keep us in suspense
Try Mike Gallant's site;
http://www.migacorp.com/micromount_displays.htm
Gary
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Hi Sterling:
You wrote:
I wonder how many years (decades) it will take for
this lesson to sink in?
I'm not optimistic. Go back to this archive, and look
at some the of posts here on impacts from reasonably
intelligent people. The Hibbens discussion, the Homo
heidelbergensis discussion, and
Hi Listers,
A question if I might please... What is the lightest-weight major
constituent matrix material found in meteorites? Is it a type of
hypersthene possibly? Does someone have an unusually light-weight
specimen they would share information on?
Thanks in advance to anyone offering
Hi Jason -
You wrote:
Well, probably, though we have no real proof of their
having been blasted to death *anywhere.*
Denial takes many forms.
I'm not an idiot.
No one said you were. It simply that your efforts to
rationalize away the deaths from these impacts is
reducing your replies to
It's even hard to predict the exact results...
Hola Listees,
Yes, this is what Larry and I had already stated, Sterling. While on the
subject of James Clerk Maxwell, I wanted to add two interesting footnotes,
(1) Decated to Sterling, a guitar fellow with Maxwell (and not to forget
E.P.'s
Any chance you might share a pic or two? Sounds interesting.
Michael Murray
micro hunter of SW Colorado
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accepting fair-market offers on all of the above.
fear not the high prices- after all, it was 20-cent
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Hi everyone, I am finally getting back in order after
the Tokyo show, jet-lag has set me back a day or two.
One thing of note from the show, there is an explosion
of fake Moldavites being made in China now. We saw
several jewelery dealers selling them, incredible
perfect looking large pieces, all
Michael M. wrote: Any chance you might share a pic or two? Sounds
interesting.
Hello Michael and List,
Greg already did so some days ago, on Thu, Dec 13 - see below.
Oh, and while we are at it: Meanwhile I noticed that this cosmic spider web
is not
limited to the cut surface of my endcut
Mike wrote:
They were mostly set in wire as pendants, and when put side by side, you could
clearly
see them as identical, made in a mold. I have found one of the same on ebay, at
a very
high price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Czech-Moldavite-200-5-Carat-Green-Meteorite-Tektite_
Christmas Geetings, Bernd,
Kan't you give us a photo link, now that you have us
All tripping over our tongues?
Best wishes, Michael
on 12/20/07 5:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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.. arrived today and I must tell you that it is out-of-this-world! My
11.9-gram
Hi Mike,
I had heard this and passed it on well over a year ago. Collectors
And dealers alike seemed to promptly ignore me and acted as though
I were spreading some horse pucky as a sales pitch. So, I just shut
Up about it.
However, your having SEEN these fakes at a show and
on 12/20/07 10:12 AM, E.P. Grondine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS - Barringer crater is a mile across, not a
kilometer, as I wrote earlier. Thus, assuming neutrons
are released in impact, and that this results in
higher C14, then from the radio-calibration correction
charts Firestone cited,
Not to forget, the small bubbles in the real Moldavites and the Schlieren
in the real Moldavites, like the Schlierenbands in some Ataxites
Bubbles: http://moldavit.de/foto/fsammlung3.htm
Schlieren: http://moldavit.de/foto/fsammlung2.htm
Best regards
Andi
Mike wrote:
They were mostly set in
Yes, these fake Chinese pieces are perfect, with great
color and no flaws. That lack of flaws should be the
first indication of authenticity.
They are melting glass and pouring molds.
Michael Farmer
--- Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to forget, the small bubbles in the real
Hi, Jason, and the List,
Don't want to do a full-court press here or have
a knock down drag out. The point of atmosphere
not a factor in that size range is merely that an
impactor that makes a one kilometer crater is not
going to be stopped from reaching the surface by
the Earth's atmosphere;
Check out the photo with the article.
http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/NEWS01/712200310/1002
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:29:13 -0600, you wrote:
If a comet makes a close pass to Earth once, will it eventually make closer
and closer passes until we collide? Why?
But if enough of them gang up against us, they can toss us out in the cold!
Dear List Members,
For my final Rare and Special offering of 2007, but certainly not the least,
I would like to introduce NWA 4799. It is Northwest Africa's first and only
true Aubrite. This meteorite finally puts to rest to what a true NWA
aubrite should look like, I am even offering a 100%
E.P, All,
Well, probably, though we have no real proof of their
having been blasted to death *anywhere.*
Denial takes many forms.
Show me proof. Show me blackened bones.
Oh, that's right - there isn't any.
As I said before, I won't say that such events haven't happened,
because in all
Hi Bernd, Jim, Michael and all who love exotic meteorites,
Thank you Bernd for your great observations of NWA 4883, a fantastically
gorgeous maskelynite-rich eucrite. The pools of maskelynite are awesome to
look at through a microscope along with the rest of this beauty.
Michael asked where
Hi List,
I think I may have answered my own question at least partially.
Probably the matrix of a c-chondrite is the lightest in weight. I
guess I wasn't thinking about them when I asked that.
Anyone have anything else that is a lightweight?
Mike
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:16:45 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
They are melting glass and pouring molds.
Hence, mold-a-vites.
See, they are being up-front about it after all!
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Hi, Michael, List,
Michael wrote:
If you want a lesson in denial, read the archives on the
HUGE number of list members regarding the denial of
Global Warming. And this is a list consisting of people
WAY above average in both intelligence and educational
Achievement.
1. PLEASE, nobody start
Check out the photo with the article.
http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/NEWS01/712200310/1002
Here's an upsampled copy of the photo:
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/dec2007meteormaybe.jpg
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Hola Sterling, All,
Don't want to do a full-court press here or have
a knock down drag out. The point of atmosphere
not a factor in that size range is merely that an
impactor that makes a one kilometer crater is not
going to be stopped from reaching the surface by
the Earth's atmosphere;
Hi Sterling and all,
Sterling, you are right about my comment. Please accept my apology.
Agreed: No GW thread!
Sincerely, Michael
on 12/20/07 3:26 PM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi, Michael, List,
Michael wrote:
If you want a lesson in denial,
Hi Bernd, Jim, Michael and all who love exotic meteorites,
Thank you Bernd for your great observations of NWA 4883, a fantastically
gorgeous maskelynite-rich eucrite. The pools of maskelynite are awesome to
look at through a microscope along with the rest of this beauty.
Michael asked where one
://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/NEWS01/712200310/1002
Here's an upsampled copy of the photo:
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Garrison wrote:
Check out the photo with the article.
http://www.dailypressandargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/NEWS01/712200310/1002
Here's an upsampled copy of the photo:
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/dec2007meteormaybe.jpg
Global Warming is not the issue. Causes, including human, continue to be
contentious.
Jerry Flaherty
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Hi, Rob, Jason, List,
I meant angles to be referenced to the horizon.
Zenith = 90 degrees; Horizon = 0 degrees.
I also mean a local polar coordinate system with
0, 0 at ground level, crater center. Probably a flat
Earth too, while we're at it. If it was good enough
for...
Rob, I'm assuming here
Hi Jason, list -
If you stopped lying - and maybe started obeying the
laws of physics, scientific method, not to mention
basic logic, we might get somewhere.
Thanks for the compliment, Jason. I don't think we
are going to be able to get anywhere.
Show me proof. Show me blackened bones.
Oh,
Dear List,
This link is in regards to the statement made by an
Indian scientist, Dr. Goyal, in which he claimed that
if the meteorite hit the reactor it would cause severe
damage to a nuclear reactor and disaster.
The Indian government is still investigating.
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
Hello Greg, Berndt, Michael,
I'm afraid my photographic skills and equipment are too lacking to do the
material justice but here are low resolution scans of my slice:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/CaneySprings/NWA4883AEUCspideryclasts16-3gmGr-1.jpg
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:37:11 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
so sad to see delusional people who think that their
common worthless rock is worth millions.
Or even those who think that their rare, valuable meteorite is worth millions.
You know, the ones who think a (for example) $10 a gram meteorite
E.P.
To be perfectly frank, I've had enough of you, but I do like getting
the last word in, so here you go.
If you stopped lying - and maybe started obeying the
laws of physics, scientific method, not to mention
basic logic, we might get somewhere.
Thanks for the compliment, Jason. I don't
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:31:56 -0800, you wrote:
The only person in denial here is you, who refuses to accept the fact
that he can't possibly know with any certainty what sort of cosmic
cataclysms caused either dust layer.
Sure he can. 200 years ago, between sips of firewater, some indian told
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:31:56 -0800, you wrote:
You've put forth some
ridiculous claims, such as the supposition that the droplets of the
meteor crater impactor were still liquid upon coming back into contact
with the ground
And don't forget (only seen because someone quoted him-- originals go
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22350742/
Watch the skies! We may be getting (okay a LONG time down the road) more
Martian meteorites...:)
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Mike, Bernd, Andi, Michael, all,
Could be interesting to perform some accurate chemical analysis on some
selected fakes.
Probably the relative amounts of main oxides (SiO2 from 79 to 83%, Al2O3
from 8 to 11%, K2O from 2.4 to 3.4%, CaO from 1.4 to 2.7%, or MgO from 1.3
to 1.9%, as taken from
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