Good evening (night) everyone...
I forgot to mention earlier, I'm also looking for fusion-crusted fragments
(10-100g) of fresh L or LL Chondrites, witnessed falls... Bensour, Benguerir,
ect.
Please email off-list with your offer, please.
Cheers...
Ryan
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Hi Mike, Darren-
Thanks for the info, Mike. A half ton main mass may mean that smaller pieces
were likely to be in the area. I expect that you hunters will be taking a look
around when the weather gets warmer; it is quite likely that while the Native
peoples did pick up whatever fragments they
Dear List Members,
I have several excellent auctions ending this week so be sure to take a
look if you have time. I loaded my two best oriented buttons with paper like
folded back lip-over rims. It took searching through over 30,000 individuals
to
find these two museum quality examples. If
I have often wondered and after some discussion with others I wanted to get the
community feeling on the issue of pairings.
If a meteorite say NWA 1877 for example is out there and more is recovered and
verified to be the same material from the same strewnfield, should the new
material share th
Wow! I sure hope that satisfies the majority of listers. I was about to
through
out a discussion on weather it's "Wal Mart" or "Walmart", just to change the
subject! Ha! Thanks for your input!
Dennis
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:09:42 -0500
> From: cdtuc...@cox.net
> To: meteorite-list@met
Good question Greg. I'm curious to see if you'll hear anything other
than crickets in response. ;)
On 1/18/10, Greg Catterton wrote:
> I have often wondered and after some discussion with others I wanted to get
> the community feeling on the issue of pairings.
>
> If a meteorite say NWA 1877 for
Aloha listoids,
LUNAR
The Big Kahuna has a special offer on this MLK day - a fresh 4.10g crusted
slice of NWA 4734 lunar mare basalt on ebay ending tomorrow at a starting bid
well below market. No bids yet means I will consider all reasonable offers
from metlist subscribers, and pull off ebay
Neat story, enjoy.
Greg C.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26603785-3102,00.html?from=public_rss
AN ongoing dispute over a bizarre-looking rock has landed in court.
Residents in Cunnamulla, about 825km west of Brisbane, have been bickering for
months over the discovery of a 25
I think I've answered this before, but again:
Yes, it would be great if all meteorites that fell as a single shower
(in a single field o'strewn) had a single name.
When a meteorite is found in Kansas or Germany or Mexico, it's fairly
easy to look in databases and catalogs and find all the pos
Hi Gary
Regarding one of your "self-paired" ebay auctions. You claim to have a .26
gram complete individual of NWA 2975.
This is IMPOSSIBLE as NWA 2975 is only one 70.1 gram complete stone.
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=33425
As the original co-owner of this stone,
Hello list,
just recovered by a member of the German meteorite forum:
http://kuerzer.de/diletto
Don't we get finally sick and tired with that Australian idiocy, do we?
Aren't there any persons, researchers, meteorite people with reason to be
found on that continent, who feel the same pain how
Bevan rules!
On 1/18/10 10:25 AM, "Martin Altmann" wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> just recovered by a member of the German meteorite forum:
>
> http://kuerzer.de/diletto
>
>
> Don't we get finally sick and tired with that Australian idiocy, do we?
>
> Aren't there any persons, researchers, meteo
For those of you using a GPS navigation unit in your vehicle for getting around
to the various shows in Tucson, be aware I have just updated the POI file I
created. The new version can be found at:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/24678
This latest version contains the locations for all of the s
Hi Greg,
This might be a typical question for Jeff Grossman.
I am also continuously puzzled by the abundance
of paired meteorites (thus those that are officially recognized as such).
Let's suppose that once one (or a few)
meteorite(s) are selected from an important lot
(as found) and sold t
I was asked privately if the file contains the locations of each meteorite
dealer.
Unfortunately no, it does not.
What the file has is the location of each show. Usually I chose the front
entrance to the building, the main parking lot used for the show, or in some
cases where the parking surro
Thanks very much Jeff.,
Your answer arrived while my post was sent. By
all means it better explains the complicated
situation regarding pairings than my poor trials.
Zelimir
At 18:01 18/01/2010, Jeff Grossman wrote:
I think I've answered this before, but again:
Yes, it would be great if a
As always, Jeff offers great insight to this, I highly value his comments.
That is my main point, many stones such as the Martian you mention, being well
known pairs could be served better to share a same number rather then many
spread around - this would as I said present a problem to dealers an
Zelimir brings up one more case that I didn't cover... when two names
are given to the same physical stone. If the NomCom learns of this and
can be sure that this is what happened, they can abolish one of the names.
jeff
On 2010-01-18 12:46 PM, Zelimir Gabelica wrote:
Hi Greg,
This might be
Zelimir:
So it's possible all the classifications (shown below) are from the same fall?
And perhaps from the same large mass?
Thanks,
> NWA 4857 (Algeria, Shergottite enr maf), 0.928 g in collection; tkw:1...@24 g:
>
> Paired with NWA 2975 (70.1 g), NWA 2986
> (170 g), NWA 2987 (82 g), N
Hello Greg C. and All,
The self pairing issue comes up at least once a year. I agree that a single
number would be best for all, but there are too many problems with that
model. In the original question Greg C. asked with NWA 1877 as an example,
as one of the original co-owners of the NWA 1877
As a seller, what is expected of me or anyone else offering material like this?
Should I make it very clear that while I am selling a 1.25g stone paired with
NWA 4857 that there is a considerable amount more then the TKW listed?
Would saying its paired with another of those stones be misleading
May he live long and prosper in happiness and at best health,
but when he started and when I started with meteorites,
Australia ranked among the Top-Three meteorite nations.
Now it is of no relevance anymore with less than 1 (ONE!!!) new find per
year on average.
And it's not Denmark, Poland or S
Thanks Greg, great post with really good information.
This is a great topic that I am sure many who read will benefit from.
Pairing is an important issue in my opinion and the comments offered here can
surely help anyone when dealing with unclassified and paired NWA material.
Jeff is one of the
Hi List, I have a pre Tucson sale of some very nice top quality specimens
for sale like large slices of Dong Ujimqin Qi, Esquel, very rare Eagle slice
with a huss #, Gujba, Claxton and Peekskill. See all specimens here!
http://www.meteoritemadness.com/meteoritesforsale.html
I still have some nic
Greg and the list,
As a seller I would say its your obligation to disclose all information about
that meteorite as possible. However, I recently encountered that with some
meteorites being sold on eBay and the excuse of the individual was... I have
been busy and its hard to keep up with new fi
My data are taken from the major Dr Irving's
updates of the Martian Meteorites Page and List,
kindly provided in a recent post by Norbert Classen (IMCA):
http://www.imca.cc/mars/martian-meteorites.htm
See more specifically here:
http://www.imca.cc/mars/martian-meteorites-list.htm
I have no r
Hi Shawn,
at least for the lunars and Martians the pairing groups are well and
completely established and easily visible for everyone
for the lunaites on Randy Korotev's famous site:
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites.htm
for the Martians on Tony Irving's soon similarly famous sit
Hi Martin and List,
Very well said! Thank you for your input and what I believe most of us agree
is the proper set of rules one should follow as collectors, sellers, and
especially as upstanding IMCA Members!
Best regards,
Greg
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault
Don't expect every meteorite found in this strewnfield to get its own
number, that's just is not going to happen
NWA 2975/
/2986
/2987
/4766
/4783
/4857
/4864
/4878
/4880
/4930
/5140
/5214
/5219
/5113
/5366/ etc,etc,etc,etc,etc
Did I leave any out:)
Tim Heitz
- Original M
Hello Greg, All,
This brings up a valid point - when total known weights have increased
since initial reporting, I believe that dealers should be obligated to
change their numbers. Otherwise they are *lying* about what they're
selling. The total known weight of Taza is not 75 kilograms, the
tota
Well, I don't know if you left any out as that is not really important.
However, anybody who thinks they can sit in front of their TV eyeballing
meteorites that they just got in the mail from from some remote desert, and
make a "best guess" classification will get called out by those of us who
Hi List!
Please forgive the second post about this auction, but it's for a good
cause and 100% of the proceeds go to charity.
There is only one hour left in this auction. I will include MANY free
bonus items, includes micros of rare types, to the winner.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie
Ed and list,
Joe's website refered to it as "Mendota", for the nearby town in Illinois.
I have labeled my end cut as such, and look forward to having fun with it
during my show-and-tell sessions.
Linton
- Original Message -
From: "E.P. Grondine"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:
Greetings listoids,
Someone on another forum (Astromart) asked about this alleged meteorite,
supposed to have fallen in the early '60's. I've never heard of it, but that
doesn't mean much. The MetBull shows no search results though, and that
carries a bit more weight. Has anybody heard this nam
Hi Linton and List,
Grady's Catalogue of Meteorites doesn't contain any entry on that name
or variation of that name.
Best regards and clear skies,
MikeG
On 1/18/10, Linton Rohr wrote:
> Greetings listoids,
> Someone on another forum (Astromart) asked about this alleged meteorite,
> supposed t
Listoids,
Some of the rarest material offered:
You can buy Moon.Marsbut when did you ever see a Dutch "Hammer"
offered...
Glanerbrug
Fell: April 7, 1990 in Glanerbrug, the Netherlands.
This meteorite penetrated the roof of a house. A total of about 800 grams
was recovered on the attic
I checked out the ridge - the only references I found to a "Mad Anne's
Ridge" were somewhere in Allegany County, NY, but the only fall within
New York that happened within a few decades of the 1960's was the
Schenectady meteorite, which fell *nowhere* near Allegany County - or
the town of Allegany
Jason, Jason, Jason..
...sometimes I can't believe, what you're writing.
Tell me examples for misrepresented coordinates from Oman!
Man, from the beginning on the Russians and the Germans in Oman meticulously
documented their finds. With coordinates, with in situ photos, with
describing the prop
Good evening list.I have 9 meteorites that I am putting up forsale to get a
little x-tra tucson cash,so with out further ado here we go;
_
1.NWA 1109 30.8 GRAM FULL SLICE COTTINGHAM CARD $1K
2.UNCLASSIFIED 48 GRAM ORIENTED ST
List,
Martin wrote--
- Even if you're absolutely sure, that one of your stones is paired to one
or several existing NWA-numbers, you are not allowed in no case to use one
of these numbers.
I think I understand the reasoning behind what has been put forth in this
discussion so far and abide with i
hello... test
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.before I go to bed.
Hypothetically and very roughly:
What should a person earn per year, I mean, what shall she or he have for an
income left after all his expenses,
if he or she newly recovers per year by own means, let's say:
1 lunaite
1 Martian
10 HEDs
3 Rs
5 Carbonaceous - CMs, CKs, CRs
2 r
Let me guess, an immense contribution to the sciences but the return on
investment looks like a charity endeavor.
Martin Luther said after nailing his little paper to the door of that
church (very roughly translated) "Here I stand because I can do no other."
Few
of us have figured a way
See, We all have our voices. It's not just me!!!
In a message dated 1/18/2010 7:34:53 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com writes:
its funny you say that. Last night I wanted to cut into a new NWA... at
4am.
Greg
--- On Mon, 1/18/10, starsandsco...@aol.com
wrot
Finally, the origin of carbonados!
http://news.discovery.com/space/diamond-oceans-jupiter-uranus.html
Diamond Oceans Possible on Uranus, Neptune
By melting and resolidifying diamond, scientists explain how such liquid diamond
oceans may be possible.
Oceans of liquid diamond, filled with solid d
G'Day List
This has been a very interesting read. Quite some time ago, I brought up
the question about NWA 4024, which apparently on the card that
accompanied it and the Met Bull stated a TKW of 38.1g. But there's
definitely alot more out there ??? Is there pairing going on here?
http://tin.er.us
G'Day Tom and List
I'm with you on the voices. Have you worked out an on / off switch yet?
Cheers
John
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 20
This is a forward for my friend
Hello,
Well worth a walk in the park..
SEE ALL AUCTIONS AT ONCE!
http://shop.ebay.com:80/meteorite-collector/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m301
SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE!
http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
Thanks
Has anyone ever sent in Tahoka to be classified?
I don't have a very great amount of this material, but
I'd be willing to either get more or send in a piece
of mine to get it officially classified and into the Met-Bul.
Would there be a problem with this?
Related question-
I have 3 main masse
thanks martin,
i would say guys , the nomade are not hunters of meteorite as a job, most of
the meteorite are found accidently, that's the reality except for the falls,
that we hire team to look for,
just to understand what is hapenning in nwa and what is going on on the list i
will say
the nom
Well answered Tom!
Fer christ's sake, anyone that has read your offerings would know how
careful and analytic you are in your comments!!
Carry on!
Ger
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From:
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 77, Issue 42
Send Meteo
They should at least make a couple of hundred dollars, at least.
On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Martin Altmann wrote:
.before I go to bed.
Hypothetically and very roughly:
What should a person earn per year, I mean, what shall she or he
have for an
income left after all his expenses,
if he
Hello,
Well worth a walk in the park..
SEE ALL AUCTIONS AT ONCE!
http://shop.ebay.com:80/meteorite-collector/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m301
SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE!
http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
Thanks and Best Wishes
Michael Cottingha
Dear Listees:
A warm invitation to those of you in and around Tucson to join us this
Wednesday at a special premiere party for "Meteorite Men" the series,
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Thanks Jason.
The material I saw listed Allegeny County in Virginia/West Virginia.
Sounds like the same character though. Interesting tales.
http://www.ferrum.edu/applit/bibs/tales/MadAnn.htm
Regardless, the MetBull shows nothing after 1950 in either state.
I'm curious to learn where this guy got
Martin,
Sometimes I just can't believe the ways you'll skew things to justify
dealers' actions.
> Tell me examples for misrepresented coordinates from Oman!
I've just had some off-list conversations with *several* prominent
list-members, all of whom agreed that while not all Omani coordinates
are
Hi Martin and all,
Obviously the Australian Federal laws are bothersome to collectors and
restrict the amount of material found. No one would or could question that.
But unfortunately there is a slight flaw in your plan. Even if the
Australian Federal laws were abolished, there are still the s
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