Re: [meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking

2011-11-22 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica
Hi Ruben, all, The Catalogue of Meteorites (M.M. Grady, A.L. Graham), NHM London, Ed 2000, p 313, reports that the MACAU meteorite shower (Brazil, 1836) killed several cattle (several oxen killed, houses damaged...). They give some references (I did not go through). See:

Re: [meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking

2011-11-22 Thread MexicoDoug
I recall, perhaps from Rodrigo's old site(?), that the early Spanish explorers crossing the desert between present day Chile and eastern point found many dead cows in that area much predating the meteorite naming. And then that a dry wash named 'vaca muerta' in the mid 1800's that appeared on

[meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking (Vaca Muerta)

2011-11-22 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hi Ruben, Doug, AL, All ;-) PEDERSEN H. et al. (1992) Vaca Muerta mesosiderite strewnfield (Meteoritics 27-2, 1992, 126-135, Appendix A: Synonyms, p. 134): As often happened with meteorite finds from the last century, the material was assigned a variety of names. In the case of Vaca Muerta, this

Re: [meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking

2011-11-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Zelimir asks to post: - L. LaPaz, in: Popular Astronomy, vol. 59 (1951), p 433 not Bernd, but here the reference is: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1951PA.59..433L/434.000.html It is for both Macau and N Concord (the first time the latter horse/colt mention appears

[meteorite-list] Macau fall: more data

2011-11-22 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica
Hi again, I found the reference of LaPaz about the MACAU fall killing cattle: See the following link: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1951PA.59..433L/433.000.html His reference was simply Meunier, without any further bibliographic detail. As Stanislas Meunier had published

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2011-11-22 Thread valparint
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Re: [meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking (Vaca Muerta)

2011-11-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Bernd; Wow, that's a great passage! And here's one of the maps it refers to (as I mentioned from Rodrigo's old site) - not sure which - probably Fletcher (1889) if picking from your reference's descriptions: Don't know if the link will work but be sure to paste it together in the URL

[meteorite-list] membrane boxes---HELP with sources please

2011-11-22 Thread jim_brady611
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Re: [meteorite-list] membrane boxes---HELP with sources please

2011-11-22 Thread imca5098
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Re: [meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms faster-than-lightparticles gps accuracy

2011-11-22 Thread Steve Dunklee
My bad lol! The 14ns from gps to ground then back is 28ns multilpied by both sender and reciever detectors to 56ns plus or minus 10 ns of error. It still seems a little large. a 60 ns difference in relativity could also be caused by a mass of around 6 solar masses entering our system but it

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Re: [meteorite-list] membrane boxes---HELP with sources please

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[meteorite-list] NASA Invites Public To Learn And See Scientists In Action Online (MSL)

2011-11-22 Thread Ron Baalke
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[meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15841896 Little hope for stuck Phobos Grunt probe By Jonathan Amos BBC News November 22, 2011 Phobos-Grunt - Mishap sequence * 9 Nov: The probe launches successfully on its Zenit rocket from the Baikonur Cosmodrome * It is

[meteorite-list] Online PDF files of USGS Publications, i.e. Jeptha Knob, Sierra Madera, Etc.

2011-11-22 Thread Paul H.
Dear Friends, Free PDF and other files of United States Geological Survey can found online and downloaded from the “USGS Publications Warehouse” at: http://pubs.er.usgs.gov/ Examples of the USGS publications with PDF files that can be downloaded from this site are: Cressman, E. R., 1981,

[meteorite-list] Deaths by impact

2011-11-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hello everyone - I am not going to re-write the catalogue of massive deaths by impact here again for your amusement. If you're interested in a single small piece hitting an individual, that has been coverd by others, and I'm not that interested in it. I am interested in the report of an

[meteorite-list] Deaths by impact

2011-11-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Anne - Just send them my way, and I'll be pleased to speak to them for several hours. The Big asteroidal hits that are known of have been Canyon Diablo (46,000 BCE), Campo de Cielo (2,235 BCE if memory serves), one in Siberia 26,000 BCE and one in Alaska ca 34,000 BCE. It is currently

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Blood
Hi Phil All, Phil's Subject box describes Blanca Spring as a Near-Hammer, But I had always heard it fell in a small pond people used as a swimming Hole, NOT in a man-made pool resulting from a dam for the express Purpose of creating such a swimming pool. I have swum in such a

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Impactika
I am sorry Michael, But how could Pena Blanca be called a hammer?? It struck WATER!! Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Craig Moody
Hello Anne, Michael and List. I would have to agree with Anne, in that if it struck the water, and sank to the bottom, then it would not be considered a hammer, however, I assume that if it hit the side of the pool and left physical evidence of that fact, then it would be a hammer. This

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Would a meteorite that landed on a paved road be considered a hammer stone? Paved roads are 100% man-made, yet I know of several falls that have been recovered from roads or parking lots and are not referred to as hammer. Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Craig Moody

Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread Count Deiro
Just an off handed comment to all, Russia and China are being reminded that it isn't smart to screw around with the United States of America strategically, or economically. Strange things can happen to your spacecraft, nuclear programs, computer systems and the life spans of some of your more

[meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
The Count wrote: Strange things can happen to your spacecraft Especially if the probe is called * g r u n t * (grunt = a short low sound an animal makes in its throat) Sometimes nomen est omen ;-) Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at

[meteorite-list] Happy Holidays to my Meteorite Collecting Friends

2011-11-22 Thread Thunder Stone
I wanted to take a moment to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays too, As there are different celebrations… some for me and some for you. As we gaze into to the sky on Christmas night We may see Santa's sleigh dashing in flight, But there are other objects falling to earth

Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread Count Deiro
Bernd wrote: (grunt= a short low sound and animal makes in its throat) It also is in the American English vernacular as meaning: (A basic U.S. Army infantry rifleman) Best to Bernd and our associates around the world for good health, and to all Americans of faith, a Happy Thanksgiving!

Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Come on guys, I say hope the Grunt spacecraft grunts even louder ... - some nicer words in this terrible setback for the exploration of space whether by Russians, Chinese or the rest of us. Please don't forget that the sexiest grunting comes from the best examples of the female animal of our

Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread Guenther
Hey Count, That is really funny! Thanks for the good laugh. Hopefully not true but I am sure it would be very easy for them to secretly mess with other spacecrafts if they wanted to. Abe -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] New System Would Assess Odds of Life on Other Worlds

2011-11-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://news.wsu.edu/pages/publications.asp?Action=DetailPublicationID=28889TypeID=1 New system would assess odds of life on other worlds By Robert Strenge Washington State University November 21, 2011 PULLMAN, Wash. - Within the next few years, the number of planets discovered in orbits

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Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Would a meteorite that landed on a paved road be considered a hammer stone By Michael's definition of this concept of hammer, why would you require the road to be paved? Nothing magic about asphalt. Macadam, gravel, graded dirt; etc. they all work. And for that matter, anything that lands

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Impactika
Very good Doug. Impeccable logic with a very funny conclusion. Good luck with the Torpedoes! (no wonder the word hammer has been banned from my site!) Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc.

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Chris Spratt
Okay, I think this is nitpicking. All meteorites land on something even Mars. Marvin the Martian might quibble if it hit his spaceship but would it be a hammer if not Manmade? Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Doug and all, Please do not think my example is my definition of the concept of a hammer-stone; quite to the contrary, it was to illustrate that not all man-made targets should result in a meteorite being termed a hammer. -Michael In a message dated 11/22/2011 4:58:26 PM Mountain Standard

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Richard Montgomery
Holy S!!! The video link half way down 'electrifying science video' is, well, purdy durn scary. RM - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: mikest...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mlbl...@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:58 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Doug Ross
TORPEDOS! lol Perhaps, as a practical matter, a meteorite is only a hammer if there is some damaged object that meteorite dealers can recover to sell to us collectors! Doug Ross Now, if what hits water isn't a hammer, I get first dibs on naming it (beat ya Michael!!!). They are TORPEDOS.

Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe

2011-11-22 Thread John Lutzon
Hello Doug, Just got in and had a good laugh. Now, inquiring minds want to know---are you speaking from expierence?? John - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; countde...@earthlink.net Sent:

Re: [meteorite-list] Pena Blanca Spring -OK, I relent Hammerstone?

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Blood
On 11/22/11 3:58 PM, Met. Mexico Doug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: Would a meteorite that landed on a paved road be considered a hammer stone By Michael's definition of this concept of hammer, why would you require the road to be paved? Nothing magic about asphalt. Macadam, gravel, graded

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2011-11-22 Thread Greg Hupé
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[meteorite-list] Calendar of Falls

2011-11-22 Thread Impactika
Hello again, Since we have been talking about Falls, hammered or otherwise, this might be a good time to announce that I have finally updated the Calendar of Falls on my site. It is all cleaned up and up to date. Take a look: http://www.impactika.com/birthday.htm Then go see if I have your

Re: [meteorite-list] Deaths by impact

2011-11-22 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 01:33 PM 11/22/2011, E.P. Grondine wrote: I am interested in the report of an impact killing a Roman legion. That's one I have not heard mention of. I'm not aware of report of a meteorite killing an entire legion. There is the story that Gnaeus Pompeius Strabo along with many of his

[meteorite-list] Some interesting meteorite falls of the last two centuries

2011-11-22 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
An interesting recap: http://www.icq.eps.harvard.edu/meteorites.html Some interesting meteorite falls of the last two centuries DATE LOCATIONREMARKS REFERENCES 1807 12 14Weston, CT, U.S.A. meteor visible half a minute, [21]