Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread John Teague
After flying from coast to coast today, imagine my glee with 20 or so post on this topic ... very insightful posts, I might add. I can't wait until the upcoming 'reduction' in ADS that keep cluttering up my INBOX! With tongue fully in cheek ... John -Original Message- >From: Don Merc

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Greg Hupé
Hi Linton, I did jump off a perfectly good bridge in Nanaimo, BC a very long time ago, but I don't remember catching any loose gravel on the bungy cord on the way towards the river... ;-) I did fulfill that Bucket List item, and then went on to gather really cool rocks! :) Greg -Origina

[meteorite-list] Fireball over Oregon tonight

2014-04-09 Thread Edwin Thompson
We had a fairly large fireball just 31 minutes ago at 8:31p.m. Pacific time, color was mostly green heading east just north of Grant's Pass and it was seen to break into three pieces. It lit things up at dusk and was most likely seen by a number of people driving north and south on interstate 5.

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Don Merchant
I knew it was a rock in his head that fell out of his ear and got caught up in his shute! Cheers Don Merchant - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 5:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock So now that the parachute

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Linton Rohr
One thing's for sure, Greg... If at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving! ;^) Linton - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupé" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock ... just my opinion as I have never jumped out of a perfec

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Wooddell
Lol! Throw a grant at it and have it due in 5 days and it will be solved! How science works! Jim On 4/9/2014 4:04 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: The hypothesis has not been debunked by NASA. I hardly think the parachutists are making things up. I just think they're a bit confused about how sc

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images: April 9, 2014

2014-04-09 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES April 9, 2014 o Two-Color Dunes in Meridiani Terra http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_033483_1805 Why are these dunes different colors? Sand on Mars is typically dark in tone, as it commonly derived from volcanic rocks like lava flows. o S

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Peterson
Seems pretty normal. While there's still at least a reasonable possibility of a meteorite, I'd expect a lot of chatter among people interested in meteorites. Once it's demonstrated that the meteorite explanation is extremely unlikely, people move on. What's left to discuss? Chris

[meteorite-list] Scientists Reconstruct Ancient, Massive Impact

2014-04-09 Thread Ron Baalke
http://news.agu.org/press-release/scientists-reconstruct-ancient-impact-that-dwarfs-dinosaur-extinction-blast/ Scientists reconstruct ancient impact that dwarfs dinosaur-extinction blast American Geophysical Union Press Release 9 April 2014 WASHINGTON, D.C. - Picture this: A massive asteroid al

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Peterson
The hypothesis has not been debunked by NASA. I hardly think the parachutists are making things up. I just think they're a bit confused about how science works. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/9/2014 4:59 PM, Michael

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Well, there were a hundred posts when it broke, now that it seems to be un-breaking it goes silent. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: > > Assuming for a moment that it had been debunked, which I do not > believe it has yet, what conversatio

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Actually it seems NASA has debunked it and they parachutists themselves admit it is a stone from the parachute, which I said from moment one. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: > > I'd like to point out that the meteorite explanation has not b

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Michael Farmer
Well one of the parachutists seems to think someone at NASA did debunk it, since they posted a thank you for the help thanking NASA. I guess they are making that up too:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: > > NASA has not debunked it. And th

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Wooddell
I think it has been debunked...but those that debunked it are not coming out publicly and saying anything. So, if anything is possible, that shinning light on MARS is the Chinese rover everyone thought landed on the moon! Jim On 4/9/2014 3:54 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: Assuming for a mom

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Assuming for a moment that it had been debunked, which I do not believe it has yet, what conversation would you expect to see on the list about it? Michael in so. Cal. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > So now that the parachute scam has been debunked and now proven to be a

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
List, You can get to that paper (Gladman on Mercurian ejecta) at the following URL: Mercurian ejecta: http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.4038 Gladman is also the author of a similar study on Martian and Lunar ejecta: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1996LPI27..421G Sterling Webb ---

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Peterson
The apparent trajectory, size, shape, and albedo are all reasonable for a meteorite. More importantly, none of the physical parameters are inconsistent with a meteorite, so the hypothesis remains valid, simply very unlikely. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Obs

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Peterson
NASA has not debunked it. And the parachutists have only determined a plausible way that a small rock could have ended up in the parachute. As I said, the meteorite hypothesis has not been disproved, only relegated to a sufficiently small likelihood that further investigation is probably unwar

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Greg Hupé
The thing I find most telling that it was a faked event or a rock fell out of the plane, is that everything I know about people who jump out of airplanes pack their own parachutes. I seriously doubt anyone would accidentally pack a rock into their chute... just my opinion as I have never jumped

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Wooddell
Based on what? Jim On 4/9/2014 3:20 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: The falling object is still consistent with a meteorite. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenli

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Wooddell
I've said all along it was something other than a meteoroid. I would have thought one of these math/engineering gurus would have published something about it but nothing. I have yet see an article that I feel is credible on the subject. Jim On 4/9/2014 3:11 PM, Art Jones wrote: Here's a co

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Peterson
I'd like to point out that the meteorite explanation has not been "debunked", nor has it been proven that it was a rock from the parachute. The falling object is still consistent with a meteorite. What's been demonstrated is that the rock is very plausibly explained as something trapped in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Art Jones
Here's a couple articles: http://norskmeteornettverk.no/wordpress/?p=1497 http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/04/08/skydiving_meteorite_it_was_a_rock.html -Art -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Wooddell
Did you read that somewhere? Jim On 4/9/2014 3:04 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: So now that the parachute scam has been debunked and now proven to be a rock from the parachute, why has the list gone silent on it? Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archiv

[meteorite-list] Fake Norway rock

2014-04-09 Thread Michael Farmer
So now that the parachute scam has been debunked and now proven to be a rock from the parachute, why has the list gone silent on it? Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteori

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread Alan Rubin
This refers to modeling, not actual observations. Gladman and Coffey (2009) MPS 44, 285-291 calculated that Mercury ejecta could achieve independent orbits and re-accrete to Mercury after several million years. Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics University of California 3845

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread cdtucson
Alan, You said; "Interestingly, some studies have concluded that rocks blasted off of Mercury spend millions of years in independent heliocentric orbits before accreting once again with Mercury." How did our probes reveal enough data to reach such a conclusion? Thanks, Carl Meteoritemax -- Lov

Re: [meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread Gaetan Cormier
Well I was maybe excited for nothing.. this is probably a hoax. The photo they used to show the meteorite is also found in an article about antartic meteorites dated back in 2013: http://www.artsci.utoronto.ca/main/newsitems/ray-jayawardhana-antarctica Oh well Gaetan Cormier GC Meteorites: ht

[meteorite-list] New Canadian Meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread Gaetan Cormier
The fiereball that occured on the evening of March 18th @ 10:24pm over Ontario has produced meteorites as some was found with a surprise in it! http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/canada-extraterrestrial-lifeforms-discovered-in-meteorite-debris/ Gaetan Cormier GC Meteorites: http://gcmeteorites.blogs

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2014-04-09 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Nakhla TS Contributed by: Anne Black http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http