Re: [meteorite-list] In search of a hammer

2007-04-13 Thread E.P. Grondine
I find myself with the inability to find out more. Please excuse, Hammerhead Michael on 4/13/07 2:38 PM, E.P. Grondine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Going through some notes from 2003, I found this: From Julius (IULII: OBSEQUENTIS AB ANNO URBIS CONDITAE

[meteorite-list] Meteorites, their parent bodies, strewn fields, and beta

2007-04-07 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi everyone - My apologies once again for not yet writing a full thanks you note to everyone from Tucson, but I hope you'll understand... I've already mentioned Mexico Doug and some others, but let me also thank Impactika, Anne Black, and Chladnis's Heirs, for the fine specimens. There's

Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian bolide rehash post #4

2007-04-02 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Rob - So it appears there is hope for getting info on asteroid porosity by measuring strewn fields - good hunting, all, EP --- Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My reply to Randall's post (#3): - - - - - Sent: 3/1/2007 7:37pm PST Randall, Enclosed is the workshop

Re: [meteorite-list] Abstract: EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) NorthwestAfrica 2828

2007-03-29 Thread E.P. Grondine
point out it has been a relatively short period. Ed E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas $34.95 at amazon, or contact me off list --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] cglobal.net wrote: Hi, All, an ancient fluvial and/or acidic lacustrine environment... Most people think

Re: [meteorite-list] IMPACT ICE AGES [WAS: Abstract: EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite)NorthwestAfrica 2828]

2007-03-29 Thread E.P. Grondine
- Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Abstract: EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite)NorthwestAfrica 2828 Hello Sterling - The present ice age is not going

[meteorite-list] Iron streams?

2007-03-29 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I was just contemplating the possibility of a fragmented iron asteroid making repeated passes by the Earth, and so I am wondering: how do the compositions of Meteor Crater (canyon diablo, odessa?), Campo de Cielo, and Sikote Alin compare? I am also wondering, has anybody ran 1950 DA's

Re: [meteorite-list] newbies corner

2007-03-16 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I think there is a need for a collection of wisdom here. Other topics: how to cut treating for rust how to make thin sections best metal detectors Then these would not be repeated every time someone new came along. good hunting, Ed --- Robin Galyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just

Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite GoesThroughWindowinIllinois

2007-03-15 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Chris - I wonder if you could use strewn field data to estimate the porosity of the different types of parent asteroids? good hunting, Ed --- Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well shoot, Doug, it sounds like you've got more time than I to analyze this thing. I do have a

Re: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids?

2007-03-13 Thread E.P. Grondine
lawt 10,000 years are the norm, and not a one off, then the way to go is with a Moon based lidar system with a 1 AU detection radius. That's where China is heading. with this bum left hamd, I have really got to get a spell checker - sorry for the typos. Ed E.P. Grondine Man and Impact

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen in Canada, Michigan

2007-03-13 Thread E.P. Grondine
Maybe we won't be getting any offers from Chicago Steve in our e-mail for the next few dqys - Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.thestar.com/News/article/190985 'Falling star' frightens Earthlings Christian Cotroneo Toronto Star March 12, 2007 Cynthia Crowther

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007AGU Meeting

2007-03-13 Thread E.P. Grondine
Sterling, all The impacts which ended the last ice age are covered in Man and Impact in the Americas, as is the mechanism which brought the last ice aqge to an end. My opinion is that the climatic effects of these impacts most likely finished off mosat of the the mega0fauna though effects on

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA's Near-Earth Object Report to Congress

2007-03-12 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Ron, all - I attended the Planetary Defense Conference last week and watched as Morrison et al. asserted yet once again that comets apprise only 1% of the impact hazard on the basis of absolutely no evidence at all other than their own wishful thinking. I certainly hope NASA has something

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007AGU Meeting

2007-03-12 Thread E.P. Grondine
were formed, and they also remembered other well evidenced impacts. Now did we ever get a good date for the Campo de Cielo fall? good hunting, Ed E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sterling K. Webb wrote on Sun March 11, 2007 Hi, List

Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more

2007-02-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Mark, Ken, all - The problem as I see it is that if the exposure of these frauds is not given with them, then people will continue to be swindled by them. The original writers made money with these frauds the first time around, and there are still writers today who are interested in making

Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN

2007-02-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
by Edgar Allen Poe to avenge himself on an editor who had stiffed him. good hunting, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Mark is certainly correct about the hoaxing propensities of 19th century (and early 20th century) newspapers

Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more

2007-02-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling - To state the obvisous, fire was the primary way of cooking food and heating in those days, and accounts of fires must be read in that light. good hunting, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Michael, Jeffrey, List

Re: [meteorite-list] Unique Observations of Comet McNaught Reveal Sprinkling Nucleus

2007-02-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all, Sorry for all the mail; but there are days when I post nothing... Bernd, do we have any carbonaceous chondrites with high sodium? congratulations Rob, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas Their images show spectacular jets of gas from the comet spiralling several

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite may confirm legend

2007-02-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Were there any more reports on this find? good hunting, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas --- gian paolo gallo gallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - http://www.china.org.cn/english/30360.htm Hola forist. ¿ Does somebody know abuot this cosmic

Re: [meteorite-list] Polujamki/Markovka pairing: second try

2007-02-24 Thread E.P. Grondine
Thaddeus - Why not go out and try to find some more pieces? good hunting, Ed --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't enough information to reach a conclusion. The original masses and how they were assembled prior to fragmentation are missing values and presently beyond valid

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Finally 1st Chladni MARS Case - get the veryfirst box crafted. Soon a historical collectible!

2007-02-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Martin - I am really enjoying the Chladni Chip of the moon which I bought from you in Tucson. Thank you very much! A warning to whoever gets this one - I was showing the chip at a nearby bar the other evening, and an acquaintanc opened the casket before I could stop him. Luckily the he

Re: [meteorite-list] Blaine Reed Tucson Notes AD

2007-02-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Mark, all - Tucson was a gas, but from what I could make out, Inn Suites was charging the dealers (and thus the dealers' customers) as much as they could. Then Inn Suites shut down the bar early and put out the fire outside of it. oh yeah, thank you Inn Suites... The guards at the Arizona

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite in New Hampshire

2007-02-20 Thread E.P. Grondine
Gary, I don't know if anything was coming in, but space junk fetches a good price as well. good hunting, Ed --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there was any space junk scheduled to re-enter over the northeast US on the 14th? Trying to eliminate possibilities as

[meteorite-list] Olmec hematite

2007-02-19 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - You often see annecdotal mentions of meteorites being recovered in Mayan burials, but I am not sure if these specimens have been properly identified. Consider the following Olmec (Zoque) images, in particular the third one down: http://www.mesoweb.com/lords/origins.html Here a small

Re: [meteorite-list] Dwarf Planet 'Becoming A Comet' (2003 EL61)

2007-02-19 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling - For a history of the effects in North, Central, and South America of Earth's recent encounter with Comet Encke, see my book Man and Impact in the Americas. The current thinking is that SW3 will sublimate into dust, but I am not very sure about that. In the worst case, it appears

[meteorite-list] Martian and Lunar Cuttings

2007-02-18 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hello all - I finally delivered the lunar and martian cuttings which I purchased ftom Greg Hupe earlier this year to the recipients' mother - a very belated Christmas gift. I gave them to her at a fund raising event for their father, who is in very serious condition. She was very pleased

[meteorite-list] Lost on the way to Mike's auction

2007-02-18 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Mike - I don't want to opine about posting the prices, but I did loose Stefan from Chladni's Heirs on the way to your auction - how about flyers with a nice large simple map on the back next year? good hunting, Ed --- Darryl Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the macovich auction---where

Re: [meteorite-list] Carsten's amazing new CK4 NWA 4679

2007-02-17 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Bernd - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever I tell myself or promise my wife no further meteorite purchases in the near future, another exotic, unique, must have critter from space descends on me and shatters such solemn promises. Are they flying your wife to Tuscon next year as

[meteorite-list] Tucson, butr the wrong month

2007-01-02 Thread E.P. Grondine
HI all - My trip to San Diego to the American Institute of Archaeology convention via Barringer was re-routed by that snow that fell in Denver. Albuquerque and Amaillo are snowed in. All is not lost - I visited Odessa this morning, and hope to head through Tucson tomorrow afternnoon. I have a

Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14

2006-12-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - When dealing with the man did not walk on the Moon nuts (and for these folks man did not walk on the Moon because either 1) they did not see the reamins of another civilization there, or 2) NASA was hiding the real astronauts, who did see the remains, by staging fake landings

[meteorite-list] too late for Chladni contest

2006-12-16 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Sorry, I ditched the contest winner post last night, but did anyone suggest Chladni chips? my best wishes for commercial success to the Chladni team on this endeavor, and good hunting, Ed __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 16, 2006

2006-12-16 Thread E.P. Grondine
I suppose it's superfluous to once again thank you for sharing these images with us. This reminds me of Krasnoyarsk, but a little further out from the core of the parent body. good hunting, Ed --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/December_16.html

[meteorite-list] Apocalypto

2006-12-09 Thread E.P. Grondine
HAZARD From E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] In recent weeks we have been greeted with repeated announcements of the reduction in funds available to NEO programs, as governments whose revenues are coming under stress due to the economic slowdown seek to economize. In view of these developments, which

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 28

2006-12-08 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I just wrote a book on man and impact. It's called Man and Impact in the Americas, and it's available through amazon. I'm tired now, so I'll keep this short. The experts numbers for impact appear to be off by about factor of ten, in the impactors' favor, not man's. Over the last

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 28

2006-12-08 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - --- Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: even very rare high speed meteoroids should follow a power law size distribution, so a pebble should be much more common than a boulder I think that meteorids as currently defined includes both comet bits and asteroid bits. If that is

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 28

2006-12-08 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Ahah - things are becoming clearer - Perhaps this explains to some degree the apparent lack of cometary meteorites - their speeds are too high to survive entry - of course, the other alternative is that the experts in meteoritics have simply mis-identified cometary meteorites - my

[meteorite-list] Effects of travel through space on comets?

2006-12-08 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I was just wondering if any of you have given any thought to this - While we generally think of space as a vacuum, in fact it is not. There are dust particles (some of them chonrdules?), and if I remember correctly, about 1 molecule of hydrogen per cubic meter - Now at normal

Re: [meteorite-list] Sorry, Martian find raises no chance of whiskey, Dr. Death

2006-12-07 Thread E.P. Grondine
--- doctor death [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We know so little about Mars how do we know that this wasn't wasn't whiskey flowing freely? That's easy. The water in the whiskey would evaporate at Mars pressure-temps, and I think that the alcohol might as well, for that matter. Now if you have a

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball report from this morning in Utah

2006-12-07 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - There's that green color again. last time it was lime green. He probably saw something, but which direction he saw it fall is another question. good hunting, Ed --- Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No reports here. When you are 9 miles south of Mesquite on I15 you are

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball report from this morning in Utah

2006-12-07 Thread E.P. Grondine
HI Chris - --- Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most of the rest see some variation of green, ranging from pale lime to bluish. This is probably caused by the 558 nm forbidden oxygen emission line, mixed to varying degrees with a white thermal emission. What is this? I remember

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2006-12-04 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Might non-iron inclusions explain some of the crusting? Might iron meteorites with inclusions actually fragment along inclusions during entry? Or might heating the inclusions cause fragmentation? I don't remember (hell, now a days I don't remember much of anything) any inclusions in

[meteorite-list] Small impact in Russia?

2006-12-02 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Sorry if this has already been posted. I am just catching up with e-mail after power outage due to snow. good hunting, Ed UFO Crashes in Russia’s Siberia mosnews.com - Dec 1 2006 An unidentified flying object has crashed in Krasnoyarsk Region, Siberia, causing a forest fire, the

Re: [meteorite-list] Sylacauga Meteorite in 1954 Struck Woman

2006-11-30 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - lime green - what is sylacuaga made of? good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/061130/meteorite.shtml [Photo] The late Dr. Moody Jacobs in 1994 with a copy of the Dec. 13, 1954, issue of Life magazine, which

[meteorite-list] Escaped ejecta from large impacts

2006-11-30 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Re: martian and lunar meteorites I have been asked what percentage of material from a large impact will actually reach escape velocity for impacts on different bodies, and I am at a loss for any handy dandy quick reference. Help! good hunting, Ed

Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At MysteriousNewport Tower *except for a meteorite)

2006-11-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - They were not paying attention to that level This gets my blood pressure up. While from what I read, the excavators were constrained by time and weather, given the uniqueness of the site, they should have been paying attention. good hunting, Ed Man and Impact in the Americas ---

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels-gifts: Hopewell meteorites

2006-11-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling, What may be an Iroquoian tradition of the Brenham impact is given in Man and Impact in the Americas (available through amazon.com). I am glad that organic samples were taken for radio-carbon dating in Steve Arnold's hunt. I am sure that the physics of that impact have been

Re: [meteorite-list] Was: Meteorite novels -gifts II New Topicstitle- Meteorites and Archaeology

2006-11-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling, Dirk, Doug, List - Dirk's timeline never made it to me. While I did not cover Navajo or Hopi traditions or their archaeological sequences in Man and Impact in the Americas, I don't have a problem with Dene (Navajo) settlement at those times. The problem with the Athabascan Bastards

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this?

2006-11-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
the limestone in an hour or a day, like a Scablands channel. Or, maybe, it's a Thunderbird egg... Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent

Re: [meteorite-list] New Topics title- Meteorites and Archaeology... was novels

2006-11-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Dirk, Doug - RE: Navaho and their role in the SW sequence: My book Man and Impact in the Americas covers Mushkogean traditions of their migrations, and events around Sunset Volcano. It's available for $34.95 from amazon.com, or send $35 to P.O. Box 158, Kempton, IL 60946 and I'll sign it

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this?

2006-11-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Jim, list - In all of my Adena and Hopewell reading and site visits I have never seen anything like this object or read a description which might match it. The object was reported near an Adena site, but since all of those sites were prime real estate which was re-occupied by colonists, it

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II

2006-11-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I considered labeling this OT or AD, but... Sterling - I cover the Native American epidemics in Man and Impact in the Americas. While there was a major epidemic ca. 1200 C.E. (A.D.) it does not appear to have been Black Death, which occured 1347 CE and following years. The symptoms

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II

2006-11-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Doug, list - If you're trying to get a grasp on different peoples attitudes towards meteorites, you have to go back and examine the impact events which affected them. For the Germanic peoples, the Kali impact appears to have been a major influence. For the areas further west, formerly part

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this?

2006-11-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Jim - The remains at Moundsville are covered in my book Man and Impact in the Americas, and I have visited there several times, inclusing tracing the Grave Creek trade path. There was extensive Native American settlement in the entire area (map page 133 Man and Impact in the Americas).

[meteorite-list] AD: Looking for retail outlets for Man and Impact in the Americas

2006-11-24 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I'm looking for retail outlets for Man and Impact in the Americas, so if any of you run retail outlets, here's the deal: While Man and Impact in the Americas is listed at $34.95 through the big boys, I like to make it available through the small guys for $24.95. I'll pick up the

Re: [meteorite-list] NEW photos of the silicated iron. Formation mechanism?

2006-11-11 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi everyone - Well, Mike certainly has obtained a rare specimen. The question is Why are silicated irons of this type so rare? At the risk of revealing my stupidity, I'd like to ask if it could be that they are cometary origin, representing cometary core material? That might account for the

Re: [meteorite-list] NEOs, Tsunami, Meteors, Comets, Astronomy, ice falling ......and insanity

2006-11-06 Thread E.P. Grondine
listeners, instead of the 12,000,000 or so I had hoped for. But the listeners couldn't order my book anyhow, since Adventure Unlimited Press's online ordering system did not work. Its always nice to have something to take your mind off your troubles. Sympathy meteorites may be sent to, E.P. Grondine

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket

2006-11-02 Thread E.P. Grondine
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von E.P. Grondine Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 22:53 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket Hi - My take on this so far: On Hupe's cards, in as much as the dealers are clearly identified

[meteorite-list] Are cards a casket for Specks?

2006-11-02 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Dean - Sorry, but it looks like Bessey specks has lost out to cuttings and crumbs. But cheer up. On the positive side, I doubt if the term Martin's miniscules will ever come into common usage. good hunting, Ed --- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Trace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Collector Card vs Casket

2006-11-01 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi - My take on this so far: On Hupe's cards, in as much as the dealers are clearly identified, and the dust's provenience, there is no doubt as to authenticity, and it is nice to see the vendors/finders/preparers recognized. The $95 dollar samples are nicely packaged for collectors, but too

Re: [meteorite-list] New Collector Card Series

2006-10-31 Thread E.P. Grondine
Congratulations, Adam - These look to be perfect for children, a great way to utilize cuttings from lunars and martians for education, and a useful way for preparers to offset slicing costs. My best wishes for your success with this project. But why Stonehenge? I think that a larger image of

Re: [meteorite-list] geidam/private emails/steve arnold diffrence

2006-10-30 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Steve - It would only take $600-$700, if that much, to clear your name. First off, send Ruben his meteorite. Second, work out the details with the gentleman who traded you for it. Your maximum loss would be $600-$700 in the meteorites you traded for it. Your gain would be your reputation.

Re: [meteorite-list] park forest outing

2006-10-29 Thread E.P. Grondine
Steve - I suppose this is what happens when you let your lust for meteorites overtake your good sense and engage in questionable activities - others tend to stay away. If you look at what has happened, all the goodwill you deservedly earned in the Brenham recovery has been done away with in the

Re: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling - You left foaming after a release of gravitational pressure out of you list of hypothetical chondrule formation mechanisms. It seems to me that Sears theory hits the same problems presented by chondrule dating that the foaming theory faces. I wonder how he got around that

Re: [meteorite-list] Rob's Comet's Exciting Explosion Part II

2006-10-26 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Doug - I wonder why Rob's come frgamented up at this particular time. Where was Rob's comet at in terms of the plane of the ecliptic? Had it just passed a nearby large gravitational body? good hunting, Ed --- MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Listees, Rob's green Comet has

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-24 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Rob - molecules of a feather flock together? why? If they did, then say an initial detonation of our sun could have been the heat which fused them together. I think speculation on this kind of blast has been bandied about much recently. good hunting, Ed --- Rob McCafferty [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-23 Thread E.P. Grondine
a copy when 1st ed. was remaindered out of print for $4. However, the 2nd Ed. (1999), much bigger, is available used for $20: http://www.bookcloseouts.com/default.asp?R=0521641306B --- - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
correct. I'd like to work on it and prove SOMETHING, anything. My mum always had aspirations of me becoming a doctor...ahem. Rob McCafferty --- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jeez Bob, and all I was trying to do was to come up with a good excuse to personally examine

[meteorite-list] A request for help with comets, and a Hammer

2006-10-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
From: Robert Juhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AD593-594 comet Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:19:20 +0800 Hello E.P.: As a member of CCNet, I have followed your occasional postings. Recently, I discovered documentary evidence in medieval East Asian texts

RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Ad New Lunar Seymchan Bessey Specks

2006-10-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Mike, list - Just when Bessey Specks were finally out of my conciousness, along comes another cut lunar - Okay. How about cuttings as in cuttings from NWA999 Lunar/Martian meteorite preparation by as an alternative to Bessey Specks? Put that on the tag alongside your picture of the

[meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism

2006-10-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I think I would be right in saying that the usual mechanism proposed for chondrule formation is precipitation at low temperatures over time. But I am wondering: could chondrule formation be linked to the release of pressure? Could it be like a soda-pop, where when you take the cap off

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism

2006-10-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Darren - Thanks - much has been lost in the stroke. I also seem to remember a long slow cooling involved in chondrule formation - I am thinking that effervescence following a sudden release of pressure might be a better process description - good hunting, Ed --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism

2006-10-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Thanks Darren - now this is more like it - h --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.aspbooks.org/custom/publications/paper/index.phtml?paper_id=2447 Chondrule textures depend on the extent of melting of the chondrule precursor- material when cooling starts. Kind of

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
jeez Bob, and all I was trying to do was to come up with a good excuse to personally examine that Krasnojarsk RSPOD Oct 15. You're just about ready to handle some of my asteroid and comet impact correspondence. Ed --- Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list What I have ben able

[meteorite-list] Re: Visit the Moon and Mars

2006-10-18 Thread E.P. Grondine
I think Ms. Killgore has the idea. --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=5554116 Meteorites' value astronomical TUCSON, Ariz. -- Marvin Killgore could be described as the Indiana Jones of the meteorite world. In the past 16 years he has

Re: [meteorite-list] What to do with meteorite dust

2006-10-18 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Dave - So what you're telling Tracy is that those little plasic bullion trays are going to yellow? That's sad, as the plastic would be safer than glass for the children. It would also be easier to permanently stick the labels on them. Oh well - Wouldn't glass slide mounts be better for

Re: [meteorite-list] What to do with meteorite dust

2006-10-18 Thread E.P. Grondine
Make that read anne instead of tracy' - sorry, I wish I didn't make mistakes like that --- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave - So what you're telling Tracy is that those little plasic bullion trays are going to yellow? That's sad, as the plastic would be safer than glass

[meteorite-list] Re: Bessey Specks

2006-10-17 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Michael, list - I see you list your Bessey Specks as frags. (Your price of $25 seems very fair for Nakla specks, but I already picked up Mars Bessey Specks for childrens' gifts at Christmas from Hupe.) Clearly, there is a need for a more elegant term than Bessey Specks for these. Does

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Bessey Specks

2006-10-17 Thread E.P. Grondine
developed. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Bessey Specks Hi Michael, list - I see you list your Bessey Specks

Re: [meteorite-list] More Than a Meteor Likely Killed Dinosaurs 65 Million Years Ago

2006-10-17 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Ron - meteor impact? Didn't any one at NSF catch this? Even given this, the header should have read More Than One Meteor Likely Killed Dinosaurs 65 Million Years Ago quibble, quibble, quibble, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 15, 2006

2006-10-16 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Sorry for a second post on this meteorite, but... This is a wonderful slicing job by someone. The contrasts in its components make this meteorite remarkable. How did it form? There must have been great temperature contrasts, and the materials are so well separated. It would be

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 15, 2006

2006-10-15 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Sorry to intrude on the Greg/Stan exchange, and perhaps like my late cat I am simply taken in by shiny things, but this is a beauty. What is its composition, and how did it form? good hunting, Ed --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/October_15.html

Re: [meteorite-list] Does world-record meteorite await unearthing inKansas?

2006-10-15 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Perhaps my memory fails me, but I seem to remember that Brenham was traded nearly two milleniums ago by Native Americans and showed up in hopewell mounds, not the mere hundred years ago stated in the Chronicle article. End of quibble, and best wishes for a very good hunt - Ed ---

Re: [meteorite-list] Information and Behavior Consensus

2006-10-15 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Greg, Stan - Greg, I think it would help if your posts were a little more to the point. You seem to be irritated with the way Stan is dealing with finds from Morocco, but the specific complaints you have with him seem unnecssarily vague to me. I know there is a dealer chain, and pecking

RE: [meteorite-list] 73P in 2022?

2006-10-03 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Rob - Take a look at the Rio Curaca and Rupunini impacts, then opine. That material came from some source, and an SW3 debris stream makes a pretty good candidate. Thankfully, worrying about all of this is not my job. It's NASA Administrator Michael Griffin's, by act of Congress. I'm

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Used To Study Solar Activity ATLAST!!!

2006-09-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling - My guess for the puzzle's answer: Most likely, the change in solar radiation changes the Earth's ozone level, which in traps more IR. Sort of like the doped layer of a transistor - a small change in the Sun's radiation leads to a big change in temperature. A South African

[meteorite-list] Fwd: OT (or on with 44Ti?) Sunspot mechanism

2006-09-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterlring, list This from today's CC: (6) SOLAR ACTIVITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE Will Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Benny As a subscriber to CCNet, like many of your readers I have watched recent developments with increasing alarm. What I completely fail to understand is the

Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of meteorite-wrong

2006-09-27 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Dave - It sure looks like a cannonball, but where in Illinois was it found? A general location, like a nearby town, would be adequate. good hunting, and better luck next time, Ed --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the links to the pictures of the meteorite-wrong that Jason Utas was

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Lands In New York

2006-09-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Sorry, but to me it sounds like a tree root fire spreading to a buried tree stump. The explosive force required to make a hole that large would have woken up everyone in the neighborhood. good hunting, Ed --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON

2006-09-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling - Continuing to veer away from meteorites just briefly... Some have speculated that there's a difference between a habitable planet and a planet on which intelligent life might evolve - namely, ground and ocean. There is no particular reason why the entire surface of the Earth

Re: [meteorite-list] 73P in 2022?

2006-09-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Rob - I don't think a spacecraft launch will be necessary to obtain samples, but perhaps several launches may be necessary for other reasons. Aside from the recent bolides, and the several hundred pound TNT equivalent hit at Troms, Norway, there appear to have been hits by large SW3

Re: [meteorite-list] Mesosiderites= Vestan?

2006-09-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling, list - Perhaps a key to this problem is to sort out the parent bodies first, and contra McSween, perhaps Artemis and the LPBE(s?) indicate one of the keys' shape. Crater counts and crater spectra are important in sorting this out, and here NASA has not been doing its job. An

Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON

2006-09-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON Hi Sterling

Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON

2006-09-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
down on the solid parts.. Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2003

[meteorite-list] Re: COMETS AND CARBONACEOUS CHONDRITES

2006-09-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
(C UNGRs) fall outside the other groups and probably represent other parent bodies of carbonaceous chondrites or source regions of the primordial solar nebula. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON

2006-09-20 Thread E.P. Grondine
-- - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON Hi Sterling, list - but core

Re: [meteorite-list] Unbelievably late package - is UPS better?

2006-09-19 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I am greatly enjoying everyone's tales of woe with government mail services - sharing the burden of a frustration does make it lighter - sometimes there really is nothing one can do but laugh. But I am wondering, is UPS better? good hunting, Ed --- Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] 2003 EL61, IN PERSON

2006-09-19 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling, list - but core-forming planetesimals all the way out in Kuiper Belt?! Yes, cometissimals - about 75 meters or so, which themselves can then accrete chaotically over time, with the heavy elements always gravitationally precipitating towards the center - the lighter volatiles always

Re: [meteorite-list] Unbelievably late package - is UPS better?

2006-09-19 Thread E.P. Grondine
hunting, Ed --- Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I am wondering, is UPS better? Not particularly. A few years ago I bought a share of one of Michael Cottingham's Moroccan investments. He sent a package of, I think it was, about

Re: [meteorite-list] List of recent falls?

2006-09-13 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Thanks for the note on how to retrieve fall information, Eduardo. 1261 still seems too low to detect fall intervals, but who knows - With Google putting news for the last several hundred years online, perhaps the number of descending aereolites identified will increase - another

Re: [meteorite-list] Study: Earthlike planets may be common

2006-09-10 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Boy do I feel stupid. I missed last April's Planet V discussion. Now we can still have nine planets, one of which, Planet V, is gone, unfortunately. But then of course this was all bandied about on the list in the planet x discussion several years ago. I couldn't accept then that the

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorites on Mars

2006-09-08 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - If this were true we should be seeing more meteorites on Mars - either that, or the MER teams aren't looking for them - or wind blown dust has buried them - In any case, they should be giving us surface ages for Mars where the MERs are, and they aren't. By the way, several years ago

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