Mark and others,
I couldn't seem to come up with anything unique so I asked one of my
sons...and his answer is better than any "original" response I was thinking
of. Here goes.
"Meteorites are cool because they are from way out in outer space, and we
can't go there. And it is cool to have things
Pictures I've seen from the rover that was on Mars makes it look like the
typical rocks are weathered to a rusty brown color...like many
olivine/pyroxene (w/iron) rich rocks here on earth.
Can anyone tell me if this is thought to be the case, and do any of the Mars
meteorites found show any signs
Bill,
Thank you for this informative response. I have a nice chunk of Zag that has
one surface that looked like a slickenslide...but I've had doubts because it
looked smooth/polished, and I was thinking these subtle striations should be
grooves with edges. Not the case by your answer.
If I can ge
Hello all,
I'm about to ask one of those wandering (also wondering)
questions again...one that probably won't be answered to everyone's
satisfaction, especially mine. Here goes...
With all the latest Campos, Sikhote Alins, Kainez, Gao, Gold
Basin, and others (I'm sure) being found these d
awesome section, and very tempting Michael...thanx for the look see
John
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From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Polarized view of TS of N
Mike and others,
Since it has been snowing all day and is expected to do the same all day
tomorrow (total of 30 inches or so)...I think I'll have time to read more of
Nininger's book.
The one thing that stands out from his book accounts of searching and
finding meteorites (usually indirectly thro
Eric and others,
The fireball in PA was a big one. I missed seeing it by seconds...I was out
front working and stepped in for a minute for a drink of water...only to
miss it. As for where it landed...possibly in the bordering counties of PA
and NY, near the middle of PA. There is some farmland in
Michael,
Thanx for offerings. The 23g Gao "nose cone" is extraordinary. The frothy
crust on the back side looks so light and fluffy. I am impressed...but it
is out of my league ($).
Thanx again for sharing these beauties.
John
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From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTE
just most are never recovered or
if they are, they are not linked to a fireball event or made
public.
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
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From:
John Divelbiss
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday,
Hello all,
As David Hardy suggested...things sure are slow on list. I'll
try to add something.
I'm reading Nininger's book, Find A Falling Star. I'm only a
third of the way through...and I'm hooked! I keep looking out back to see
if a fireball might be passing by... or maybe I'll find a
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Divelbiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 753
> Hi John, Tom and list
> John, would a inert invironment help sabilize this
> oxidation? L
Tom,
First off, many of R pieces from the desert are oxidized a bit.
According to "Rocks from Space", these meteorites have very little free
metal "floating around" in the makeup. Like normal chondrites with nickel
iron. The metal is in the sulfide forms of pyrrhotite and pentlandite. The
iron
Hello all,
Sorry to intrude...but I have to ask. Is this a LL3
meteorite?
Looks like a pastry to me. This is the second time going
through as an auctioned meteorite.
Do any of the chondrite guru's out there have an
opinion?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=215716513
Rob,
Very cool find. A find with circumstances that is worthy of your gesture.
Another name could be Mojave STS-107.
Let us know how it turns out.
Thanx to you and Ron for the interesting discussions and information on
Columbia's path and debris field.
It was a tragic day.
Regards,
John
-
Hello all,
This one looks a little fishy to me. Zag for $18/g...seller
and bidder from France. Are we looking at a little bit of a scam, or just
anxious bidding? Daa?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2156937492&category=3239
John
PS I think all the other reserve
Russ,
Resistance is futile...surrender (to our meteorite whims) or be assimilated
(by the Nantan collectors of the world).
Gotta love the Borg,
John
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From: "LabNEMS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: [meteor
Hello List,
I took Jeff's offer up and presented a picture and brief story
on the "rocks" that got me interested in meteorites. As you would find out they
turned out to be meteorwrongs...nice ones at that. The page is in one of his
information sections on his site. The link is below.
htt
Tom,
Way to go Right now they are probably like chunks of gold to you. Like I
said last week...field collecting of anything makes our collections all the
more "valuable" to ourselves.
JD
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From: "Tom aka james Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
S
Hello Al and others,
I have been at collecting for about 4 years after finding some of the most
convincing meteorwrongs you'll ever see. Someday I'll get them up on web for
you all to see. It turned out to be a rocky-like slag that had a lot of flux
in it from oldtime smelting. Melted surfaces wit
This is a followup to Bob's comments in reference to guessing the types of
terrestrial rock we've seen lately on the list. By the way, I love some of
earth's finest rocks...so I do not look down at them at all...but they are
not from other planets/sources.
The site below has a list of over 1200 di
Bernd, Jeff, Mark B and others:
Once again, thank you for your help with these questions. Hopefully others
learn as much as I do...and appreciate the knowledge gained.
So the irons are gone from Africa? Maybe yet to be found in some areas?
Regards,
John
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From: "Be
Norbert, Mark and list,
The statistics/estimates suggest somewhere near 86% of
all falls are chondrites...achondrites make up 7%, iron meteorites make up 6%,
stony-irons have the final 1%.
Not to many pallasites or mesosiderites... anywhere.
Do the NWA numbers suggest a higher number (
Does anybody have any information on the Genuine meteorite
from Japan? It's not in my information. Just curious...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2153745214&category=3239
John (>:}
David,
Sounds like a great way to get out the message. Like most of us, I have done
a little "meteorite sharing" with classrooms, co-workers, and scouts. I
always get the feeling that I'm one of just a few people that have a clue
about what meteorites are. While popular like never before, the num
Mohamed and Matteo,
It looks igneous to me...quartz or pyroxene crystals being the main mineral.
Black mineral maybe magnetite...or a amphibole or a mica.
Mohamed...question...does it attract to a strong magnet? If so, probably the
black is magnetite.
Regards,
John
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Bernd, Mark and Dean,
Thank you for your responses on NWA R-chondrites. My comparison is that my
two slices of 978 looks a lot fresher than my two 753 slices and one
individual, which are more oxidized (orange colored) than the 978 I have.
The chondrules appear to be rounder and smaller too in the
Hello all,
On to new subject.
Can anyone tell me if any of the different numbered NWA
R-chondrites are paired? Like NWA 753 and 978, both R3.8's...and also NWA 782
and 800...both R4.0. Along with Ouzina...also a R4.0.
The reason I asked is because I was one of the
curious to recently
ng Steve. But I'll remain back east dreaming of Gold Basin and
the rest of the show. Report in please.
As suggested by others: Steve...it is time to lay low and cool it...both
here on the list, in your dealings and in Tucson.
This is a tiresome subject.
John Divelbiss
"Herman-75"
Norbert,
Congratulations...I'll have to send a gift. Something greenish brown, cold
and hard.
"What did we get for a present, honey?...We got a rock."
Best Wishes,
John
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From: "Dave Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003
I meant an end piece of 904, not an end section...blah,
blah, blah.
roger and out,
JD
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From:
John Divelbiss
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 7:48
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sunday night
auctions
Hello all
Hello all,
I have 4 nice combination thin sections and slices for
sale on Ebay that are due to finish Sunday night (my time in PA). Three of them
are very old terrestrial samples including olivine gabbro, hypersthene
(orthopyroxene) and peridotite, which represent some of earth's close cous
Rob and Frank,
Rob...you're not convinced?
The Hugh comment was great Frank.
I've heard of imaginary deer and bunnies running out in front of crashing
cars, etc. But have you ever heard of a meteorite being blamed for the barn
being blown up by the "recipe" still?
JD
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John,
Just cut it in half then...
JD
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From: "John Gwilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "STEVE ARNOLD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] looking for four cornrs meteorite
> I have a small bloc
Hello,
I just finished listing 5 new covered thin sections on ebay.
These were made from my material through Jeff Rowell. The five includes NWA's
787, 869 and 904. Also there is a nice Bilanga section, and one of my new
terrestrial gabbro sections, which looks something like your favorite
Ken,
Let me take a wild guess...a toilet/seat?
Does it have a fusion
crust? Let's hope not.
John
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From:
magellon
To: STEVE
ARNOLD ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:33
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] old
n
Ron,
Thanx for opportunity to see the work of NASA and others. The impact crater
shot is really something...and according to the note, the crater has eroded
and significantly filled in. The initial site after impact would have been
something to see. Imagine it...
John
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I revised the number in title and text.
JD
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From:
John Divelbiss
To: metlist
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 6:28
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay auction
for 98375 should be 98175 (and my other faux pas...)
Hello all,
One of my
Hello all,
One of my auctions was just questioned and it turns out that I
have a (meteorite list) faux pas on ebay, for the following item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=736303525
It is not Sahara 98375, but 98175...and still a LL3.5.
(Thanx to Michael Masse for ques
Matt,
LL3.5, and L5 or LL5 (would say 6 but I see a number of nice chondrules in
it too). Very nice material.
John
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From: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite-List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:59 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Inte
Mauro,
Great pictures...a real treat. If we didn't know any better, the Gujba and
Taza pictures look like something from outerspace...
Thanx for sharing,
John
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From: "Mauro Ianeselli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, Novem
see a
> telescope actually placed within the "asteroid belt"
> and we'll know the true state with certainty.
>
> ep
>
>
> --- John Divelbiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > Great stuff Al. As always, thank you for respondi
changes as it losses more of one element than others, changing
the resulting rock formation mineral ratios. I think I answered my own
question, but I'M WAY OVER MY HEAD HERE!!!
HELP.John
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From: "almitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joh
Hi Al, Rob, Bernd and others,
I think it is wonderful to think we can match types with asteroids that are
labeled and watched.
I have a question. Is it safe to say that what we are doing is matching
spectrums of types with those same specturms for a given asteroid, but not
necessarily committing
e and thanx for
reading.
John Divelbiss
Reading, PA
IMCA 2006
Rob,
Very cool. It sounded like an L3 to me.
Thanx for sharing,
John
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:52
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Sounds of the
Bovedy fall
Hi List,when I return
Norbert,
Thank you...awesome response.
John
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From: "Bernd Pauli HD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "meteorite list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tafassasset classification
> Norbert Classen modestly wrote:
>
d a CR7?
John
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From: "fcressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Divelbiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Norbert Classen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bernd Pauli HD"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Svend Buhl" <[EMAI
Hello All,
Primitive is primitive!Help me to understand the differences please.
Is the argument about where the line(s) should be drawn between a chondrite
(that is "really" differentiated...like a 7) versus a primitive achondrite
(that is not quite differentiated enough to be called a a
Rob,
So that we can stay in touch with your efforts, tell us (me) where and how
to keep up with the listings on Yahoo. I am not familiar with the Yahoo
list.
As for easy money, well it is not easy for most of us, especially in the
time of need. Let us be kind and not attack one another. If one c
Bernd, Matteo and Brothers and Sisters of this list,
One year ago our country was savagely and cowardly attacked. It was my first
experience of a so-called war that hit me "close to home". I did not lose a
family member or friend, but I cried just the same. Living here in the
middle of the 3 site
ssage -
From:
meteorite1.com
To: John Divelbiss ; Bernd Pauli HD ; Radosevich, Dave
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:48
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bessey
comment
John Divelbiss wrote:
<discusses this issue from another field
coll
ses this issue from another field collectors point of view. I totally
agree and hope others will come forward to help this situation out. The link
is http://www.meteorite.fr/en/news/feature.htm
Thanx for your time and forgive me if you are offended,
John Divelbiss (BL #33)
IMCA2006
PS If no one
Mark,
If you look hard you will find dozens of decent sites that
will help one understand meteorites alot better. Also, Nortons new book goes
alot further than Rocks From Space, and it is filled with colored pictures
demonstrating the differences in their appearance. It is called The Cambri
Charlie, Tom and the gang,
I appreciate the comments. I plan on sending on the information I have...I'm
still debating whether I also send a "from the Collection of John Divelbiss"
along with it. I suppose if I don't have a card from the previous owner or I
cut up specimen
l he gains trust in the collectors? I've seen it both ways, but
for new guys guys like Shaun and I, "what is the recommended
practice?" I plan on selling some of my collection this fall,
so I'm looking for advice.
John Divelbiss
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From:
[EMA
f them. If it is real, it will be recognized in time. Thanx
for curious information.
One more opinion,
John Divelbiss
IMCA 2006
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From:
James_TOM Knudson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 4:44
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] F
Rob,
Thanx Rob...I'll have to read Rubin's book one day.
Sounds like the molten body aspect plays important role in this special
class of meteorites.
John
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From: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:59 PM
Sub
the Norton
book leads a novice like me down that path.
Wondering???
John Divelbiss
Reading, PA
IMCA 2006
#x27;m dreaming.
Good show...recommended to all...especially here in the east.
(Sunday is the last day)
Regards,
John Divelbiss
IMCA 2006
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:36
AM
Subject:
Tom,
Way to go...the guy just emailed me and said he looked at some meteorite
information and was convinced that the piece was not one. He thanked me for
my email. I had told him a fellow collector had spotted his piece on a
website.
I think we all can learn a lesson here. Lets get the word out
Tom,
I went ahead and emailed the guy. Encouraging him to find out why it is not
a meteorite by looking at websites or purchasing a book...such as Norton's
two.
John
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: [mete
Steve,
All I get is a Lycos page that says the webpage could not be found. Good
luck with you venture.
John Divelbiss
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From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:11 PM
Subject: [
Casper and Robert Haag looked at it for me...both encounters were
encouraging enough to learn the truth. We should do the same for these
finders/sellers of meteorwrongs.
John Divelbiss
Reading, PA
IMCA 2006
PS Thanx again to Micheal and Robert if you are out there...you showed great
patience back
them different in at least two ways.
I know the crust is ugly because I have a nice end piece. With those two
items in mind I'll agree that 904 is not paired with the others. But again
it is only my opinion here agreeing with you.
John Divelbiss
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From: "Ada
Pierre and Rob,
Thank you for responses about NWA 900 and 995. Melt, and not carbonacous for
900...that is cool too...since I really like melts. We all look forward to
more information on these. (Matteo...do you still think you have seen
achondrite clasts?...in another slice maybe?
Question...ha
n
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From: "almitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Divelbiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Matteo Chinellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "dean bessey"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday,
t it or not, relative to the price it is offered at ?".
Thanx again Al for response,
John Divelbiss
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From: "almitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Divelbiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Matteo Chinellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED
effects
in different locales?
Thanx for reading,
John Divelbiss
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From: "Matteo Chinellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "dean bessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: [meteo
Tim,
I'll guess the bottom one is a real meteorite. Maybe a 1947 SA?
The top specimen looks too "roundish". Hematite ore or something like it?
Hey...50/50 chance.
John Divelbiss
IMCA #2006
PS The 102 F (in the shade) we had here in Eastern Pennsylvania yesterday
was "
Jim/Mike,
Awesome stuff ! Thanx for your effort with
sharing photos from Vienna. Most of these individuals are very
special. The pictures alone are stunning. In person must have been a treat.
Thanx again.
John Divelbiss
Reading, PA
IMCA 2006
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joined by shock and pressure injection(of metal into stone).
Temperature must not been a major factor for the depth. Could a Portales and a
Sahara 98362 have formed in the same type of collision?
I would like more input on the particulars of 98362, if
possible.
John Divelbiss
- Origin
t I've actually sent it to all of you.
See below.
John Divelbiss
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From: "John Divelbiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holey Lunar Crusts!?
&
ussed lately.
Help...will someone please provide more insight into this very
strange meteorite?
Thanx in advance,
John Divelbiss
ut it!)
...all adorn my collection without breaking the bank. It has been a great
time to collect during the past couple years. The African meteorties have been a
blessing to the common working man/collector.
Enjoy them,
John Divelbiss
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