goal. Thanks in advance for
your kindness and support.
Here’s the link:
https://gofund.me/f9ab5972<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gofund.me/f9ab5972__;!!OToaGQ!vvXs7Q2rid_nuUE9_3lB9kj-OiiuHZ0gs1quJIGbF69psJi8ng5FqS8cM6AD9h7XwDh8hY8RutmFd51VqEceK8_TjIi9muU$>
Thank you,
Nick
Ni
below...
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Nick
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It might be hard to imagine what a 55-foot diameter ball or rock would look
like.
I searched Google Images for a 50-foot anything, and came up with this, which
seemed fitting:
https://web.duke.edu/isis/gessler/meteorites/chelyabinsk.htm
;-)
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Back to the question of sharp protrusions, but from chondrites not irons...
Some sharp metal protrusions at Tucson:
Handling an OC at Tucson a blade of metal stuck in my hand and drew blood.
On closer examination it was apparently a shock melt surface which differential
erosion had left sharp and
Hello All,
Since this was a unique event, I've tried to ferret out as much of the
unedited
footage as possible, and have tried to avoid the compilations. At least the
40
I have found are getting closer to getting the originals, wherever they may
be.
Some were pointed to my list members;
Hi Rob et al,
I've spent several hours searching for different video footage of the
fireball, the smoke trail, the hole in the ice, etc.
First, can anyone point me to any scientific papers which attempt
to correlate:
a) the color of the smoky tail, and/or
b) the color of the fireball
with the
The vortices in the particle cloud are fantastic!
To get a better perspective, I stitched a panorama together.
https://web.duke.edu/isis/gessler/meteorites/chelyabinsk.htm
The videographer made several pans. This was a
quickie from the first complete pan.
Enjoy,
Nick
I put links to some of the videos members referred to
on one page:
https://web.duke.edu/isis/gessler/meteorites/chelyabinsk.htm
Not comprehensive, but perhaps convenient.
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Received from a friend:
About getting on-site – I am guessing that unless you happened to live right
under the
fall, you won’t get very close to it now! (Chelyabinsk was for decades a
“closed” city
because of all the nuclear and other sensitive installations. Also the most
polluted
city in
how it is put together.
Is there any possibility that someone can send me those two sections of the CD?
Hopefully,
Nick
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My personal take-home message:
A) BLM policy is not a bad thing for those of us who go into the field to
collect.
B) Those of us who do search and find should reciprocate by supporting
scientific research and education by reporting finds and donating samples.
I'm in the middle of grading student
Doug,
I fully agree with you...
Cheers, Nick
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Courses:
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Regarding the BLM's policy on Collection of Meteorites on Public Land posted
at:
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/regulations/Instruction_Memos_and_Bulletins/national_instruction/2012/IM_2012-182.html
I have written three emails of complaint to Lucia Kuizon, National
Paleontologist and
should take time to document our experiences with the BLM and meet
at Tucson to draft a response?
Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D.
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I think if we work together we can make some changes:
I just wrote to the editor of MAPS suggesting that it was time for a rejoinder
to Schmitt's article.
I also suggested that I will put my 18 students on the task of data-mining the
Meteoritical Data
Base for information on who found what, who
meteorites
from NC, please let me know. I'd like to have some on hand to show to
my students.
It's been close to 80 years since anyone has come across a meteorite
in North Carolina. If we are lucky, we can update the listings for that
state.
Thanks,
Nick
Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D.
nick.gess
look into this...
Cheers,
Nick
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Thanks to Ruben Garcia and everyone on the 99th Anniversary hunt for an
enjoyable and enlightening weekend. I've uploaded images of a number of the
smallest finds collected by me and the ants. Collecting
soil samples at regular intervals, washing them through standard screens,
separating the
Steve #1,
Great!
Stock up while you can!
Some are better than others, but you can't beat 'free.
I'd encourage you to make your own 3D images...
Sorry for reposting, but if you didn't see how, check this out :
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/geog/gessler/topics/stereo.htm
You can do it with an
Hi All,
I had my students working with PhotoShop to make 3D images.
You don't need a special camera, just take two photographs about 15
degrees apart.
For more depth, make the spread larger. For less, make it smaller.
You don't need to keep the separation to the distance between your eyes.
My French is not that good and I didn't have time to click through
the whole story, but what I did see looked great!!!
Congratulations to the authors and artists!!!
Nick
At 12:36 PM 7/21/2008, Martin Altmann wrote:
That is almost unreal.
http://www.meteorites.bw.qc.ca/meteorites1/index.html
Oops, I sent this directly to Greg, but intended to send it to the
list as well...
Hi Greg,
Bond 527 (available at Michael's) is a good reversible glue.
You can dissolve it with acetone. But be aware, acetone is not friendly.
In the museum conservation field, reversibility is what you're
Hi Dean,
Diamond bits.
They come in all sizes, use with lots of water...
I might have some around, but you can get them at most gem and jewelery shows
and certainly at Tucson. I may have some around. Try looking at the
websites for
Dremel and Fordham tools...
What I'd like to find are some
in the area to work with...
Cheers,
Nick
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Maybe Sunday...
Nick
At 09:47 PM 5/16/2008, Moni Waiblinger wrote:
Hi All,
don't forget the
West Coast Gem Mineral Show (Spring), Costa Mesa, CA
http://www.mzexpos.com/westcoast_spring.htm
is on this weekend.
Meteorites always present!
Anyone wandering out there?
Nick Gessler, Rob
Hi All,
Have any dates been settled for Tucson meteorite events?
The party? The auction(s)? The focus of meteoric activities?
I'm trying to work in a visit along with a heavy teaching schedule.
I'm sure others are trying to make plans too...
Best wishes to all...
Nick
A friend, Fred Brandes on the Cryptocollectors list, has figured out how
eBay constructs the new bidder ID codes for high priced items. It keeps
the robots away but anyone in the community can figure it out.
Here is his analysis with my notes in (parentheses):
Cheers,
Nick
Robin,
I spent about a week revisiting known localities there
and found nothing. In fact, I was rather suspicious of
the localities that I did visit. The just didn't look right,
and from my recollection, they were all made in the
same season.
So, I'm afraid I cannot be of much help. It would
Hello All,
I read Mike's post.
It's one of the few posts that I did read.
And I chose to read it because of the subject line.
Those who didn't want to read it didn't have to...
I'd like to hear about what's going on among those who think they've
found a treasure.
It's better to be forewarned
Hello All,
I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the
identity of all bidders
in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made
one feel like he
was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam
didn't bid high
enough, was part of the fun of
Thanks Mike,
I'll put Rob Chesnut on my schist list and look forward to
getting him to talk about more than his bottom line.
He provides the typical top-down PR line of BS.
Nowhere does he say anything about diminishing the community
of buyers and bidders who once actually talked to one another
Does anyone know what meteorite dealers will be at Costa Mesa?
Sadly, it seems there are fewer and fewer every year...
I'll probably go down on Friday.
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I will be at McDonalds at 10:00 with Walter Krstulja who wants to get
into meteorites.
Looking forward to seeing you!
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You will win if your bid is high enough!
Why not snipe the good old fashioned way - by hand?
I am rarely not successful...
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Sniping 210:
Snipe bidding is hardly for folks with yardsale mentality.
Snipe bidding is not necessarily to the buyer's advantage.
Hi ticket items, in the thousands, are often bought by snipe bidders.
Check out the history of the bidders in an auction you're really interested in.
Many of the
Hello List,
I'm headed to Sweden for two weeks to give a couple of lectures on computer
simulation.
But it would be nice to meet some folks in Sweden interested in meteorites.
Maybe even hunt some Swedish dry lakes! (;-) hah!)
Or maybe some conveyor-belt glaciers? (that's more likely)
Cheers,
Some old memories of WD-40 from my museum conservation days.
But you had better check these out with from source:
It is made from fish oil.
It contains a lacquer, which remains after the oils depart, which might be
helpful for meteorite preservation but
which gums up fine lubricating jobs like
Yes Lars, there is something TERRIBLY WRONG with your webpage.
It destroys all the usual IE control features and the only way to kill it
is Ctrl/Alt/Del.
It is also very disconcerting to have to scroll HORIZONTALLY.
Please fix it...
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Send me the dust.
I'm saving it for a rainy day (no, strike that, it's raining).
I'm saving it until I can figure out what to do with it.
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Hi,
Yes, wind faceted (wind and sand ablation) seems to be the key feature of
relevance. If you look at photos of the alleged meteorite found on Mars,
it contains quite a few facets. And the ridges between the facets are very
sharp. I have seen hard quartzite and flint-like rocks on deserts
Wow! This is a much more convincing photo. Is there a HiRez color closeup?
In this image, you don't see the facets and ridges so clearly as in the
earlier one.
Most interesting...
Nick
At 06:29 PM 1/19/2005, Dave Schultz wrote:
Hello Ron. What a cool color picture that is. Is
there a
I have no trouble capturing, printing, editing any size photo in PhotoShop.
I'd just like to see a color image with the resolution of the first BW image.
I'd like to see it in the resolution they receive it in.
It's likely that the ones released for public consumption are lower Rez.
Are they?
Nick
Hello All,
I got tired of looking at the black-and-white and color photos of the
Martian Meteorite in separate windows.
So I brought them together, fiddled with them and created a 3d Stereo image.
Great fun!!!
Have a look:
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/geog/gessler/topics/martian-meteorite.htm
I
Back to the ventifact markings on the Martian rock...
There is no a priori reason why an iron meteorite can't be ventifacted.
I have never seen one though...
I have seen ventifacted chondrites - no sharp delineations...
But has anyone ever seen a ventifacted iron here on Earth?
If so, can you link
Hi Jeff, et all,
Looking closely at the new odd rock (aka meteorite) on Mars, I'm struck
by what appear to be very clearly delineated ventifact markings. I have
seen this a lot in certain desert localities. They are oriented, as one
would expect from a desert wind (e.g. the rock sits
Yes, in the US a 0 should precede the decimal point. Precisely so the
decimal point won't be missed.
And the sooner we switch to metric the better, unless you like to divide
and multiply by 12, 14, 16, 3, 36, 5270, and the like.
Or like to add 13/16, 5/8, 45/64 and 1/7...
Dividing and
Hi Jeff, et al,
Regarding a repository of photos, I too think it would be extraordinarily
useful.
To this end, I noticed that Marvin Kilgore has a book in press to partially
satisfy this need.
It would be nice to have some professional reviews of it.
Jeff, Alan, are you game?
Marvin had a galley
upload pics there.
All I can say is: USE IT, FOLKS.
Bernhard
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I'll probably arrive at Costa Mesa Friday before 10:00.
Anyone else going?
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Hi,
I have several of these. The ablation and flow lines are interesting,
especially in the plugs, and well worth having for comparative
purposes. However, the flow lines are in a resin coating of the plug
(which is very light weight), not in metal. Re-entry speeds of artificial
satellites
This would be a good idea. So would archiving all of eBay's meteorite
auctions. However, it's an enormous task: Let's see...
400 auctions per week times 52 weeks is around 20,000. Times 10 years, is
about 200,000. With 300x400 images or 100k pixels times 3 bytes per pixel
is 300k bytes per
Three things to think about:
1) Until the labs start increasing their throughput, it will be necessary
to make informed guesses.
A rose, by any other name, is still a rose.
2) Did naming irregularities cause the fall in meteorite prices? How about
the over-supply of meteorites and a bad
An official price guide would be the LEAST fair solution.
Can you imagine the pressures the publishers would be under by those who
would want to FIX prices?
The market is already being manipulated much more than many of us would like.
No thanks...
If someone wants to attempt something like this,
Yes, it seems early to ask, but can someone tell me the prime dates for
meteoritical events?
I've heard it's February 4 - 5 (Friday - Saturday) .
Unfortunately, I have to make plans now so I'm hoping some agenda has been set.
Cheers,
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Hi All,
Anyone know how to write Meteorite in Mandarin and Pinyin?
Cheers,
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Chicago STeve,
Yup. I found three pieces of one at Primm with the official name of Roach:
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~gessler/aerolites.htm
(Sorry for the bad photo).
Alan said it looked like it had fallen a few days before we picked it up.
I would say that I recovered 1/2 to 2/3 of it.
Spent days
Hello List,
I'll be going to Peking / Beijing sometime next month.
I wonder if we have any readers in Peking / Beijing?
If anyone knows any meteorite contacts there they would be willing to
share, please email me off line.
If you are reading this in Peking / Beijing and would like to meet, please
I remember visiting a dry lake valley in Nevada loaded with tons of magnetite.
Looked just like this. In fact, I have a few pieces in my yard.
Cutting into it or trying to break off a chunk with a hammer should be
revealing:
Brittle - easy to cut or break - slate black interior - magnetite.
Hi IMCA members and non-members:
Bob has hit the nail on the head!
Just what does displaying the IMCA logo mean or guarantee?
I have not seen this addressed on the IMCA list, so it looks like he
discussion falls here.
It seems to me that displaying the IMCA logo should obligate members to
Has anyone any photos of the original mass that was pulled out of the
pond?
(Was it 'furnace shaped'? per chance)
Mark Ford
There are photos in their multipage color brochure.
Probably also on their website:
http://pallasite.ru/
(No time to scan the photos at the moment...)
Cheers,
Nick
Has anyone any photos of the original mass that was pulled out of the
pond?
(Was it 'furnace shaped'? per chance)
Mark Ford
Here's a big picture:
http://pallasite.ru/img/stone/Shir.jpg
There are photos in their multipage color brochure.
Probably also on their website:
http://pallasite.ru/
(No
Yes, diamond core bits are available for taking scientific samples for
analysis. I have used them with a standard power drill and water on
meteorites.
Bore in, break off the core. Cut off the fusion crusted end.
Fill the hole and cover it with the fusion crusted end.
You can then easily texture
Yes, what is an anti-sniping service.
Is the idea to overwhelm the server with incremental bids so that the
snipe can't get in edgewise?
Another voice in praise of sniping.
I use it quite a lot and it often works...
I suppose you might consider it a shock and awe tactic.
It might catch other
Hi Frank,
Yes indeed, that would be worth repatriating!
There must be more stuff like the LDG scarab around, at least beads...
Any other pointers?
Nick
At 08:14 PM 6/10/2004, fcressy wrote:
Hello Nick,
So what is the fanciest LDG artifact in existence?
I would guess that it's the scarab in King
Keith,
Don't be so quick to twist what I and others said to fill your needs.
It is also naive not to know the difference between de facto and de jur.
That is all that most of the people posting were pointing out.
De jur does not necessarily guarantee the conservation of
anything. There are many
Keith,
You seem to like to shift attention by misquoting.
I made no claims about what is legal and what is not legal.
I did make a claim that there is a higher authority than some legislation.
That higher authority comes from people who make workable laws for the
greater good, the conservation of
Keith,
Keith, if you think this was fun I suggest you go bother some other list.
This list is for serious discussion, considered arguments and good natured
humor.
Your contributions on this topic were none of these.
Do it again? More of the same? Forget it!
For those who want to read the
Don't we have better things to worry about than whether Libya is going to
spend $100s or $1000s to repatriate EACH chip, flake or blade of Libyan
Desert Glass? If anyone has a piece of pressure-flaked Libyan Desert Glass
shaped into the silhouette of a priest (like some exquisite Mexican
I heard that NASA was buying ferrite core memory.
And I believe it to be true.
Nick
At 07:44 AM 5/23/2004, MarkF wrote:
Hi All
get ot, but the rumor was that NASA was on ebay, buying all the xt chips
they could..something about hardened chips and thats what most of the
onboard puters ran on...paid
While we're at it, what's the difference between a 3 and a 3.0?
Does a 3 imply that no one made any finer discrimination?
Or does a 3 imply that it's really a 3.0?
Cheers,
Nick
At 08:23 AM 4/14/2004, Jörn Koblitz wrote:
Dear Pierre,
I've got a (stupid ?) question about the classification of
the
At 08:35 PM 5/11/2004, Michael Farmer wrote:
Who will
be attending? I will be there on Friday and Saturday.
Mike Farmer
I'll be there...
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Steve,
The Sherbinator never did respond to my email offering expertization either
at my home or with the crew at UCLA.
A year to get it checked out? Maybe a year to get a real meteorite
characterized,
but a lot of meteor-wrongs can be identified in a few minutes!
Nick
At 04:28 PM 5/10/2004,
Dear All,
I don't post much on this list because I really don't care for the
continual squabbles.
I would like to stay friends with Adam, Greg, Dean, Mike and most everyone.
Did Dean claim his recent posting was a Lunar?
I don't think so...
To quote him in full context:
The nomad that I bought
Hi,
I have tried to send email to several persons at the Meteoritical Society.
They all have been returned as invalid addresses.
Their general format is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the like.
Could some MetSoc Officer please take notice and pass this problem on to
the webmaster?
Thanks,
Nick
Can someone make an effort to get the documents concerning this case
digitized and uploaded to the Web? A lot of work, I know. But I think a
lot of us with computers, and without Faxes, would like to read them in
French...
Cheers,
Nick
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Hey Folks,
There seems to be a HUGE misunderstanding on this list about the term
conservation.
I am referring to the term conservation in the museum context.
I thought that was clear when I mentioned conserving archeological and
ethnographic items.
I thought that was clear when I mentioned the
Hello All,
As a slight digression from a post on the aims of the IMCA,
I'd like to initiate some discussion on meteorite conservation.
I used to be a museum director/curator and conservator of conventional
archaeological and ethnographic items.
I know there has been some discussion on meteorite
Well said.
Nick G.
At 12:47 AM 2/17/2004, mark ford wrote:
Look,
IF Matteo is breaking(en) the IMCA rules, that is a matter for the IMCA
board, (which btw this list is nothing to do with)
If people feel that strongly about him, then they should complain on
mass to the IMCA, not keep posting
Tim,
You forgot numbers 13, 14 and 15:
13. I secretly wish that a meteorite would plunge through the roof
of my house, turning it into a celestial shrine.
14. I secretly wish that a meteorite would plunge through my car,
turning it into a vehicle for extraterrestrial travelers.
15. I have
As they say, figures don't lie, but liars (and wishful thinkers) do figure.
Sounds like the Frass meteorite, revisted.
Even the name, MasFrank, sounds similar.
And the tactics of getting politicians on board...
Cheers,
Nick
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Wow, I thought I could cope with the dangers of meteorite hunting compared
to milk-toast fossils...
Now I have to search for safe ways of chiseling ammonites out of the bedrock:
Andrei, writing about the Vitim Bolide Event, says: Local residents, who
have a lot of experience in mining
hunt.
Otherwise you'll have to catch me at the show or at:
Motel 6
1031 East Benson Highway
Should be driving in from LA - arriving Thursday evening - leaving Tuesday
morning.
Looking forward to seeing old friends again...
Cheers,
Nick
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UCLA Human Complex Systems Program
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Aziz Habibi,
Please DO NOT quit this list.
It is important that we hear from people where meteorites are found.
As a professional anthropologist AND an amateur meteorite hunter/collector,
let me say that we do appreciate your comments...
Best wishes,
Nick, Ph.D.
Nicholas Gessler, Ph.D.
UCLA
With any luck, I'll be there too...
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OK, so I may have the dates really fowled up!
When is the Costa Mesa Show?
I have a flier that says Nov. 13-15, 2004.
Did I miss it?
Is the year wrong?
Someone please straighten me out...
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I decided to call the Holiday Inn in Costa Mesa @ 714-557-3000
The West Coast Gem Mineral Show is Friday Saturday 10-7, Sunday 10-5,
November 14-16, 2003.
So who-all is going to be there?
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