Dear Fellow Meteorite Enthusiasts,
I also received my copy of Kevin's new book, The Art of Collecting
Meteorites, a few days ago, and what can I say? It's an engulfing read, and
I simply couldn't put down the book until I arrived at its last page. My
congrats, and BIG thanks to Kevin for a real
Hi Matteo, Michael, Mike, and All,
Now, let's see what you call affordable... Both, the DaG 489, and 670 main
masses should have 1kg +, i.e. 1000g at $200/g:
DaG 489, main mass, estimated at 1,500g x $200/g = US$ 300,000
DaG 679, main mass, estimated at 1,000g x $200/g = US$ 200,000
Compaired
Hi Rob, Martin, and List,
May I politely disagree ;-? To my eyes, Mike's new stone is only remotely
similar to Dhofar 025, and its pairings - these are brown, and heavily
weathered rocks that landed on our planet about 250,000 years ago (the
oldest lunar found up to this day). Mike's find looks
are constantly trying to fool other people?
STILL waiting for you to take your page offline, and for your public
statement regarding the multitude of the questions you avoided to answer.
Regards,
Norbert Classen
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Hi All,
I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Bruno Carine.
They are having problems to post to the list, and thus they
asked me for assistance. Please read below.
BTW, I believe their message to be of major importance to
us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples to spoil our
hobby - so
Hi Bernd, and All,
I can assure you that this is no joke - I never would joke
around with these things, and neither would Bruno Carine.
Have a look at the Pellisons website, and now imagine that
they are selling this crap to the media, and to institutions
that know nothing about meteorites, such
Richard and Roland Pelisson, All,
Richard and Roland Pelisson wrote:
And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why does he needs to
write through N. Classen and not with his own email ?
This is ridiculous - I explained it in my initial post to the list.
Once again, for your records, I
ask for my personal opinion as a meteorite collector, and
IMCA member I'll be glad to share my thoughts. But I can't speak
for the Board so you'll have to wait for a communique, or whatever
we'll come up with.
Anyway, thanks for speaking up. We appreciate your input.
Best,
Norbert Classen
IMCA
Hi All,
I'm recently trying to contact Darryl Pitt, but none of
his old email addresses seems to work (neither @rcn.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], nor his old @aol address works). Does
anyone have a more recent contact? Any help would be
appreciated very much. Thanks in advance!
Best,
Norbert
Hi Bernhard, Matt, and All,
Registered mail packages don't get lost - you'll have to start an
official inquiry, and you'll find out where the package is. That's
at least my experience.
BTW, I only send registered (national, and international) for two
reasons: If I don't send my specimens
Hi Rob, and All,
Wow, you really know what's going on. Most of the Dhofar, SaU, DaG,
and HaH finds are documented, i.e., we have the exact find locations
and find circumstances on record, published in the Meteoritical
Bulletin, and these data can be accessed by anyone who has the desire
to do so.
Hi Bob Bernd,
Maybe the Martian Maniac (aka Lunatic) can help where
Herr Lehrer's Schulweisheit fails ;-))
In Charles Meyer's Mars Meteorite Compendium - 2003
I found the following passage regarding the terrestrial
age of Lafayette:
Using C14, Jull et. al. (1993, 1997) originally
determined a
Well Bob, and Fellow Collectors,
Would you also sell us samples of DaG 479 as samples of DaG 735? Or
samples of SaU 008 as SaU 125? Just because they are most probably
paired? I guess you realize that this would be wrong AND fraudulent.
Why don't you just get that it's also obviously wrong to
Hi Dave Persidious Freeman All,
I guess the meteor shower was named for the star constellation of
Perseus, just as the leonids were named for the constellation of Leo
(lion), the geminids for Gemini (twins), etc.
BTW, Perseus wasn't a Greek explorer but a mythical hero - you may
look it up in
Dear Fellow Meteorite Enthusiasts,
Bruno Carine are still encountering problems with their
mailserver, and are unable to post to the list, directly.
They asked me to forward the following message to you, and
I can only recommend to have a look at their great new
pages. I've never seen such
Hello Everybody,
I'm forwarding this email on behalf of Bruno Carine who
aren't able to get throught to the list directly. It contains
important information, and I recommend everyone to read it
since it's affecting most of us. Thanks.
All the best,
Norbert
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Dear
Hi there,
Seems that everybody is already set up for Tucson, or
fighting with some elusive terrorists / NWA conspiracy
theories. Good. And maybe better for some who are not,
and who didn't hit the delete key too fast.
I have a few neat auctions ending tomorrow (Feb. 1,
at about 16:20 PST),
First it was plundering, now it is supporting terrorism?
Please give us a break! BTW, what millions of dollars
are you talking about? Do you really think that the small
meteorite market is carrying millions of dollars to
Morocco (or to some elusive Algerian NWA meteorite funded
contrabands and
Hi All,
I'm forwarding this link from the German meteorite list.
Obviously, the first real meteorite individuals from the
recent Spanish fall (January 4) have been recovered -
looks like the real McCoy:
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2004/01/20/ciencia/1074627508.html
Here's a Google
Hi Charlie, and List,
Where did you get this interesting piece of information?
From what I've heard so far it's legal for private parties
to collect meteorites in Antarctica, but only if they are
submitted to the respective Antarctic meteorite working
groups, afterwards. That's at least what I
Hi there,
I have a few neat auctions ending tomorrow (Sunday,
Jan. 18, at about 18:00 PST), three large LL specimes
(incl. the ultra-rare LL3.9 DaG 180, a LL4, and a
fresh LL4-6 breccia), listed with no reserve. Even if
you don't intend to bid, have a look at these beauties:
Hi Mark, John, and List,
Since Eric already addressed an error in the first answer regarding
the absolute ages of Martian, and lunar meteorites, let me address an
error in the second answer:
Q: How long have these planetary meteorites been on earth?
A: Probably all less than 25,000 years. So
Hi John, and List,
If you hadn't added the word classic I would have
placed the new lunar Dhofar 908 on nr. one, for obvious
reasons. Doesn't matter, there are also lots of great
classic meteorites, and here's my Top 10:
1. Chassigny (martian dunite, and witnessed fall)
2. Nakhla (martian
OOOhppps, you're certainly right - how could I forget
the great oriented nakhlite Lafayette!? Of course, it
should be included in my Top 10, just have to think
about where exatly ;-)
Thanks to Dave and Charlie for the heads up.
Best,
Norbert
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Hey Norbert!
Hi Adam, and List,
Looks like an awefully weathered, and highly serpentinized chondrite
to me, although this doesn't fully explain the distinct layers (?) that
can be seen in this specimen. The photo isn't too good, and maybe the
layers are in fact schlieren that often look a bit like sedimentary
Hi there,
Seems that everybody is enjoying their holidays. Good.
And maybe better for some who are not, and who didn't
hit the delete key too fast.
I have a few neat auctions ending tomorrow (Nov. 30,
at about 18:00 PST), including 1.5g (yes, one-and-a-
half gram!) of lunar material, listed with
Dear Ron, and List,
It should be noted that this is a VERY special find - the first
non-Antarctic Martian lherzolite/peridotite! That's the problem
with the term shergottite - we mostly think of basalts when we
hear it. But a lherzolite has not much in common with a basalt,
and if we compare the
Hello Fellow Collectors,
First, I'd like to thank Walter, Elton, Adam, and
all the others who contributed to this fascinating
thread!
Most of you know my bad habits since I outed
myself as a self-confessed lunatic, and martian
maniac, before. I just updated my list of lunar
meteorites, and
Hi Mark, and List,
I'm not just focussed on planetaries, but also on
other achondrites, and especially the strange and
beautiful ones. NWA 1000 certainly qualifies in
both categories, since it's a really unusul, and
highly shocked eucrite resembling a shergottite
more than any other eucrite I
Hi John, and list,
As to the ungrouped HaH 180, and Deakin 001, it has been suggested
that both represent samples of a new and previously unsampled parent
body. If that holds to be true, they will never get a LL or L
classification. Ungrouped just means that a sample can't be
assigned to any of
On Oct. 17, 2003, Martin Altmann wrote:
Please don't delete the message and take a look on this auction,
even when you hate ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2197271212
THE DEAL IS SIMPLE: You get a good sized piece of a rare Moon rock
(0.292gm, not a speck!) and
Hello Everybody,
I have 5 lunar auctions ending on eBay, on Sunday,
Oct. 12, at about 18:00 PDT (that is in approx. 24
hours). Some of these are real museum pieces at
down-to-earth prices, and the weight is listed
properly in the title line (just as a note to the
eBay police).
Even if your not
Sterling, John, and List,
Hmmm, maybe it isn't a scam at all ;-? I'm not saying that I
believe in Jovian meteorites, but I know that people can
easily misunderstand any information about meteorites. The
letter states:
During a conversation with her, one of the meteorites was
identified as coming
Hi Dave, hi list,
Here's a piece of evidence that might answer your question:
http://www.timewarp.de/new/Ensis2003a.jpg
The picture was taken after the opening of this years
Ensisheim fair, Alsace, France (right in front of the
Regency Palace). To the right, you'll spot the famous
Meteor beer
eucrite.
If you like, have a look at:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=ivuna
Or do a search for my eBay user handle ivuna.
Thanks for your interest - enjoy the high-res
pictures.
Best,
Norbert Classen
PS: All of my auctions are just for raising funds for
other
Hi Jose, Tom, and all,
Jose asked:
But why the N1? Could the 1 (or a vertical line) be there to help
place the cube correctly in order to avoid confusion with a Z?
And what about the S1 (or a vertical line)?
Again, it's rather simple - it's a point of reference for the photos
that are
Hi Sergey, Mark, and List,
Now I think I finally got the true meaning of Panspermia ;-))
Great picture that really could have served as a model for all
of these banners; thanks for sharing!
Best,
Norbert
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Thanks Mike and Rob,
That's probably the solution. In Meteorites and Their Parent
Bodies H. McSween also lists 6 Hebe as one of the most probable
candidates to be the PB of the H chondrites. Now, but that also
means that they found a small ordinary chondrite in Israel. No
big deal in a desert
Hi all,
There's another paragraph in this article that kindled my
interest. Quote:
A member of the vehicle's team, Gabriel Shaked, who was
one of the people who discovered the stone, said yesterday
that the test showed that it was a fragment of Asteroid
HAVH-6, a rocky heavenly object that
there, and didn't even mind to send in their
suggestions and ideas (I know that some of you did!), don't
blame the NomCom, or the developing system of nomenclature.
If you don't raise your voice when it's time to do so, don't
expect to be heard in the future.
All the best,
Norbert Classen
Hi there,
(DELETE if you hate eBay ;-)
I just wanted to let you know that I have some
really nice auctions ending during the next few
hours, a lot of rare and ungrouped stuff (some
never offered before), plus neat specimens of
Ibitira (the unique unbrecciated and vesicular
eucrite), as well as a
Hi Walter, Bob, and List,
The German term would be Scheinmeteorit - alles klar ;-?
However, Schrecklicheschlackestienen sounds familiar, too,
although you won't find it in any dictionary...
Best regards from good old Germany,
Norbert
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Hello List Members, and AOL Users,
I received the following message from a member, off-list:
I can't access your website. I get the message FORBIDDEN
from AOL!!
I checked our server, and I can't find any restrictions on
our side. Maybe it's just the security settings of that
member, but
Salam Mr. Yousef, Hello List,
Since you're directly linking to a site that I created on behalf
of Bruno and Carine (www.meteorite.fr), I feel urged to make a few
comments about your so-called bencubbinites, and about the proper
classification of your finds. For those list members who aren't
Hello Bernd and List,
First, I'd like to thank you all for the congratulations on my
article that I received on and off list. It's been a real pleasure
to write this piece for Joel's great magazine, and I hope that
I didn't went too far in spreading my enthusiasm for lunar rocks,
and other
prepared for these auctions.
If you're into type 3 stuff and chondrules, you will love
these photos.
Have a great weekend, and a Happy New Year!
Best,
Norbert Classen
IMCA #7606
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Hi Fellow Enthusiasts,
I justed wanted to let you know that several of
my Ebay auctions will be ending in about 24 hours,
including several rare type 3 chondrites (H3.9,
LL3.9, L3.2, UNG3.5) at real bargain prices - some
still at $1 without reserve. There's other nice and
rare stuff, too. Take a
Hello everybody,
I justed wanted to let you know that several of
my Ebay auctions will be ending today at Ebay.com
and Ebay.de, including some rare and low-priced
stuff without reserve. For example, DaG 222, one
of the finest LL5-6 breccias, thin slices of the
ungrouped type 3.5 chondrite HaH
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tafassasset
Regards
Matteo
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Hello Bernd, Svend, Anne, and List,
I discussed this subject several times with my old
friend Dr. Otto,
the German researcher who did the original analysis
on Tafassasset
(Freiburg), a stone that was originally submitted
Hi Eric, hi Listees,
In fact, they will be filming at Neuschwanstein, but they intend
to go beyond that recent fall. Of course, the Neuschwanstein fall
triggered a public interest for meteorites in the German media,
but that's not all there is to it. They realized that there are
people who study
Hi Ivan,
A great photo report, and fabulous specimens! Congratulations!
Now, that's what I call a tough area for meteorite hunting...
Best,
Norbert
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There are just few simple views images of Kainsaz area:
http://photos.yahoo.com/finmet2000
Greetings,
Ivan
Hello all,
Recently, a friend of mine, a German meteorite hunter,
has been asked by a TV team if they could accompany him
on one of his hunting trips for one of their educational
channels. My friend wanted to take them to Oman or Libya,
his favourite hunting grounds, first, but this seems to
be
Hi Robert, Svend, and Listees,
I agree on Robert Szep's take on the status of most central
African countries, and I'm pretty sure that no team of the
German national TV would take the risk to go out there just
for an educational shoot about meteorite hunting. They even
ruled out Oman and
Hi Randy,
I only had good experiences with Russ Kempton, and his NEMS - Russ
is certainly one of these silent giants in this business, a real
man of class. Did he send you the micros via registered or via
regular mail? Maybe it's indeed a problem within the US postal
service...
Best,
Norbert
Hi Tom, hi List,
You asked:
One thing that has not been answered is, there
is some thing in this meteorite that looks just
like the metal, But, it is just a shade off! It
is shiny, you can only see it when you see the
metal!(the same angle to the light) strait on it
looks a little
is like his Nantans - his
brain is rusting away from the inside. He's certainly no
IMCA member, is he?
Best,
Norbert Classen
IMCA #7606
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Theif replies/ Jake
hi all; I just received the following email from THE THIEF...look at his
reply
still accepting reasonable offers.
Don't be shy - I need to raise some cash for other
lunar rocks ;-))
Norbert Classen aka The Lunatic
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David observed:
this week i found out that moon rocks have a black
crust with a green tint and often have vesicles
Hello David
a schiller, Thomas is probably right - if not, it's most probably
a serpentinite. Anyway, it's a most beautiful rock!
Jim, will I get a slice for free if it turns out to be a highly
metamorphosed Martian peridotite/lherzolite ;-? Only half joking...
Best,
Norbert Classen
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,
Norbert Classen
Rob Verish wrote---
NWA 011 has an oxygen isotope ratio that indicates it
came from a body larger than a big asteroid.
Okay. This article explains to me why this meteorite
came from a body larger than an asteroid. But it
doesn't explain how the other planet
Title: The Brustseite
Hi
Martin, Hi All,
Archie
is surely nice, although maybe a little bit too "weathered", for my taste. My
favourite
is Bob
Haag's "Venus Stone" - see Bob grabbing a cast of it at:
http://www.meteoriteman.com/inventory/misc.htm
It
looks more "fresh", doesn't it ;-?
Hey,
that's easy: Laurie Anderson, Song: "Ramon", Album: "Strange Angels" - one of my
favourites, too...
Best,
Norbert
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trammellGesendet: Freitag, 29. März 2002 19:22An:
it is, but I suspect that
it might be either troilite or schreibersite.
Best,
Norbert Classen
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I have a 27 gram Brahin pallasite (not etched) that has what
looks like a troilite inclusion. The inclusion is sort of
greyish-brown and darker than the surrounding metal
Michael Cottingham's new
brachinite NWA 595 seems to be quite similar to the
antarctic ALH 84025. Nevertheless, NWA 595 is a rarity
when you consider that there are only seven distinct
brachinites up to date.
Kind regards,
Norbert Classen
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Also, on page 208
it checked
for traces of canine DNA ;-? Nice detective work by both of you; most
appreciated!
My vote: In dubio pro canem ;-))
Best,
Norbert Classen
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regards,
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[meteorite-list] Is This Lunar?
Hi Bernd, hi Vince, and listeners,
I think Vince just forgot to add the html to his link,
so try this one ;-)
http://users.skynet.be/meteorite.be/keskecest.html
Especially the ME08 looks nice and has a good chance to
qualify as a meteorright - however, don't ask me what kind
of meteorite it
-to-date list of all
known Martian meteorites that can be found at:
http://www.meteorite.fr/en/classification/SNC-group.htm#List
Enjoy!
Best regards,
Norbert Classen
Hello Robert and all,
From Ron Baalke's website (link below) it looks like there are 19 Mars
meteorites. See http
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