Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-16 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Hmmm! sounds like what I've been led to BELIEVE. Jerry - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design Dear List, There i

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-13 Thread tett
pe, to God ;>), he is wrong, or at least that this will not include Canada. Cheers, tett Owen Sound, Ontario From: "Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "meteorite list" Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolutio

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-13 Thread Jamie
I'm having a difficult time understanding how the idea of God and evolution can not co-exist. It is almost like if you believe in God, you must also believe creationism, or if you believe evolution as fact, you can not believe in God. Perhaps there are other definitions of intelligent design, but

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-13 Thread Marc Fries
Howdy There is drastic, deep and fundamental conflict between evolution and intelligent design. To be brief, intelligent design requires the magical intervention of a deity. That's exactly what it is - magic. It has no place in a science class. Evolution will probably never be proven. In

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-13 Thread JKGwilliam
Just my personal belief here, but I believe it was the egg that came first. Life begins in it's simplest form. JKG At 11:45 PM 5/12/2005, d freeman wrote: Ok, I bite, which came first, the chicken or the egg? DF drtanuki wrote: Mr. Gwilliam and List, It is the dreamers, the ones that ask "fooli

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-13 Thread Bill Southern
anyone has any proof either way lets discuss that rather than making generalities. Regards to all Phil Morgan - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 5:12 PM Sub

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread d freeman
Ok, I bite, which came first, the chicken or the egg? DF drtanuki wrote: Mr. Gwilliam and List, It is the dreamers, the ones that ask "foolish" questions, the searchers/seekers that find the answers. The ones that have all of the answers NEVER will make progress for mankind or themselves. Many t

RE: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Charles Viau
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:35:59 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Accept the fact that we are too primitive to comprehend the workings of the u

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread drtanuki
Mr. Gwilliam and List, It is the dreamers, the ones that ask "foolish" questions, the searchers/seekers that find the answers. The ones that have all of the answers NEVER will make progress for mankind or themselves. Many times the question is more important than the answer because the question

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread JKGwilliam
At 09:53 PM 5/12/2005, Darren Garrison wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:35:59 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Accept the fact that we are too primitive to comprehend the workings of the universe and go with the flow. No. _ It's this kind of narrow-minded stand that has put this issue where it is n

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:35:59 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Accept the fact that we are too primitive to comprehend the workings of the >universe and go with the flow. No. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread joseph_town
GOD, darren, Don't you just love words like opinion, theory, conjecture. I'm humbled by the process. Accept the fact that we are too primitive to comprehend the workings of the universe and go with the flow. Bill -- Original message -- From: Darren Garrison <[

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 12 May 2005 21:48:36 -0500, "Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >To me, intelligent design helps bridge the gap with those that believe in >God or a creator and who also see evolution as a scientific fact. But for intelligent design to "fit" with the fossil record would require a vast nu

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Jamie
I don't see how intelligent design can be put in the same category as creationism. My major in college was biology and I took an evolution course or two. I've seen some of the creationist's "theories" and I believe that science can disprove all of them quite easily. It was when I took cell biolo

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Phil Morgan
Hi Darren, Thanks for the clarification. Phil - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design On Thu, 12 May 2005 19:46

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 12 May 2005 19:46:34 -0600, "Phil Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hey Darren, >That was kind of mean-spirited. > >Let's see, if I believe in a God, I'm an inbred nitwit, but if I believe I didn't say that. I said that if you believe in a Young Earth you are an inbred nitwit. The p

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Phil Morgan
discuss that rather than making generalities. Regards to all Phil Morgan - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Lega

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread ks1u
I know this is a serious (though off topic) topic, however, I realized recently that I was letting the creationists annoy me too much. I thought back to the 70's, when people seemed to take things more in stride and with humor. I thought about the time Archie Bunker yelled to his son-in-la

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 12 May 2005 16:22:16 -0700 (PDT), drtanuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >weaknesses in Darwinian Evolution). Evolution lacks >total evidence (proof) and explanation in its argument >and yet is taught as scientific fact. I am looking Exact methods in the process of evolution are debatable,

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
y 12, 2005 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design > Sounds like Dirk baiting (or would that be D baiting??) > > > > drtanuki wrote: > > > Dear List, > > There is now a debate in the Kansas Courts (USA) &

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread drtanuki
Martin and List, That would make a good movie! I was thinking Woody Allen to be one of the Lawyers. Meow! Dirk Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html __ Meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Mouat
Uh Oh I knew this would happen. As I said to a friend who contacted me off list, Dirk is a great guy and probably tired of some of the other rantings in this List. I'm sure a lot of fellow Listees would say that this is off topic. I know you are very serious about this, but there are a lot of pe

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Martin Altmann
(paleontologist, but don't tell them that he was a jesuit!): Creation by Evolution. Creation in Evolution?? Buckleboo! Martin - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Kansas L

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread drtanuki
Dear Dave and List, I was, just now, watching Lou Dobbs on CNN and this was news to me. Dave, I don`t understand what D-baiting is. Historically Kansas was the center of the Scopes-Monkey Trial (Creationism vs. Evolution). An earlier thread on this list was about Transpermia (Panspermia). I

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Peterson
ent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design Dear List, There is now a debate in the Kansas Courts (USA) about what should be taught in schools, Creationism, Evolution or Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design i

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT), drtanuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear List, > There is now a debate in the Kansas Courts (USA) >about what should be taught in schools, Creationism, >Evolution or Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design >is a new paradigm that states that there was an

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation,Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Mouat
Sounds like Dirk baiting (or would that be D baiting??) drtanuki wrote: > Dear List, > There is now a debate in the Kansas Courts (USA) > about what should be taught in schools, Creationism, > Evolution or Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design > is a new paradigm that states that there was

[meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

2005-05-12 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, There is now a debate in the Kansas Courts (USA) about what should be taught in schools, Creationism, Evolution or Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design is a new paradigm that states that there was an Intelligence behind the design of the Universe and Creation of Life. What are the