Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-21 Thread Carl 's
Carl E. Did you ever get a response to your question on whether aubrites could possibly come from the Earth? Very interesting thoughts, to be sure, but I believe Sterling inferred that as a possibility.  I also believe his last sentence says it all, I guess. As a side note, if aubrites did co

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-19 Thread cdtucson
ion with the Bottke study is likely purely > hypothetical. In other words, a guess. There's nothing > you can say about nothing. > > > Sterling K. Webb > -- > - Original Message - >

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Sterling K. Webb
words, a guess. There's nothing you can say about nothing. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: "Jason Utas" To: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-l

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall-Non Vesta Eucrite

2009-09-18 Thread Jeff Grossman
I don't think there's a difference between any of these meteorites in terms of what we should call them. We just don't have consistent terminology in place. Ibitira, NWA 011, and, it appears, Bunburra Rockhole are all basaltic achondrites that seem to come from a separate parent body than oth

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Carl 's
Hi jason and Mike Fowler, It's been a privilege to be able to eavesdrop on your discussion on this other body eucrite. You have been most informative and professional. Thanks! Carl _ Micro

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jeff Kuyken
8:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall The fall actually happened in 2007, Meteoritical Bulletin: MB 95 <http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/docs/mb95.pdf> . I heard of it in February this year. The location is between Mundrabilla and Cook 001. Coordinates are 31° 21.0'S, 12

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall-Non Vesta Eucrite

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Fowler
After all, Ibitira's a "Eucrite," but NWA 011's an ungrouped achondrite. It's the chemical difference that seems to make the difference in nomenclature. Jason So Jason, I guess we can both agree that Bunburra Rockhole is a Eucrite, and that most Eucrites, but not all, come from Vesta. Mike

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
Good point; and seeing as such meteorites haven't been reclassified/re-typed, it seems as though this brings up a very valid flaw in the classification system of basaltic achondrites. Perhaps there are some scientists out there who can shed some light on why meteorites such as these are called Euc

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Fowler
And in case you didn't check the met-bull, the Bunburra Rockhole meteorite has been classified as a typical Eucrite. He stated that said meteorite is not from Vesta, but Eucrites are widely accepted to have come from Vesta. I suppose we don't have solid proof of that yet, but it is generally accep

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall-Non Vesta Eucrite

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
Well, oxygen isotopes are one thing, but orbital data would seem to be a strange way to classify a meteorite to me; given the past four and a half billion years of collisions, things have been far too 'messed up' in the inner solar system for that to mean much; we have comets present in stable orbi

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
And in case you didn't check the met-bull, the Bunburra Rockhole meteorite has been classified as a typical Eucrite. He stated that said meteorite is not from Vesta, but Eucrites are widely accepted to have come from Vesta. I suppose we don't have solid proof of that yet, but it is generally accept

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall-Non Vesta Eucrite

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Fowler
Additional information from a Scientific American link that says that the meteorite is not from Vesta, because the orbit is wrong, and the oxygen isotopes are different. http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=recovered-meteorite-points-to-an-un-2009-09-17 Mike

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Michael Fowler
And I think it might be interesting to note this article, where Dr. Philip Bland can be quoted as stating that Eucrites are not, in fact, from Vesta. Go figure. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/technology/6075299/rare-meteorite-found-in-outback/ Regards, Jason Jason, You were a little bit hasty o

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, Wha-la - Photos: http://www.eurekalert.org/multimedia/pub/16856.php http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,27574,26090814-2761,00.html And I think it might be interesting to note this article, where Dr. Philip Bland can be quoted as stating that Eucrites are not, in fact, from Vesta. Go f

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Carl 's
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Norbert & Heike Kammel
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Jerry Flaherty
FAR OUT! -- From: "Darren Garrison" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:51 PM To: Subject: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/rare-snapshot-of-solar-systems-dawn-20090918-fvcl.html Rare s

Re: [meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Matt Morgan
Looks like a nice eucrite. Similar to Camel Donga. Matt -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:51:04 To: Subject: [meteorite-list] New

[meteorite-list] New Australian fall

2009-09-18 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/rare-snapshot-of-solar-systems-dawn-20090918-fvcl.html Rare snapshot of solar system's dawn DEBORAH SMITH SCIENCE EDITOR September 19, 2009 CAMERAS set up in outback Australia to track fireballs across the night sky have led scientists to a rare meteorite