eorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions About NWA 7034,
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>
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> Dear John/Adam/List,
>
> I am greatly saddened to be dragged into what I can only assume is
> 'pol
ubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions About NWA 7034,
Dear John/Adam/List,
I am greatly saddened to be dragged into what I can only assume is
'politically' motivated debate.
For my part, I have never heard of this 3KG of Black Beauty, and it is
frankly farcical to suggest I am part of
Dear John/Adam/List,
I am greatly saddened to be dragged into what I can only assume is
'politically' motivated debate.
For my part, I have never heard of this 3KG of Black Beauty, and it is
frankly farcical to suggest I am part of a conspiracy to keep this off
market.
The linking of my few grams,
Nourddine, list, I agree with you. Thank you for your wisdom. I too have been
needlessly dragged through the coals on this list. It has been proven off-list
that the bad mouthing I was given was totally misguided but, It matters not.
The truth is , these actors have caused great harm to this li
I cannot better articulate what has been said by Dr Shea in his two earlier
responses on this topic.
It is not my nature to respond to such debates, but I do not feel justice is
being served here.
Repeating what John S said, I do not pretend to have the details of what
happened with John Higgins
Dear John/Adam/List,
I am greatly saddened to be dragged into what I can only assume is
'politically' motivated debate.
For my part, I have never heard of this 3KG of Black Beauty, and it is
frankly farcical to suggest I am part of a conspiracy to keep this off
market.
The linking of my few grams
Dear John/Adam/List,
I am greatly saddened to be dragged into what I can only assume is
'politically' motivated debate.
For my part, I have never heard of this 3KG of Black Beauty, and it is
frankly farcical to suggest I am part of a conspiracy to keep this off
market.
The linking of my few grams
Quite the Witch hunt “brewing” here...
I won’t pretend to have all the information about everyone’s issues with this
seller, but if there’s a legit gripe between two IMCA members concerning
something as sincere as fraud, then the metlist is certainly not the place to
deal with it.
Cheers,
John
I would like to know how this person got to be an IMCA member, and more
importantly how and why he still remains one after all these incidences of
misrepresentation and fraud have occurred?
Sent from Gary's iPhone
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:08 AM, John higgins via Meteorite-list
> wrote:
>
> La
Last time I checked the wholesale price of Black Beauty has always stayed above
$1000 per gram, any rumors of a stone being sold as Black Beauty for $100 is
likely a fake, just a fantasy.
And I have proven in the past that this seller in question is self pairing and
making illegimitate claims.
I have bought from the seller in question numerous times. He is very reliable,
after at least a dozen transactions...
As to whether or not people are willing to buy specimens that cost as much as
Black Beauty under the advertisement of a probable pairing, it is entirely up
to the buyer.
This i
List, Interesting Ebay listing. The seller shows an IMCA number 5743 and
guarantees authenticity with a certificate. Is that OK with the IMCA if a lab
has not certified it?
Carl
--
Love & Life
Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
> It looks like the Moroccans are letting out a little bit
It looks like the Moroccans are letting out a little bit at time of this
one. Let a small amount out, find out what it is and what it goes for
on the market, and then slowly release all of the pairings. The only
exception is if multiple parties in Morocco get a hold of the same
material, at t
I was told it is mythical.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> Does anybody know the disposition of the 3 kilogram plus pairing to NWA
> 7034, the Basaltic Martian Breccia sometimes referred to as "Black
> Beauty?" Has it b
Thank you Art for the explanation, I believe it is quite clear.
Now if you would give me your address, I will send you a check.
Thanks.
Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com
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From: Art Jones
To: meteorite-list
Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 3:51 pm
Subject: [met
it over here.
Rob
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Mr EMan wrote:
> From: Mr EMan
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about accretion. Part 2 UAE, Shock
> wave distribution proto Solar System
> To: "Meteorites USA" ,
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: We
There was a question regarding the sorting of elements and why for example
common chondrules had more iron than did Carbonaceous chondrites. The reason
for the difference also includes why we use isotope ratios to determine from
where a parent body probably formed within the solar system.
Some
My ISP continues to lose much of my email else send them in huge batches.
Some additional points to what was discussed thus far:
Iron migration to the core of a heat building/holding sized body is a buoyancy
issue and gravity driven so long as the iron remains molten.
Accretion probably had
According to O. Richard Norton's Encyclopedia of Meteorites 2002,
100-200km (abstract page for chapter 9)
Rob
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Meteorites USA wrote:
> From: Meteorites USA
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about accretion.
> To: rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com, &
Just a smigen bigger than not enough?
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From: "Meteorites USA"
To: ;
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about accretion.
Thanks Rob! Great response. That pretty much sums it up for me and answers
just about ev
Thanks Rob! Great response. That pretty much sums it up for me and
answers just about everything I was curious about in that email.
You mentioned...
"..If the rock is big enough, (which provides enough radioactive material to
generate the heat AND enough lying over the middle to prevent the he
Hi Eric
You are correct in thinking that electrostatics causes the initial clumping.
The early sun would have been extremely energetic and X-ray and UV radiation
would produce electro static charging of small particles.
Once they begin to clump to a sufficient size, they will attract particles
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> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:52:46 -0700
> From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
> To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about accretion.
>
> Thanks for the responses thus far...
>
> I've studied lots of material and
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From: "Meteorites USA"
To: ;
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about accretion.
Thanks for the responses thus far...
I've studied lots of material and scientific papers on accretion, but
still have
Hi Eric,
I'll take a stab at a few of your questions:
> How long does the formation of meteoroid bodies and larger asteroids take?
This is not an easy question, as there were many processes at work during
the early solar system -- some constructive (gravitational/electrostatic
clumping), some de
Thanks for the responses thus far...
I've studied lots of material and scientific papers on accretion, but
still have some questions. The gravity explanation is great, but it's a
little vague. I want to know what causes it I guess at the molecular
level. What physical forces and interactions c
>>How long does the formation of meteoroid bodies and larger asteroids
take?<<
I really don't know, but gonna throw out a guess. I'm assuming that in the
beginning of star and planet formation, there is a lot of dust around. I
recall an experiment aboard one of the Shuttles or space statio
Hi all,
Thank you John, Mike, Sean, Dirk, James and Aubrey for
all the feedback on this Tektite book. You all are a
great resource and as a result I saved some money by
buying the book from Mike Jensen.
The study of Tektites is very interesting in that we
do not have all of the answers yet. The
: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions (chondrules and minerals)
Hi Greg, Mike, Sterling, and list,
At 21:48 17/05/07, Greg wrote:
1. Has any rock formed on Earth been found containing Chondrules
in it? If so, what kind of rock and where was it found
Hi List, Ingo, Greg,
Maskelynite is also known from Ames impact structure Major Co. USA
and from Popigayskii (Popigay) impact crater North Siberia Russia.
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Mascelynite.jpg
Best Regards
Andi
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions
Hi Greg and List!
#2: Yes! Here is
Hi Greg and List!
#2: Yes! Here is a list of some minerals, which were found in
meteorites, but not in terrestrial rocks so far (to my knowledge). If
someone has additional information or correction please post them
:
- Barringerite (Fe, Ni)2P only in iron meteorites
- Carlsbe
greg stanley wrote:
2. Are there any minerals found in Meteorites that are NOT found
(or formed) on earth.
Farringtonite and Niningerite
Named after two great men in meteoritics. This might also be in the list
archives, although the owner is deleting older posts from years gone by.
-
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R.W. Hollier
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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions (chondrules and minerals)
Hi Greg, Mike, Sterling, and list,
At 21:48 17/05/07
Hi Greg, Mike, Sterling, and list,
At 21:48 17/05/07, Greg wrote:
1. Has any rock formed on Earth been
found containing Chondrules in it? If so, what kind of rock and
where was it found?
Sterling has a fascinating ability to describe complex processes lucidly
and accurately in layman's te
ook at those chondrules!"
Sterling K. Webb
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From: "mike morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "greg stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:24 P
I can answer ? #1. In the book Rocks from Space on
page 181 it says,Chondrules, little spherical
inclusions called chondrules give the chondrite
meteorite its name.The texture is cosmic because
chondrules are not found in terrestrial rocks.
As for ? #2 I am new to all this so I dont really
know. B
If I had a guess, the TEP, Tucson Electrical Park would be on my short
short list of places to ferret out a rock saw and other equipment.
Remember that there are shows all over town. You will run out of money
and time no matter how much you think you have plenty of both.
TEP is on the south e
Pat,
You can read what little I know between the questions below:
> Howdy Fellow Listees,
>
> This year will be my first visit to the Tucson show,
> and I have some questions. I have the
> meteorite-times.com show guide, which has been very
> valuable.
>
> [I have a hotel in Green Va
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Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Questions on olivine in meterorites.
Hi Suzanne & Jim, all,
A rock with olivine never contains quartz. In the presence of olivine, SiO2
produces
pyroxenes. Quartz has a low birefringence, as opposed to o
Hi Suzanne & Jim, all,
A rock with olivine never contains quartz. In the presence of olivine, SiO2 produces pyroxenes. Quartz has a low birefringence, as opposed to olivine. Quartz polarizes in the light gray and white of the 1st order. In terrestrial rocks, it is thus easy to control the thick
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> One correction, please!
>
> No one has been able to tell me yet what this
> inclusion is made off.
> But it has been determined that it certainly is not
> troilite (thank you Jeff
> Kuyken) It is not brassy looking, the colors on the
> pictures are ac
In a message dated 5/9/2006 10:57:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> So of course we were welcomed to a Matteo comment on
> pricing.
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> Did Haag's piece have nice crust like that? Did
> Haag's piece have the nice
> crystal as shown by Anne's great photos? W
hese meteorites?
Cheers,
Jeff
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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
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Hello Jeff, Bob, Lis
In a message dated 5/8/2006 2:46:14 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Bob,
Could it be Troilite (FeS)? It has a gold colour and is often quite
prevalent in many chondrites. Bensour was a great example and it's easily
distinguishable against the stark pale interior.
ht
No Dealers collecting the rocks = few rocks to study = tiny meteorite
research budget = no meteorite scientist jobs.
Simplifying :
(Rocks to study /10) is better than (rocks to study=0)
So before those of you call it 'NWA raping', bear in mind that the whole
field of meteoritics depends on t
stuff,
as it was transported by the movement of the ice.
Cheers!
Martin
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To:
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions regarding Unclassified meteorite
sales
> If it
Hi Patrick, Darren, Kevin...
I neither would say, that in past it happened, that collectors were
discouraged by anyone to purchase unclassified stones or classified NWAs, it
was rather about to tell, that most collectors (and dealers) hold them not
exactely the same dear as classical finds or even
If it was such a loss to science that unclassified NWA:s were traded,
don't you think some scientist would apply for a grant to buy it in bulk
from the Moroccans?
I haven't heard about any expedition to Morocco by NASA scientists so I
guess this isn't a big problem.
The only data lost is pairi
That is correct, we only have the orbits for a few meteorite falls, and they
must be filmed and photographed to obtain orbit.
Mike
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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:15 AM
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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:10 AM
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sales
I tend to disagree with most of your points here. With fossils and
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 02:35:16 +1100, "Kevin Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You wouldn't know if it was part of a large or small fall, since no details
>on it's find location are noted.
>You wouldn't know if you had a highly altered chondrite or an achondrite.
>Should a NWA be studied and f
.
Michael Farmer
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To:
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Questions regarding Unclassified meteorite
sales
G'day list, my feelings on unclassified NWA's.
This rep
> Just look at the
> backlog of Antartic meteorites. It took nearly 10
> years to discover that
> ALH84001 was Martain.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Kevin Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> &g
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G'day list, my feelings on unclassified NWA's.
This repsents the ultimate rape of science.
What can be told abo
G'day list, my feelings on unclassified NWA's.
This repsents the ultimate rape of science.
What can be told about an unclassified NWA.
In short, nothing, apart from, I think it is a meteorite and I think it came
from somewhere in Nth West Africa.
You wouldn't know if it was part of a large or s
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:03:31 -0800 (PST), Pat Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Will some of you share your thoughts on why
>unclassified meteorite sales are discouraged?
>
I haven't really heard of the sales being "discouraged". All I know of is a
very few dealers
spreading sour grapes about wh
Hello Adam,
I can fairly agree with Bernd to identify your first unknown as Farmington
(L5, br).
However there can be another alternative.
I have in collection (from TCU/Monnig) a complete slice of Springer (H6),
147 g, which closely resembles to the one you pictured, namely that also
shows a si
Adam,
I checked in several of the catalogs I have and found the following listing
in Arizona State University's Catalog of Meteorites p. 99:
Harrisonville, Cass County, Missouri, U.S.A.
Stone, Olivene-hypersthene chondrite, L6
Found 1933
Total Known Weight: 12.9kg.
Specimens:
#176f 156.
Adam:
Richard Norton told me a real interesting story about the Cook specimens.
You should contact him for more info.
Matt
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Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
PO Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
ebay id: mhmeteorites
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From: "Ada
Hello Adam and List,
> appears to be a shock darkened, fresh chondrite with metal veining.
Could this be a Farmington piece (L5, black; fragmental breccia)?
> Has anybody heard of the Cook Collection?
The "Catalogue of Meteorites" mentions a Cook Collection:
The determination of a number of tr
Hi Jeff
In Rocks from Space (1st Edition) on page 217 and
218, Norton talks about a brick-shaped hexahedrite. It was a single
kamacite crystal and showed only Neumann lines when etched.
Best Regards,
Phil
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Sent:
Hi Paul,
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Hi,
Enstatite chondrites are believed to have formed near the sun
because of their lox oxygen content. It is possible that they formed
within the orbit of Mercury.
Thanks,
Peter Scherff
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Here is the IMCA info, sorry I can't help with your
other question (it wasn't an iron)
Sincerely,Jim
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