Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft

2005-12-20 Thread Benjamin Carlyle
Ryan, On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 12:05 -0800, Ryan King wrote: > On Dec 20, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Benjamin Carlyle wrote: > > Reading the information from > > that atomenabled.org I'm inclined to write the parser as only placing > > author and contributor elements in an entry when they appear in the > > hA

[uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Ryan Cannon
Greetings, I've actually been looking at this problem from another angle, and considered submitting a microformat about it. What we're really looking for is not solely citation data (such as ISBN), but bibliographic information. Perhaps a good method for starting is to break down the rele

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Bill Humphries
On Dec 20, 2005, at 2:39 PM, brian suda wrote: I know there has been alot of talk about a television microformat, IMHO i think that is just a very specialised version of a citation microformat, with additional specialised fields. Thanks Brian. B.K. DeLong and I had committed to researching

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread brian suda
Ryan Cannon wrote: >Greetings, > >I've actually been looking at this problem from another angle, and >considered submitting a microformat about it. What we're really looking >for is not solely citation data (such as ISBN), but bibliographic >information. Perhaps a good method for starting is to br

[uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Ryan Cannon
Greetings, I've actually been looking at this problem from another angle, and considered submitting a microformat about it. What we're really looking for is not solely citation data (such as ISBN), but bibliographic information. Perhaps a good method for starting is to break down the relevant info

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft

2005-12-20 Thread Ryan King
On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:29 PM, David Janes wrote: I'm going to consider this a little further over Christmas. Right now, the hAtom spec does not define author (or contributor) at the feed level. This is an ommission, but I was concerned with making the minimal set of rules I could make. Her

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft

2005-12-20 Thread David Janes
- Original Message - From: "Benjamin Carlyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Microformats Discuss" Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft David, On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 04:02 -0500, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: Have at it: http://microformats.o

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft

2005-12-20 Thread Ryan King
On Dec 20, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Benjamin Carlyle wrote: David, On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 04:02 -0500, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: Have at it: http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom I'm currently doing some work based on Luke Arno's hAtom2Atom.xsl to get my feed reader of choice (liferea) to par

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2005-12-20 Thread Tantek Çelik
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Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread brian suda
80% is exactly the point, i have started to put together a list of "common" citation types, MODS, BibTeX, Dublin Core, etc. Then trying to map the names between the many different formats, DC.Title->Title, Bibtex.year->DC.Date, etc. Then when we find all the common propties, we just give them our

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Summers
On 12/20/05, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Suda and I have had some on-again, off-again discussions > regarding a citation microformat. As this thread points out, solving > the whole thing in one shot is rather tricky. Well, perhaps rather than solving 100% of the citation problems

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Tim White
Brian Suda and I have had some on-again, off-again discussions regarding a citation microformat. As this thread points out, solving the whole thing in one shot is rather tricky. So, what we've come up with as a starting point is identifying design patterns and working on those first. I've tried to

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Edward Vielmetti
On 12/20/05, Ed Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreed. Expecting microformatters to learn AACR2 and MARC's byzantine > tagging mechanism is a non starter. By definition MARC (Machine > Readable Cataloging) was designed for machines to read--not humans. > This is evident in the numeric tags th

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Summers
On 12/20/05, Benjamin Carlyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MARC is typically used for cataloging rather than citation. It is the > electronic equivalent to a paper card catalogue in your local library. > Cataloging and citation are targeted at slightly different audiences. > Citation is targetted a

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft

2005-12-20 Thread Benjamin Carlyle
David, On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 04:02 -0500, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: > Have at it: > http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom I'm currently doing some work based on Luke Arno's hAtom2Atom.xsl to get my feed reader of choice (liferea) to parse hAtom sites. I currently have the xsl scraping the htm

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: [Structuredblogging-discuss] microformat for books in a library catalog

2005-12-20 Thread Benjamin Carlyle
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 23:23 -0600, Edward Summers wrote: > We've actually been throwing around some of these on the wiki: > http://microformats.org/wiki/cite > http://microformats.org/wiki/cite-brainstorming > http://microformats.org/wiki/cite-examples > MARC, or MARC21 as it is k