Re: [uf-discuss] Citation format straw proposal on the wiki

2006-03-30 Thread C. Hudley
On 3/30/06, Bruce D'Arcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/30/06, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Although, to clarify, your distinction above is really between an > in-text citation, and a full bibliographic reference. Um... I just see it as a note pointing to a citation and the citatio

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation format straw proposal on the wiki

2006-03-30 Thread C. Hudley
On 3/30/06, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) "Adapted to current behaviors and usage patterns." > Microformats are suppose to be modeled on what people are currently > doing (80/20) on the web. I think of it in terms of the Everyman/woman. > Capturing metadata isn't what is happening by th

Re: [uf-discuss] seeking clarification w/r/to hCard and RFCs 2425/2426

2006-03-30 Thread C. Hudley
On 3/29/06, Kevin Marks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you mean services and protocols in the computing sense? > If so you should look into the DNS-SD specification for service > discovery, as this is a deployed and working one that builds on DNS. That's what I've just been looking at. :) I'm

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation format straw proposal on the wiki

2006-03-28 Thread C. Hudley
e I'd be happy to help with that, but I won't touch anything unless somebody says to. (** to be precise, I'd just reuse the profiles defined in OpenURL for journals and books to start, since those are explicitly barebones subsets for following references, but you've heard that from

Re: [uf-discuss] seeking clarification w/r/to hCard and RFCs 2425/2426

2006-03-27 Thread C. Hudley
On 3/27/06, brian suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What are you trying to accomplish with directories that would be out of > the scope of hCard? Like I said: things like protocols and data formats. Version and revision numbers. Publication dates. Specification names and standards organizatio

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-27 Thread C. Hudley
efines its own span w/class='unapi-uri', the full identifier in the title attribute value, and a human-readable form in the span text content, mimicking the abbr pattern previously suggested and used here. -- C. Hudley We Know The Truth, Inc. ___

[uf-discuss] seeking clarification w/r/to hCard and RFCs 2425/2426

2006-03-26 Thread C. Hudley
th it? My apologies if I've missed anything more recent on this... I haven't been able to follow or participate as closely as I'd have liked or had promised for a few months. Thanks. -- C. Hudley We Know The Truth, Inc. ___ micr

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenURL COinS

2006-03-26 Thread C. Hudley
be to participants of this list, is why we wrote it. A workable citation microformat easily serialized into / deserialized from OpenURLs would be much better. -- C. Hudley We Know The Truth, Inc. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microf

Re: [uf-discuss] citation microformat encodings

2006-01-24 Thread C. Hudley
ment. Neither is vCard, nor iCal, human friendly. We know! That's why we're here. We have been working for two years to free OpenURL from the dependency from specific link servers and we want it to be useful for decentralized development, and microformats are obviously the best p

Re: [uf-discuss] citation microformat encodings

2006-01-24 Thread C. Hudley
examples for book and journal article citations might be useful. Given that OpenURL is a "well established, interoperably implemented standard we can look at which addresses this problem", I would hope it might draw more interest than it has so far. -- C. Hudley We Know The Truth, Inc. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] citation microformat?

2006-01-18 Thread C. Hudley
't seem helpful to me to take pot shots at other approaches to solving other problems that seem insufficient for solving your problem today. There's knowledge in there to draw from, and we can all be smart about picking and choosing without throwing stones. Love, -ch. -- C. Hudley We K

Re: [uf-discuss] Another AHAH sighting

2006-01-11 Thread C. Hudley
d to join us. I can guarantee that microformats will appear repeatedly, at least in my talk. There are multiple lightning talk sessions and open-ended blocks for assorted hackery, too, for which any topics discussed here would be most welcome. -- C.

Re: [uf-discuss] FYI: Firefox Scholar (aka SmartFox)

2005-12-16 Thread C. Hudley
, if I'm remembering correctly. -- C. Hudley We Know The Truth, Inc. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Ics import in Outlook

2005-12-12 Thread C. Hudley
On 12/12/05, David Osolkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Has the tag URI scheme been registered successfully? I don't see an > > update on its status on that page. > > > > If not, the info URI scheme (as was mentioned here recently), with the > > "sid" namespace, could be used the same way

Re: [uf-discuss] Ics import in Outlook

2005-12-12 Thread C. Hudley
On 12/9/05, David Osolkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The tag: URI scheme[1] provides a fairly effective way to generate unique > ID's. I believe it is the recommended way to generate GUIDs for Atom[2]. > Thus, it seems likely it could be re-used here. > > [1] http://www.taguri.org/ Has the

Re: [uf-discuss] Almost UMP:xFolk Supported

2005-12-08 Thread C. Hudley
On 12/8/05, David Janes -- BlogMatrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe this concept [1] from hCard would be useful? > [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples#3.6.7_UID_Type_Definition Yes, exactly like that, but in our case, they're URIs, so we'd rather call them URIs. :) __

Re: [uf-discuss] Almost UMP:xFolk Supported

2005-12-08 Thread C. Hudley
On 12/8/05, David Janes -- BlogMatrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "@uri" and in fact "@anything" are little pieces of information the > parser has picked up among the way, not necessarily part of the uF. In > this particular case, it's the uri of the page being parsed. It would be nice to be ab

Re: [uf-discuss] Almost UMP:xFolk Supported

2005-12-08 Thread C. Hudley
#x27;m experimenting with something like this in the canary database as well. All of which brings me back to the question of clarifying where the identifiers are... -- C. Hudley We Know The Truth, Inc. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list mi

Re: [uf-discuss] format for identifiers?

2005-11-29 Thread C. Hudley
On 11/28/05, Simon Kittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So it's not that he was after a way to identify these things (for which > there exists a URI scheme already) but a way to put them into context, like > grouping a bunch of tags under class='vcard' and marking one class='url' > puts it into co

Re: [uf-discuss] format for identifiers?

2005-11-28 Thread C. Hudley
On 11/23/05, David Osolkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the question might have been misread. I understood the question to > be, "is there or should there be a microformat for indicating that something > IS an identifier", as opposed to "is there or should there be a microformat > FOR i

Re: [uf-discuss] format for identifiers?

2005-11-23 Thread C. Hudley
On 11/23/05, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello C. Hudley, welcome to the list! Thanks. :) > Yes, this is a solved problem. > > See http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt > > AKA Uniform Resource Identifier (URI). Indeed! But, afaict, URIs as specified in HT

[uf-discuss] format for identifiers?

2005-11-23 Thread C. Hudley
on in #microformats the other day indicated a msg to the list might be a good next step. I don't think an answer lives in the HTML specs already. My apologies if I've missed something obvious, please point me at relevant backstory and I'l