[uf-discuss] Re: Exploratory discussion: content rating

2006-07-27 Thread Paul Bryson
Scott Reynen wrote: This was discussed at some length last October: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2005-October/001684.html Drew specifically wants to add tags to content within the page, not to links to a page. IE: img class=NSFW-nudity src... / Atamido

[uf-discuss] Re: Resolving Microformats List Problem

2006-07-19 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote: I added text/html back to the accepted list and changed the behavior to 'reject', rather than 'discard'. While I do think it's generally a better idea to not send HTML emails (I really hate those custom icon and emoticon ads), why reject those emails? It's possible that

[uf-discuss] Re: Again

2006-07-14 Thread Paul Bryson
is subscribers only, so I'd guess the answer is no. -ryan On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Paul Bryson wrote: I just realized that I have no idea if most of my emails make it through. I post through Gmane, so it appears there. But as I don't subscribe to the mailing list, I don't know if it actually gets

[uf-discuss] Re: More responses to slashdot comments

2006-07-14 Thread Paul Bryson
Scott Reynen wrote: Why isn't leftColumn a semantic relationship? It means something, doesn't it? It has meaning, but doesn't give meaning to anything else. Semantic would indicate that it told you something 'about' the meaning the content, not where it is located. You might say that

[uf-discuss] Re: Again

2006-07-11 Thread Paul Bryson
Colin D. Devroe wrote: Again, 4 messages that I've written (either by replying or by simply creating a new mail message) have not gone through on this list. I'm not sure what my alternative is, but this is very frustrating. Can anyone help? Colin D. Devroe I personally use a usenet

[uf-discuss] Re: hreview item question

2006-06-26 Thread Paul Bryson
Tantek Çelik wrote: In general that is the parsing rule for microformats where a singleton is required (e.g. single FN property). If you find more than one instance where you were expecting only one, just use the first instance found. Where is this written? Atamido

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats talk at Internet Professionals Association of Alabama

2006-05-24 Thread Paul Bryson
Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Is this worthy of mentioning on the wiki events? They have the Internet now in Alabama? I'd say that's definitely worthy of the wiki. Atamido - who hopes people know he thinks he's funny. ___ microformats-discuss mailing

Re: [uf-discuss] Microsummaries in Firefox redux

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Bryson
Chris Messina wrote: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Microsummaries#Microsummary_Generators Maybe I'm daft, but I don't get it. Nor do I see how most mortals will grok microsummaries or how to create them (http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/147071018/). I suspect that most people won't know what

[uf-discuss] Annotations/Footnotes

2006-05-12 Thread Paul Bryson
I poked around and didn't see any mention of these anywhere. Is there a defined method to use for footnotes? This seems closely related to Citations where there appears to be some mention of annotations, but doesn't seem to be exactly correct. I had a page that I helped someone out with,

Re: [uf-discuss] Is there an Ask Question or Request for Referral style microformat

2006-05-08 Thread Paul Bryson
Sounds like a FAQ, no? Mark Mansour wrote: I have the need to capture and present, in a structured manner, a request for referrals. i.e. capture in a stuctured way the question (request) Who sells the best coffee beans in San Mateo, CA? and then the answers 1. Joes on El Camino Real, 2. Bobs

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag ... or something more?

2006-05-04 Thread Paul Bryson
Angus McIntyre wrote: I'm not really proposing an entire microformat for writing about wine, as that seems like a niche application. You may want to look over hReview and the research that has gone into listings as there may be some overlap with the information you are trying to present.

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-04 Thread Paul Bryson
Tantek Çelik wrote: [1] In Wikipedia they have used the convention of lang.wikipedia.org which has had the VERY unfortunate side-effect of requiring more than one login per language that you are editing. There are some Wikipedians with 100+ logins *just for Wikipedia* because of this problem.

Re: [uf-discuss] Chat microformat/podcast transcript

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Bryson
Kevin Marks wrote... Thats why you use a list: ol liciteChris Messina/cite qA chat is a list of definitions./q/li liciteKevin Marks/cite qNo, a chat is a list of quotations./q/li /ol Which has a very nice default rendering. Slap a date/time-design-pattern abbr in there and it would

Re: [uf-discuss] Format-of-Formats?

2006-03-30 Thread Paul Bryson
Tantek Ç elik wrote... In practice, this never[*] happens. It's been tried *numerous* times. DTD, XML Schema, etc. In practice, key portions/features of really *useful* specific formats (like HTML) *always* fall outside of the meta-format, and *must* be specified in prose of a

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Paul Bryson
Breton Blake Slivka wrote... However, a species classification microformat would fit right in with the other broadly applicable microformats on microformats.org. Indeed. Creating a more generalized microformat, that can be specifically applied to plants, seems like a pretty good idea. This

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Paul Bryson
Mark, Good job starting, but you will want to make your examples a little more descriptive. For instance, not just listing the types of information on a site, but how that information is displayed. img src=/graphics/icons/DBluFore_AspSun.gif alt=Sunshine Levels - Sunfont class=ForeLobetc.

[uf-discuss] adr in hCalendar

2006-03-16 Thread Paul Bryson
hCalendar is currently using the location class to specify the location of the an event. However, hCard (and supposedly everything else in the future) uses adr to describe indicate an object's location. It seems like, from use and description, that the location moniker is intended to convey

Re: [uf-discuss] Call for microformats folks attending/demoing at ETechand SXSW!

2006-02-27 Thread Paul Bryson
Tantek Ç elik wrote... Greetings, There are several microformats related sessions at upcoming conferences documented here: http://microformats.org/wiki/events In particular I want to call your attention to ETech and SXSW sessions on microformats:

Re: [uf-discuss] implied nickname optimization proposal accepted andadded to hCard

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Bryson
Tantek Ç elik wrote... The implied nickname optimization proposal as documented on hcard-brainstorming, and +1'd by various folks with no objections, has been accepted and added to hCard. Yay! From the wiki: Implied nickname Optimization Due to the prevalence of the use of

Re: [uf-discuss] Massive use of hCard - need validation and discussion

2006-02-11 Thread Paul Bryson
Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... Is there really any point in hcarding things that have no contact information? I'm skeptical that the markup above would be useful to anyone. Ever. :-) It is possible that with the proliferation of hCards that search indexes like Google will take special

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview implementation feedback sought

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Bryson
Has the hReview format been updated to work with aggregates yet? Atamido Ben Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Greeting microformateers, We've just put live an early cut of http://www.reevoo.com - a uk- based review aggregator for reviews of electrical

Re: [uf-discuss] Tag to URL namespacing, mod_rewrite?

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Bryson
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote... You may have to play with this a bit. If you get stuck, you may have to do things with Internal Proxies. I'd try to be a bit more specific here, but mod_rewrite stuff can suck up hours of time. From the official documentation: `` Despite the tons of

Re: [uf-discuss] 1-click subscription with Microformats

2006-02-03 Thread Paul Bryson
Joshua Kinberg wrote... Not sure if this is entirely relevant here, but wanted to let people know that we recently launched a 1-click subscription mechanism for FireAnt that I believe may be the first such attempt to consider Microformats: Doesn't Amazon.com own the patent on 1-click?

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview for Stocks

2006-02-03 Thread Paul Bryson
John Panzer wrote... Paul Bryson wrote: Microformats in spam? Wow, that is some serious market penetration. Real world spam example duly added to http://microformats.org/wiki/stock-symbol-examples. :) lol ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview for Stocks

2006-02-02 Thread Paul Bryson
John Panzer wrote... Yep, in the usages I've seen, people tend to use either the name or the individual ticker symbol interchangeably in text. That is, the difference between Buy Time Warner now! and Buy TWX now! seems to be mostly a matter of style; Microformats in spam? Wow, that is some

Re: [uf-discuss] plays, skits scripts

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Bryson
Chris Messina wrote... I wonder than if we're going to be semantic purists and not use definition lists than what should we use? Ordered lists perhaps? I just don't think using paragraphs makes any sense, especially since each speaker very likely will have multiple paragraphs of prose. A

Re: [uf-discuss] chat microformat next steps

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Bryson
It looks like you're missing MSN Messenger's XML logs. Some example files are available here: http://stupidpeople.commo.de/logs/After%20August%202004/ Atamido Christopher St John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] my suspicion is that the vast majority of chat logs

Re: [uf-discuss] plays, skits scripts

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Bryson
than my DL approach. Anyone else have opinions? Chris On 2/1/06, Paul Bryson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Messina wrote... I wonder than if we're going to be semantic purists and not use definition lists than what should we use? Ordered lists perhaps? I just don't think using paragraphs

Re: [uf-discuss] be it resolved: irc chat logs deserve their ownmicroformat

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Bryson
This is probably a good time to mention again that NICKNAME should be added hCard as another alternate to FN and N for the required naming entry. In this way, hCard could be reused for the name in chat and IRC conversations. Also, enter/leave are used inside of non-irc conversations, but

Re: [uf-discuss] plays, skits scripts

2006-01-31 Thread Paul Bryson
Håkon Wium Lie wrote... That could work. I'm a little uncertain about labelling Soothsayer as a term and his line as a definition, though. (TimBL himself once called me pedantic when resisting the use of dl's beyond tranditional definition lists, so perhaps I'm a bit old-fashioned.) Using dl

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats + Thunderbird

2006-01-31 Thread Paul Bryson
Chris Messina wrote... Admittedly I'm underrepresenting the potential complexity of the problem, but since Address Book presumably works with the vcard standard, why don't I have a folder in ~/Documents called Address Book? Why don't I have a ton of HTML files in there for each person...

Re: [uf-discuss] chat microformat

2006-01-31 Thread Paul Bryson
Without checking, is Chatzilla already added to the chat-examples page? Atamido Christopher St John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've recently become interested in chat microformats. chat-examples looks like it's stalled out a bit. Is anyone still working actively

Re: Welcome H�kon! (and Re: [uf-discuss] bookbrainstorming )

2006-01-30 Thread Paul Bryson
Paul Bryson wrote... Wow, it is truly an honor. I'm afraid I don't have much to offer in this particular format, Actually, I have seen people working on a format for displaying scripts (for theaters and acting). Is that related? Atamido

Re: [uf-discuss] FYI: Google web authoring statistics

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Bryson
Mark Rickerby wrote... Sorry if some of you have already seen this, if not, I think it's quite interesting... Nope, hadn't seen it. That is probably the coolest thing I have seen in at least two weeks. Gracias. Kudos to Google for using .SVGs to display the data instead of images.

Re: [uf-discuss] FYI: Google web authoring statistics

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Bryson
B.K. DeLong wrote... At 12:16 PM 1/26/2006, Paul Bryson wrote: Kudos to Google for using .SVGs to display the data instead of images. http://code.google.com/webstats/2005-12/charts/top20-classes.svg However, I would have suggested PNGs for those with browsers that don't natively support SVG

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview feedback

2006-01-19 Thread Paul Bryson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... Just a comment on this. I'm pretty well connected to the movie reviewer community, and have been a participant on Rotten Tomatoes discussion boards for quite some time (I have over 10,000 posts on the discussion boards). RottenTomatoes.com (www.rottentomatoes.com)

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview feedback

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote... On Jan 17, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Paul Bryson wrote: A good portion of the numerical ratings on the internet are aggregates of many people voting, usually without their own detailed reviews, so getting a float value for the rating would be pretty likely. I think

Re: [uf-discuss] FYI: ModuleT Is Live

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote... On Jan 18, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Kevin Lawver wrote: description A short, user-readable (ie: not overly technical) description of the module and what it does. detail A more detailed description of a module capabilities and requirements. Why not reuse summary/description, as

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview feedback

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote... As is, hReview sets the default lower bound at 1 (which is what most examples in the wild use, despite what http://microformats.org/wiki/ reviews-formats seemed to indicate). I don't think there's a case for changing this. Did someone collect examples to indicate that

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview feedback

2006-01-15 Thread Paul Bryson
 "Paul Bryson" wrote... "Ryan King" wrote... Yeah, AFAICT, there's no commonly used format for ranges used on the web (or elsewhere, for that matter), so we have little prior art in terms of previous formats. However, we still have prior art in terms of example

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview feedback

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote... On Jan 12, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Paul Bryson wrote: So, how do you provide that information without looking silly? How do people provide it now without looking silly? Do they? Good question. I believe I've seen it said, but not without looking extraneous. Maybe a bigger

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar Implementation

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Bryson
What would happen if he marked up each time individually? div class=vevent h4Date: abbr class=dtstart title=20050123T16:00-0500Monday, January 23, 2006/abbr/h4 pabbr title=20050123T16:00-05004:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time/abbrbr abbr title=20050123T15:00-06003:00 PM Central Daylight Time/abbrbr

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview feedback

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Bryson
Froogle.Google.com: a href=/froogle/reviews?cid=fea516c1c02389cb img src=gstar-on.gif img src=gstar-on.gif img src=gstar-on.gif img src=gstar-half.gif img src=star-off.gif /a a href=/froogle/reviews?cid=fea516c1c02389cb nobr445nbsp;merchantnbsp;ratings/nobr /a Paul Bryson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard telephone numbers

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Bryson
brian suda wrote... abbr class=type class=home,hús,masion,crib... Did you mean to write: abbr class=type title=home,hús,masion,crib... ? Atamido ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar Implementation

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote... These have no impact, since they don't have dtstart as a classname. Would it be legal to have more than one dtstart if they are all the same time in GMT? I would assume this is covered by the iCal spec, but I don't know where. Atamido

Re: [uf-discuss] New nomenclature for hAtom

2006-01-10 Thread Paul Bryson
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're interested in hAtom and have an informed opinion, please go to [1] and have your say. I've done this to pull together all the different threads that were floating around on the issues page. It appears that so far we

Re: [uf-discuss] Happy New Year! Microformats in 2006.

2006-01-03 Thread Paul Bryson
Ryan King wrote... Off hand, I would say the primary existing file tagging systems (in order of use) are ID3v1 ID3v2 RIFF AAF/MPEG-7 These are all fine and good, but the thing we're lacking in this area is examples of how people publish this stuff *on the web in HTML*. Yes, just

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Bryson
Paul Bryson wrote... I'm just looking for extra confirmation of this little problem before touching the wiki. It appears that hAtom uses the class attribute title for it's title, such as what would go in a heading hn However, the hCard also uses title, but in a completely different

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Bryson
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote ... The author is opaque in that hAtom is not looking for further hAtom elements within that element. However, hAtom does know that this element is a hCard and parses it as a hCard. Ah, that explains a lot. Thanks. Atamido

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft - class=title

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Bryson
David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote... You should be able to now convert the Date Posted into a nice published element. It isn't already? Honestly, in production I'm not sure that I will have access to the date in an ISO format. I will include it though for the example. I'm not a fan of how