On Jan 9, 2008 8:30 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please don't do so on my account. I find such hiatuses (whether
voluntary or imposed) pointless; far better for the time to be spent
making constructive contributions to our work here.
I suspect that he realised he had gone too far
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
properties!=values. types/schema are not just as much data.
You seem to be making unsubstantiated assertions and arbitrary
distinctions.
Please stop making the assumption of lack of foundation logical flaw.
I made no
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guillaume Lebleu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Andy Mabbett wrote:
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that labelled
each telephone number as work?
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that included
the managers' home
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guillaume Lebleu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Andy Mabbett wrote:
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that labelled
each telephone number as work?
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that included
the managers' home
On Jan 7, 2008 8:14 PM, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The distinction of properties, values, types, schema etc. are well
documented computer science terms.
Actually, in knowledge representation terms they're
usually not. To get around the what's meta problem
people generally just pick
Andy Mabbett wrote:
In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a phone number
not being a work number when both a person's formatted name and
organization name were present?
Today - and nearly every time I look at a contact page about someone
who does voluntary work.
Andy,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guillaume Lebleu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a phone
number not being a work number when both a person's formatted name
and organization name were present?
Today - and nearly every time I look at a contact
Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guillaume Lebleu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a phone
number not being a work number when both a person's formatted name
and organization name were present?
Today - and nearly every time
On 1/8/08 6:47 AM, Christopher St John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 7, 2008 8:14 PM, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The distinction of properties, values, types, schema etc. are well
documented computer science terms.
Actually, in knowledge representation terms they're
On 1/8/08 12:08 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
properties!=values. types/schema are not just as much data.
You seem to be making unsubstantiated assertions and arbitrary
distinctions.
Please stop making
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Thus, apologies, comment retracted.
Thank you.
Based on this feedback I will refrain from posting on microformats
mailing lists and making wiki edits (other than admin duties of
blocking/reverting spammers) for 24 hours.
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul
Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Jan 7, 2008 9:54 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nor should you replace 31 Dec 2007 with 2008-01-01, as is currently
done in:
abbr class=dtend title=2008-01-0131 Dec 2007/abbr
I can't understand how
On Jan 6, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I just want to
label it 'Phone:'. The closest I can find to do this is the abbr,
however, work is not an abbreviation of
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], ryan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Jan 6, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I just want to
label it 'Phone:'. The closest I can find to do
On 1/7/08 11:52 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], ryan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Jan 6, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In any case, how is that different from:
abbr class=dtstart title=2008-01-077 Jan/abbr
where 2008 is hidden?
title attribute is displayed in tool-tips
in some, but far from all, browsers.
On 1/7/08 2:42 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In any case, how is that different from:
abbr class=dtstart title=2008-01-077 Jan/abbr
where 2008 is hidden?
title attribute is displayed in tool-tips
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
title attribute is displayed in tool-tips
in some, but far from all, browsers.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.4.3
Values of the title attribute may be rendered by user agents in
a
On 1/7/08 3:46 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Data in the class attribute is a known anti-pattern.
extended-address, street-address, locality, region - all just as much
data in class attributes.
properties!=values. types/schema are not just as much data.
Tantek
Tantek Çelik wrote:
On 1/7/08 2:42 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In any case, how is that different from:
abbr class=dtstart title=2008-01-077 Jan/abbr
where 2008 is hidden?
title attribute is displayed
On 1/7/08 4:01 PM, Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tantek Çelik wrote:
On 1/7/08 2:42 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In any case, how is that different from:
abbr class=dtstart title=2008-01-077
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 1/7/08 3:46 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Data in the class attribute is a known anti-pattern.
extended-address, street-address, locality, region - all just as much
data in class attributes.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
I just don't seem to understand how the Microformats community decides
what sort of meta-data is acceptable and what others aren't?
The /community/ doesn't. That's part of the problem.
--
Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Mostly microformats just markup existing data in the page so that
machines can find it and know what type of data it is.
The name:
Rebecca Jayne Smith
can be marked up - correctly and validly - as either:
foo
On 1/7/08 4:46 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 1/7/08 3:46 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Data in the class attribute is a known anti-pattern.
extended-address, street-address, locality, region
Andy Mabbett wrote:
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that labelled
each telephone number as work?
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that included
the managers' home numbers?
In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a phone
On 1/7/08 5:19 PM, Guillaume Lebleu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to avoid the meta discussion and go back to Kat's specific problem
(she wants to specify a phone as work but without the content containing
work or any of its abbreviations), maybe something that would work
would be to have an
Tantek Çelik wrote:
On 1/7/08 5:19 PM, Guillaume Lebleu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
voice in fact is already default value of the type sub-property for tel:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#adr_tel_email_types
Thanks for the pointer. Sorry I missed that.
Perhaps you could document your
Guillaume Lebleu wrote:
Andy Mabbett wrote:
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that labelled
each telephone number as work?
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that included
the managers' home numbers?
In that same vein, we could ask: when
I suppose I should have posted this in the mailing list:
http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2007-12-06#T192503
-Sarven
On 1/7/08, Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guillaume Lebleu wrote:
Andy Mabbett wrote:
When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza restaurants that labelled
On 6 Jan 2008, at 04:20, ryan wrote:
eg. abbr class=type title=workPhone/abbr
Q2. Would it be possible to do something like this, instead?
span class=type title=workPhone/span
@title is only used for abbr for many reasons. I think we have an
FAQ for it somewhere, but can't seem to find it
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I just want to
label it 'Phone:'. The closest I can find to do this is the abbr,
however, work is not an abbreviation of 'phone'.
eg. abbr class=type title=workPhone/abbr
Q2.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jim O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
@title is only used for abbr for many reasons. I think we have an
FAQ for it somewhere, but can't seem to find it right now.
There's one near the bottom of http://microformats.org/wiki/faq but it
only mentions dates and
On Jan 7, 2008 9:54 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nor should you replace 31 Dec 2007 with 2008-01-01, as is currently
done in:
abbr class=dtend title=2008-01-0131 Dec 2007/abbr
I can't understand how anyone ever thought that acceptable.
We're going to have to work
On 1/6/08 9:37 PM, Paul Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 7, 2008 9:54 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nor should you replace 31 Dec 2007 with 2008-01-01, as is currently
done in:
abbr class=dtend title=2008-01-0131 Dec 2007/abbr
I can't understand how anyone
Le 6 janv. 2008 à 12:34, Katrina a écrit :
Q2. Would it be possible to do something like this, instead?
span class=type title=workPhone/span
Just to make it clear. This is a valid HTML construct. So you can do it.
I do not think it is understood by a microformat extractor (if it
matters to
Gday,
Q1. Is there a way to specify if a url is personal or work-related, in a
similar style to telephone numbers?
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I just want to
label it 'Phone:'. The closest I can find to do this is the abbr,
however, work is not an abbreviation
Sorry, I pressed reply thinking it would send to the list.
Original Message
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hCard: url and tel
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:10:56 +1030
From: Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Temperature Technology
To: ryan [EMAIL
On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Katrina wrote:
Gday,
Q1. Is there a way to specify if a url is personal or work-related,
in a similar style to telephone numbers?
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I just want
to label it 'Phone:'. The closest I can find to do this is the
On Jan 6, 2008 4:34 PM, Katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to specify a work-related telephone number, but I just want to
label it 'Phone:'. The closest I can find to do this is the abbr,
however, work is not an abbreviation of 'phone'.
eg. abbr class=type title=workPhone/abbr
Q2.
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