Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-03-01 Thread Rob Crowther
On 28/02/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The title attribute is hidden metadata, which we try to avoid as much as possible. But the class education is also hidden metadata, so if the informal isn't hidden then you can't see what it applies to. Why not just use tags? span

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-28 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Colin Barrett wrote: I'd just like to pop into the thread briefly and remind people to take a look at what markup and best practices already exist in the wild. We don't want to wander off into purely theoretical land here ;) That's great advice. I'd also

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-28 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 16, 2007, at 9:15 AM, Rob Crowther wrote: I think that's a good idea, though we should probably use title as type doesn't seem to be a valid attribute on anything other than links? So we could have: The title attribute is hidden metadata, which we try to avoid as much as possible.

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-19 Thread Rob Crowther
On 19/02/07, stephen mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: span class=education title=school ... /span span class=education title=university ... /span span class=education title=training ... /span span class=education title=certification ... /span span class=education title=informal ... /span

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-17 Thread Rob Crowther
On 17/02/07, Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps seeing how a number of the major résumé hosting sites (Monster.com? LinkedIn?) break down this sort of thing would be insightful. Good idea. On Monster (the .co.uk one) I get just one section entitled Education, with the following

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-16 Thread Rob Crowther
On 15/02/07, stephen mulcahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an employer I strongly differentiate between the 2 and believe most employees work similarly. I would urge you to consider differentiating them in hResume. Do you differentiate between training which leads to certification and just plain

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-16 Thread Pat Ramsey
When I see training and education, I see learning. I attended schools that were better than others; I've experienced training that was better than others. Both training and education are experiences that people enter with the goal of learning something once they've completed them. Some training

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-16 Thread Pat Ramsey
Whether an individual chooses to learn anything or not, learning is an inherent goal of education and training. That can be abused or not taken advantage of at an individual level, of which the collective really can't do anything about. Technically, the goal is some sort of learning process.

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-16 Thread Colin Barrett
I'd just like to pop into the thread briefly and remind people to take a look at what markup and best practices already exist in the wild. We don't want to wander off into purely theoretical land here ;) Perhaps seeing how a number of the major résumé hosting sites (Monster.com? LinkedIn?)

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-15 Thread stephen mulcahy
Ryan King wrote: On the basis of the above examples, I would suggest that a distinction between education and training could be useful as clearly employers sometimes see them as distinct concepts. Sometimes is not enough. We're trying to work with the 80 side of the 80/20. I have nothing

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-13 Thread Rob Crowther
On 12/02/07, Pat Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Training being a learning experience, I would think marking it up as education is appropriate. But work is (or perhaps should be) a 'learning experience' too. It's not quite the same thing, but most application forms I've filled in have had

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-13 Thread Pat Ramsey
Good points. My experience or my perspective must differ from others. I can see how some training events could fall under education, while others are more clearly considered training. Being who I am, training to me is a learning experience. Even on the job training is what I consider kinesthetic

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-13 Thread Ryan King
On Feb 13, 2007, at 3:23 AM, Rob Crowther wrote: On 12/02/07, Pat Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Training being a learning experience, I would think marking it up as education is appropriate. But work is (or perhaps should be) a 'learning experience' too. It's not quite the same thing, but

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-13 Thread Rob Crowther
On 13/02/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes is not enough. We're trying to work with the 80 side of the 80/20. I have nothing against improving hResume here, but we shouldn't add features that only a minority of people would use. Well 83.3% of my examples had some sort of

Re: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-12 Thread Pat Ramsey
Training being a learning experience, I would think marking it up as education is appropriate. Pat On 2/11/07, Rob Crowther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I've been working on completing the hResume markup on my CV [1]. I have a section devoted to training courses I've been on and other

RE: [uf-discuss] Training events in hResume

2007-02-12 Thread Steve Ganz
On Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:49 PM Rob Crowther wrote Today I've been working on completing the hResume markup on my CV [1]. I have a section devoted to training courses I've been on and other lectures/presentations I've attended. Can anyone advise, would this be better marked up as