Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread WBrown
DFS wrote on 02/12/2010 06:54:27 PM: I must confess, I've never understood people who administer Linux servers, yet don't run a Linux desktop. Heck, run Linux in VMWare if you must, but at least use proper desktop tools to administer a Linux server. When I first started using Linux for

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread Ben Kamen
On 2/16/2010 8:45 AM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Making the switch caused some grief, but I think it was worth it in the long run. If nothing else, patches don't eventual bog the system down like they do in Windows. If you don't believe me, take a fresh machine and install Windows 2000 on it. Time

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/16/2010 8:45 AM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: The frustration of having to run a Windows desktop would drive me insane. Making the switch caused some grief, but I think it was worth it in the long run. If nothing else, patches don't eventual bog the system down like they do in Windows. If

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread Ben Kamen
On 2/16/2010 10:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Windows 2000 is a decade old now - and was not even intended to be a desktop OS. And you need to defrag after making big disk changes. If you don't already see why this is a bad comparision, try installing a 10-year old Linux server distro and try to

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/16/2010 10:33 AM, Ben Kamen wrote: On 2/16/2010 10:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Windows 2000 is a decade old now - and was not even intended to be a desktop OS. And you need to defrag after making big disk changes. If you don't already see why this is a bad comparision, try installing a

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread David F. Skoll
Les Mikesell wrote: [...] Vista is irrelevant. If you read any trade literature at all you would never have touched it in the first place. Just like any X.0 version of a linux distribution. But realistically, the problem in Vista was changing the driver interface, something that Linux does

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread Dave O'Neill
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:51:21AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I take it you don't read the changelogs on linux distribution updates to see the historic bugs that are still being found and fixed. You should. Or, read the MIMEDefang changelog to see the ten-year-old bug fixed in -BETA4 :)

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-16 Thread Ben Kamen
On 2/16/2010 10:51 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Vista is irrelevant. If you read any trade literature at all you would never have touched it in the first place. Just like any X.0 version of a linux distribution. But realistically, the problem in Vista was changing the driver interface, something

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-14 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 13.02.2010 00:54 schrieb David F. Skoll: I must confess, I've never understood people who administer Linux servers, yet don't run a Linux desktop. Heck, run Linux in VMWare if you must, but at least use proper desktop tools to administer a Linux server. From personal experience I can

Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-14 Thread Les Mikesell
Tilman Schmidt wrote: Am 13.02.2010 00:54 schrieb David F. Skoll: I must confess, I've never understood people who administer Linux servers, yet don't run a Linux desktop. Heck, run Linux in VMWare if you must, but at least use proper desktop tools to administer a Linux server. From personal

[Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)

2010-02-12 Thread David F. Skoll
Cliff Hayes wrote: I don't have any linux servers with GUIs. Will it work with Windows? I must confess, I've never understood people who administer Linux servers, yet don't run a Linux desktop. Heck, run Linux in VMWare if you must, but at least use proper desktop tools to administer a