contacts.abuse.net (was Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam)

2007-01-30 Thread David F. Skoll
Jan-Pieter Cornet wrote: > If you have a domain, like, example.com, to contact in abuse > cases (eg as learned from reverse DNS), just do a DNS query for > "example.com.contacts.abuse.net": TXT records are contact addresses, A > records list the number of contacts, and HINFO tells you if the cont

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-30 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 02:58:53PM -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: > Philip Prindeville wrote: > > Simply saying, "One of your customers tried to spam me, > > but I rejected it... here are the logs" isn't enough. They > > insist that I give them a copy of the message > > I think that's perfectly rea

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-29 Thread WBrown
Since the receiving end user is the one initiating the complaint (to their ISP), they are the one that should provide the offending email, including all headers. Without it, their ISP should decline to procede any further. No on need violate anyone privacy. --- The Vista Content Protection spe

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-29 Thread David F. Skoll
Philip Prindeville wrote: > Simply saying, "One of your customers tried to spam me, > but I rejected it... here are the logs" isn't enough. They > insist that I give them a copy of the message I think that's perfectly reasonable. If you are initiating a complaint against someone, it's up to you

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-29 Thread Kelson
Philip Prindeville wrote: And I don't care if it means snooping their clients' email and invading their privacy... that's their problem, not mine). It's your problem as soon as someone sends a spam complaint to *your* ISP. If you want ISPs to snoop on their clients' email and invade their pr

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-29 Thread Richard Laager
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 11:56 -0700, Philip Prindeville wrote: > Has anyone got the changes to do this? I haven't used the MIMEDefang quarantine features, but maybe they'll help. If nothing else, you could just copy INPUTMSG somewhere... If I was going to report things to ISPs, I'd take things a st

Re: [Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-29 Thread Rob MacGregor
On 1/29/07, Philip Prindeville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I suppose I'll have to create a new mailbox in Cyrus for that too... (scratching head, trying to remember how to do that...) This part I can help with :) Create the user: saslpasswd2 -c newuser Create the mailbox: cyradm --user admin

[Mimedefang] On pinheaded ISP's that insist on a copy of Spam

2007-01-29 Thread Philip Prindeville
I'm dealing with a lot of idiot ISP's that seem to think that it's my responsibility to keep logging on their customers' activity. Simply saying, "One of your customers tried to spam me, but I rejected it... here are the logs" isn't enough. They insist that I give them a copy of the message (sinc