Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-15 Thread -
--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Ben Kamen bka...@benjammin.net wrote: I've been using spampoison.com of late. Kinda makes me laugh. I use that resource too. My web server's malicious robot list is shared with the mail server - so robot sources get locked out from sending mail. At the firewall level,

Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-14 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Why shouldn't I find some honey-pot addresses and submit submit them to subscribe? Because, IMO, that subverts the purpose of honeypots. A honeypot is designed as a passive spammer attractor; actively subscribing someone

Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-14 Thread Kelson
On 1/14/2010 10:05 AM, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote: David F. Skolld...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Why shouldn't I find some honey-pot addresses and submit submit them to subscribe? Because, IMO, that subverts the purpose of honeypots. A honeypot is designed as a passive

Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-14 Thread WBrown
Kelson wrote on 01/14/2010 02:43:35 PM: It's not the effect that's at issue, it's the process. The whole point of a honeypot is that you have a guarantee that no one has ever requested that mail go to that address, so any mail sent there is unsolicited by definition. If you subscribe an

Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-14 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Kelson wrote on 01/14/2010 02:43:35 PM: It's not the effect that's at issue, it's the process. The whole point of a honeypot is that you have a guarantee that no one has ever requested that mail go to that address, so any mail sent there is unsolicited by definition.

Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-14 Thread -
Playing games with spammers is fun. You could always do something like this: DNS records: fake.hostname.example.com. IN MX 10 tarbaby.junkemailfilter.com. MX 20 mail.example.invalid. MX 30 localhost.

Re: [Mimedefang] Spam ethics question

2010-01-14 Thread Ben Kamen
On 1/14/2010 4:12 PM, - wrote: I had that for a bit where my low priority MX host was routed to self and SBC (Ameritech) used to reject any email from as their servers knew the seconday/low-priority route was bogus. Poo. -Ben -- Ben Kamen - O.D.T., S.P.