Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-27 Thread Kris Deugau
Marcus Schopen wrote: Am Freitag, den 24.08.2018, 10:50 -0400 schrieb Dianne Skoll: I think this is a terrible idea for two reasons: 1) What is the recipient supposed to do with the notification? Most recipients are not technically savvy and are more likely to panic than do anything else. Th

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 23:35:54 +0200 Marcus Schopen wrote: > That might me right in most of the cases. But if you do a "silent" > reject, this has to be communicated very clearly to the recipient, as > well as rejecting at a spamassassin score of >= 5. This is nothing you > can decide on your own a

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Marcus Schopen
Hi, Am Freitag, den 24.08.2018, 10:50 -0400 schrieb Dianne Skoll: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:10:41 +0200 > Marcus Schopen wrote: > > > That's why I want to reject it, but inform the recipient - > > not the sender - about the rejection. > > I think this is a terrible idea for two reasons: > > 1)

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Jeff Makey
Apparently MIMEDefang has no action_notify_recpients() feature, presumably because of the dangers Dianne described. resend_message() isn't quite the right thing, either, but may have code you can repurpose. If you are willing to risk the dangers of both bouncing and forwarding a message, then in

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:10:41 +0200 Marcus Schopen wrote: > That's why I want to reject it, but inform the recipient - > not the sender - about the rejection. I think this is a terrible idea for two reasons: 1) What is the recipient supposed to do with the notification? Most recipients are not

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Dave Osbourne
On 2018-08-24 11:10, Marcus Schopen wrote: I don't agree. Rejecting a virus email means not receiving it from the law side. If you accept an email or just drop it, the problem is on your side. That's why I want to reject it, but inform the recipient - not the sender - about the rejection. I agr

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Marcus Schopen
Am Freitag, den 24.08.2018, 08:42 + schrieb Paul Murphy: > > > a REJECT is not a bounce, its a denied to accept it > > A REJECT is potentially likely to cause a bounce, but yeah... it > > won't > > be backscatter from your machine. > > Plus a REJECT is only possible if you don't stream by rec

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Murphy
>> a REJECT is not a bounce, its a denied to accept it >A REJECT is potentially likely to cause a bounce, but yeah... it won't be backscatter from your machine. Plus a REJECT is only possible if you don't stream by recipient. If you have streamed, it becomes a bounce. Either way, nobody cares

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-23 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 19:50:44 +0200 Benny Pedersen via MIMEDefang wrote: > a REJECT is not a bounce, its a denied to accept it A REJECT is potentially likely to cause a bounce, but yeah... it won't be backscatter from your machine. > i dont use mimedefang, its not very good examples of doing any

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-23 Thread Marcus Schopen
Am Donnerstag, den 23.08.2018, 19:50 +0200 schrieb Benny Pedersen via MIMEDefang: > Paul Murphy skrev den 2018-08-23 18:49: > > Yes, but pointless - either just drop the attachment, or drop the > > whole message with action_discard. Don't bounce it > > a REJECT is not a bounce, its a denied to ac

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-23 Thread Benny Pedersen via MIMEDefang
Paul Murphy skrev den 2018-08-23 18:49: Yes, but pointless - either just drop the attachment, or drop the whole message with action_discard. Don't bounce it a REJECT is not a bounce, its a denied to accept it - back scatter is more likely to get you blacklisted than just about anything else

Re: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-23 Thread Paul Murphy
dress. Paul. -Original Message- From: MIMEDefang [mailto:mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Schopen Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 4:50 PM To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: [Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender Hi, in ca

[Mimedefang] action_drop_with_warning and refuse to sender

2018-08-23 Thread Marcus Schopen
Hi, in case of a virus I'd like to refuse with a "554 5.7.1" and send a warning email to the recipiet with "action_drop_with_warning". A mixture of "action_bounce" and "action_drop_with_warning". Is that possible? Cheers m ___ NOTE: If there is a discl