Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-08 Thread Jacek Caban
On 11/07/12 21:27, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > Erik van Pienbroek schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 00:01 [+0200]: >> I could try to write a >> script which tries to mass rebuild all these packages against recent >> mingw-w64 snapshots and report any breakage automatically > Hi, > > In the last couple of

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-07 Thread Ozkan Sezer
On 11/7/12, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > Erik van Pienbroek schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 00:01 [+0200]: >> I could try to write a >> script which tries to mass rebuild all these packages against recent >> mingw-w64 snapshots and report any breakage automatically > > Hi, > > In the last couple of day

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-07 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Erik van Pienbroek schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 00:01 [+0200]: > I could try to write a > script which tries to mass rebuild all these packages against recent > mingw-w64 snapshots and report any breakage automatically Hi, In the last couple of days I've been working on a mass rebuild script which

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-06 Thread JonY
On 11/6/2012 16:57, JonY wrote: > > Actually, according to > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/28d5ce15%28v=vs.80%29.aspx > > In Visual C++ 2005, vswprintf conforms to the ISO C Standard, which > requires the second parameter, count, of type size_t. To force the old > nonstandard behavior,

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-06 Thread JonY
On 11/5/2012 21:31, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: > 2012/11/5 JonY > >> On 11/5/2012 21:16, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: >>> 2012/11/5 JonY >>> On 11/5/2012 20:44, Ozkan Sezer wrote: > > If older gcc (I guess 4.6 is common as the old gcc) is OK with it, then > please go ahead. When

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-05 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/11/5 JonY > On 11/5/2012 21:16, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: > > 2012/11/5 JonY > > > >> On 11/5/2012 20:44, Ozkan Sezer wrote: > >>> > >>> If older gcc (I guess 4.6 is common as the old gcc) is OK with it, then > >>> please go ahead. > >> > >> When you put it that way, it suddenly hit me that th

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-05 Thread JonY
On 11/5/2012 21:16, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: > 2012/11/5 JonY > >> On 11/5/2012 20:44, Ozkan Sezer wrote: >>> >>> If older gcc (I guess 4.6 is common as the old gcc) is OK with it, then >>> please go ahead. >> >> When you put it that way, it suddenly hit me that the vfwsprintf will >> not really wo

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-05 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/11/5 JonY > On 11/5/2012 20:44, Ozkan Sezer wrote: > > > > If older gcc (I guess 4.6 is common as the old gcc) is OK with it, then > > please go ahead. > > When you put it that way, it suddenly hit me that the vfwsprintf will > not really work if the user set -std=c++11 without including any

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-05 Thread JonY
On 11/5/2012 20:44, Ozkan Sezer wrote: > > If older gcc (I guess 4.6 is common as the old gcc) is OK with it, then > please go ahead. When you put it that way, it suddenly hit me that the vfwsprintf will not really work if the user set -std=c++11 without including any C++ headers first. Such as w

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-05 Thread Ozkan Sezer
On 11/5/12, JonY wrote: > On 10/29/2012 01:30, Kai Tietz wrote: >> JonY, >> >> please sent patch upstream to gcc's and libstdc++'s ML. Add me CC and >> please mention that I ok'ed patch on IRC. I won't be able to reply >> next week myself. >> >> Cheers, >> Kai >> > > OK, it's in, but I forgot to

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-11-05 Thread JonY
On 10/29/2012 01:30, Kai Tietz wrote: > JonY, > > please sent patch upstream to gcc's and libstdc++'s ML. Add me CC and > please mention that I ok'ed patch on IRC. I won't be able to reply > next week myself. > > Cheers, > Kai > OK, it's in, but I forgot to announce it. To use std::to_string

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread NightStrike
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > To sum it up I would like to propose the following: > * Publish unstable releases (from the trunk branch) periodically > (this can be time based) Are you volunteering for this? Right now, we only have one release manager. We're a s

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread Kai Tietz
JonY, please sent patch upstream to gcc's and libstdc++'s ML. Add me CC and please mention that I ok'ed patch on IRC. I won't be able to reply next week myself. Cheers, Kai 2012/10/28 JonY : > On 10/28/2012 21:16, Kai Tietz wrote: >> 2012/10/28 Erik van Pienbroek : >>> JonY schreef op zo 28-10

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread JonY
On 10/28/2012 21:16, Kai Tietz wrote: > 2012/10/28 Erik van Pienbroek : >> JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 19:08 [+0800]: >>> On 10/28/2012 18:33, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 10:42 [+0800]: > Does that include several large C++ programs? I need to test a pat

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread Kai Tietz
2012/10/28 Erik van Pienbroek : > JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 19:08 [+0800]: >> On 10/28/2012 18:33, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: >> > JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 10:42 [+0800]: >> >> Does that include several large C++ programs? I need to test a patch for >> >> trunk headers. >> >> >> >> If

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 19:08 [+0800]: > On 10/28/2012 18:33, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > > JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 10:42 [+0800]: > >> Does that include several large C++ programs? I need to test a patch for > >> trunk headers. > >> > >> If so, I can push in the less invasive cha

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread JonY
On 10/28/2012 18:33, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 10:42 [+0800]: >> Does that include several large C++ programs? I need to test a patch for >> trunk headers. >> >> If so, I can push in the less invasive change and hopefully it should >> not affect any builds. > > Y

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-28 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
JonY schreef op zo 28-10-2012 om 10:42 [+0800]: > Does that include several large C++ programs? I need to test a patch for > trunk headers. > > If so, I can push in the less invasive change and hopefully it should > not affect any builds. Yes, we also provide various large C++ libraries, like for

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-27 Thread JonY
On 10/28/2012 06:01, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: > Jacek Caban schreef op do 25-10-2012 om 14:51 [+0200]: >> A few more words about ensuring stability: We mostly know what risky >> changes have been made and we occasionally hear back from users when >> something breaks. I myself would know quickly if

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-27 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Jacek Caban schreef op do 25-10-2012 om 14:51 [+0200]: > A few more words about ensuring stability: We mostly know what risky > changes have been made and we occasionally hear back from users when > something breaks. I myself would know quickly if something really bad > happened. I do Mozilla code

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-27 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Kai Tietz schreef op wo 24-10-2012 om 21:19 [+0200]: > Hello everybody, > > I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's > release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right > now we do the major-release by gut feeling with a background plan > about feat

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-26 Thread Jon
> So I would like to get your opinion. You might have complete > different opinion about planning mingw-w64's release-cycles, so don't > hesitate to tell us what you think about this subject. First, thanks for keeping the discussion open. It has been informative so far. Second, as a consumer of

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-26 Thread JonY
On 10/25/2012 17:17, JonY wrote: > On 10/25/2012 15:04, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: >> Currently, trunk has several new features, some of which have matured quite >> a while ago (I'm looking at you, large file support for C streams). It also >> has some more WIP stuff. >> > > If any branching is going

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-25 Thread NightStrike
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jacek Caban wrote: > On 10/24/12 21:19, Kai Tietz wrote: >> So I would like to get your opinion. You might have complete >> different opinion about planning mingw-w64's release-cycles, so don't >> hesitate to tell us what you think about this subject. > > I've nev

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-25 Thread Jacek Caban
On 10/24/12 21:19, Kai Tietz wrote: > So I would like to get your opinion. You might have complete > different opinion about planning mingw-w64's release-cycles, so don't > hesitate to tell us what you think about this subject. Current release-cycles strategy works fine for me, but now that you m

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-25 Thread NightStrike
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: > 2012/10/24 Kai Tietz >> >> Hello everybody, >> >> I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's >> release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right >> now we do the major-release by gut feeling

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-25 Thread JonY
On 10/25/2012 15:04, Ruben Van Boxem wrote: > 2012/10/24 Kai Tietz > >> Hello everybody, >> >> I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's >> release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right >> now we do the major-release by gut feeling with a backgr

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-25 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/10/24 Kai Tietz > Hello everybody, > > I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's > release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right > now we do the major-release by gut feeling with a background plan > about features new version shall include.

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-24 Thread K. Frank
Hello Kai! On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Kai Tietz wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's > release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right > now we do the major-release by gut feeling with a background plan > a

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-24 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Kai Tietz wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's > release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right > now we do the major-release by gut feeling with a background plan > about feature

[Mingw-w64-public] RFC: How shall we plan releases of new major versions?

2012-10-24 Thread Kai Tietz
Hello everybody, I want to raise this discussion on public mailing-list, as mingw-w64's release-cycle might be also of interest to some of our users. Right now we do the major-release by gut feeling with a background plan about features new version shall include. Now I got the request to do maj