Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Woodchuck
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Kim Naim Lesmer wrote: > The Portable C Compiler (PCC) was written in mid-1970s. PCC shipped > with BSD Unix until the release of 4.4BSD in 1994. > > The history of Ada is? About 10 years younger. So? Dave

Re: Error updating 4.2 - permission denied (Solved)

2007-12-23 Thread kim
Jason George wrote: === I have cleared the /usr/src directory and reloaded the tree from the CD, and gone through the whole process again, but get the same error. >>> This is the second time

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread bofh
On Dec 23, 2007 1:40 PM, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/22/07, Brian Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. Rather than auditing a lot of code, correcting a lot of coding > mistakes, > > like the OpenBSD security team has done, and still do, why not shift > from C > > to somethin

Re: Marry Christmas!

2007-12-23 Thread V. Karthik Kumar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We first thought we'd sue you, but we are okay with many Santas during this season... Merry Christmas, Ho-ho-ho! The Santa Claus Company North Pole Marco Peereboom wrote: > Christmas is a pagan holiday so it really does not matter if one is > religi

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread b666
I have been trying to learn programming for a long time. Admittedly, I've wasted a good amount of time trying to find the right language to start. I eventually came across Ada. I read all about it and bought into all the stuff that you've mentioned. I even spent a couple of hundred dollars

Re: pf + wii

2007-12-23 Thread scott
1. use # tcpdump -eni pflog0 2. if that's not revealing then post its output AND the whole pf.conf file. 3. in the mean time, consider rdr PASS on $IF_RR proto udp from $REMOTE_IP to ($IF_RR) -> $HOST_WII where PASS is in lower case inside the pf.conf (UCASE here for emphasis only) /S -Or

pf + wii

2007-12-23 Thread slug bait
The Problem: I am unable to play Guitar Hero on the Internet with ANYONE through my OpenBSD-4.2 nat gateway. This might not be a problem with pf, but two of my friends are able to rock out with each other and with strangers... one through a linux gateway and the other through a linksys (!!!) WAP

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Rico Secada
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:11:55 -0600 Marco Peereboom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a constant: your code is a bad as the developer. I agree :-), and here is another constant: #define strlcpy "Theo de Raadt" >From lwn.net in 2003: Years of buffer overflow problems have made it clear that t

Re: Marry Christmas!

2007-12-23 Thread steve szmidt
On Sunday 23 December 2007, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: > to you all, religious or not! > > P.S. and Happy New Year! > > //Santa Very thoughtful, the same to you! :) -- Steve Szmidt "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Re: Marry Christmas!

2007-12-23 Thread Unix Fan
Who the heck is Marry? :P Typically one spells it "Merry", not "Marry". Please spank the evil monkey who taught you English -Scrooge (Aka, Nix Fan..)

Re: dhcpd misleading documentation about the interaction between "fixed-address" statement and -L option

2007-12-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:49:45PM -0600, Max Hayden Chiz wrote: > Unless I am doing something silly, dhcpd(8) may not be accurate > regarding how the "fixed-address" statement and -L option > inter-operate. > > Yesterday I discovered that when you assign a DHCP client an IP > address using the "f

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Re: Marry Christmas!

2007-12-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
Christmas is a pagan holiday so it really does not matter if one is religious or not. On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:11:46PM +0100, Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: > to you all, religious or not! > > P.S. and Happy New Year! > > //Santa

Re: Marry Christmas!

2007-12-23 Thread Grumpy
> to you all, religious or not! Religious or not, I consider the fact that you seem to be concerned about Xmas and not about the Solstice, really offensive. Grumpy

Re: Is there a L2TP daemon port?

2007-12-23 Thread Reyk Floeter
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:04:08AM -0800, johan beisser wrote: > My complaint with the "-w" option is not a lack of it working (works > great), but lack of support through every OS out there; you need to > have a tun driver, also be able to configure the remote side > interface, not to mentio

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On 12/22/07, Brian Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Rather than auditing a lot of code, correcting a lot of coding mistakes, > like the OpenBSD security team has done, and still do, why not shift from C > to something, just as fast and powerfull as C, but more secure? Again like > Ada. (to co

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:06:34PM +0100, Brian Hansen wrote: > Hi. > > I address this issue on this list, because a lot of people here are very > skillfull C programmers. Unlike you. You're not even skilled at looking through mailing-list archives. This specific subject has already been debated

Re: Is there a L2TP daemon port?

2007-12-23 Thread johan beisser
On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:42 AM, scott wrote: RE: tunnelblick you should look at ssh -w tun0:tun0 ... option; it's comparatively new and a tad under documented but works nicely, albeit on tcp. My complaint with the "-w" option is not a lack of it working (works great), but lack of support thr

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:11:55AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > I even found a use for C++! Encapsulating the win32 api using Borland > VCL makes it almost useful and a whole lot less painful. Thats about as > good as I have seen C++ be; everything else is downhill. But isn't the VCL written i

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
So lets get the story straight. Ada is great but the compiler sucks. Winning combination for an open source os. On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Rico Secada wrote: > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:11:50 +1100 > "Christopher Vance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have used and taught Ada, for

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 09:12:53AM +0100, Rico Secada wrote: > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:39 -0600 > "David Higgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 22, 2007 5:53 PM, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It is my understanding that C is the hackers tool while Ada is the > > > too

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Kim Naim Lesmer
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:08:05 +0100 Erik Wikstrvm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-22 12:06, Brian Hansen wrote: > Hi. > > I address this issue on this list, because a lot of people here are > very skillfull C programmers. > > When looking at some of the different "reasons for security > pro

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Rico Secada
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:11:50 +1100 "Christopher Vance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have used and taught Ada, for what that's worth. I also looked at > Ada for writing OS kernel code, but the quality of the compilers > forced me back to the C family. What compilers? > Question for the proponen

Re: OpenBSD 4.1 - NAT + ttl=0 trouble -solved!

2007-12-23 Thread gentoo1
gentoo1 wrote: > > Hello :) > > I use OpenBSD 4.1 for gateway for my laptop. I set in my pf.conf file : > nat on fxp0 from rl0:network to any -> fxp0 ..and other rules. OK and > I have Internet on my laptop. Worked fine! But yesterday my ISP set ttl > to 0 ---> ttl=0... and now i try to chang

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Christopher Vance
I have used and taught Ada, for what that's worth. I also looked at Ada for writing OS kernel code, but the quality of the compilers forced me back to the C family. Question for the proponents of Ada: how many operating system kernels do you know of which are written in Ada? Now answer the same qu

Re: Is there a L2TP daemon port?

2007-12-23 Thread scott
RE: tunnelblick you should look at ssh -w tun0:tun0 ... option; it's comparatively new and a tad under documented but works nicely, albeit on tcp. -Original Message- From: johan beisser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sunnz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject:

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Rico Secada
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 01:06:39 -0600 "David Higgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 22, 2007 5:53 PM, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is my understanding that C is the hackers tool while Ada is the > > tool of the engineer. I think it is mostly because of tradition. > > Your und