Process monitoring

2014-01-15 Thread Cyrus
I am looking for ways to monitor processes on the system in the long term. It would be helpful to get a bigger picture about how the individual processes of users contribute to load averages. It would go a long way in diagnosing problems related to load. -- CYRUSERV Onionland Hosting: http://cyru

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread j
How about a $10 tax on top-posters. A little more seriously, you might get some professional help from a university or charity "development officer". These people raise money for a living. Ask some for some advice. One of the issues will be: financial statements for the organization. It's

Re: Help: missing apt-get command after installing OpenBSD.

2014-01-15 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 07:33:28PM +0530, Jiya desai wrote: > Hi, > > I am new baby in this world and basically doing little experiment task to > install apache, perl and foswiki on openbsd > > I am using Microsoft Virtual PC . I downloaded the file OpenBSDinstall54.iso > and installed OpenBSD.

Re: Make CPU use the C2 state

2014-01-15 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 04:20, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > CPU speed. Some users only want to change the CPU speed and others want > to increase the battery life of their laptops even if the laptop runs > slightly slower. Inevitably, you will need add also a new sysctl entry heh, well,

Re: Make CPU use the C2 state

2014-01-15 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:20:27AM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM, John Rogers wrote: > > I'm not an expert on this but my theory is that the problem is not > > that the CPU is running too fast but rather that it is running in a > > high power state, presumably C0

Re: OpenNTPD and NTP reflection attacks

2014-01-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
>I have a question about OpenNTPD now that NTP reflection attacks are in >the news. OpenBSD produces and uses its own OpenNTPD, primarily written >by Henning and made portable by Darren Tucker. > >The following website: > > http://openntpproject.org/ > >is an important effort to minimize reflectio

Apache able to open tty

2014-01-15 Thread David Sticht
Understanding the risks I am wanting to either allow the www user right to open tty or change the user running the apache daemon. I am developing a suite of intranet tools with perl to perform some network diagnostics. Does anybody have a suggestion to move me in the right direction? Sent from

Re: signify - verification failed

2014-01-15 Thread Ville Valkonen
On 15 January 2014 23:19, Eivind Eide wrote: > Installing packages suddenly fail with latest snapshot. > > Running i386 snapshot: > OpenBSD 5.5-beta (GENERIC) #231: Tue Jan 14 10:40:22 MST 2014 > dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC > > Problem appears as: > > sudo p

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Vincent Gross
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 06:25:53PM +0200, MJ wrote: > > I have long held the opinion that Theo is probably the best coder on this > planet. That?s not any sort of ass-kissing, either, it?s my objective, > unbiased opinion. And I know Henning personally, as in ?live and worked > together with hi

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Franchini Fabien
Hello, It seems that my idea was not read and in my opinion the discussion turns in a wrong way. I don't believe that donations and/or a kind of rent will solve our problem in long-term (as Theo says in a previous mail). I'm pretty sure that the majority of companies doesn't read undeadly.org

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Bennett
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 06:25:53PM +0200, MJ wrote: > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 16.35, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: > > > Dear Theo, > > > >> Don't we do enough? > > > > You already do too much. > > I have long held the opinion that Theo is probably the best coder on this > planet. That’s not any sort o

signify - verification failed

2014-01-15 Thread Eivind Eide
Installing packages suddenly fail with latest snapshot. Running i386 snapshot: OpenBSD 5.5-beta (GENERIC) #231: Tue Jan 14 10:40:22 MST 2014 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC Problem appears as: sudo pkg_add -iv ImageMagick Update candidates: quirks-1.106 -> qui

Re: OpenNTPD and NTP reflection attacks

2014-01-15 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Nicolai wrote: > So, is it correct to say that OpenNTPD is immune from generating large > amplifications? (Recent articles on the subject mention 100x > amplification factors!) It looks like the recent CVEs are about ntp.org ntpd implementing some private extens

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Gabriel Guzman
On 01/14, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Nicolai, and others, > > I'd like to take the opportunity to thank all of those stepping up > to the call for contributions. Every little bit helps. > > For those who ask, the OpenBSD Foundation is the best path for > contributions. > > I hope some larger contri

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Paulo Manoel Mafra
Hi guys, how about produce energy (solar energy, wind power generators, etc) ? Has anyone some idea if it is possible and its cost ? Maybe someone can donate this kind of material... On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:22:47AM -0800, agrquinonez wrote: * On 15/01/14 10:31 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: * > pre

OpenNTPD and NTP reflection attacks

2014-01-15 Thread Nicolai
Hi everyone, I have a question about OpenNTPD now that NTP reflection attacks are in the news. OpenBSD produces and uses its own OpenNTPD, primarily written by Henning and made portable by Darren Tucker. The following website: http://openntpproject.org/ is an important effort to minimize refl

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Peter J. Philipp wrote: > On 01/15/14 19:41, Martin Schröder wrote: >> 2014/1/15 Sia Lang : >>> That small donation wouldn't have amounted to much, but I am positive you >>> being the leader of this project is the very reason no one wants to step up >>> with seriou

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread agrquinonez
On 15/01/14 10:31 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > previously on this list agrquinonez contributed: > >> The other idea, is Members, every one of us could give five dollars per >> month to keep the privilege of using OpenBSD; receiving information, >> participating in the list, etc. > > I think that wou

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On 01/15/14 19:41, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2014/1/15 Sia Lang : >> That small donation wouldn't have amounted to much, but I am positive you >> being the leader of this project is the very reason no one wants to step up >> with serious funding. > > Him being the leader is the very reason this pro

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 07:41:03PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote: > Him being the leader is the very reason this project still exists. The thing about OpenBSD is that it has a very clear and strong focus. This comes from clear and strong leadership. Is Theo right on everything? Of course not. None

Re: PPPoE problem

2014-01-15 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
> Does it work with a configuration such as this? > > inet 123.123.123.1 255.255.255.128 NONE \ > pppoedev em2 authproto pap \ > authname '@solcon.net' authkey '' up > dest 0.0.0.1 > ! /sbin/route add default 123.123.123.1 > > I'm using a configuration like that with static IP over

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
> The point behind unnumbered is that the ppp interface *doesn't* have an > IP, usually this is when the WAN address is inside a routed subnet. > Since PPP is layer2, IP addresses aren't actually needed. Indeed. Kind regards, Martijn Rijkeboer

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
> Can you show what you tried (e.g. ifconfig -A output)? Unfortunately I can't since my ISP has changed the setup to a static route and that is now operational (no PPPoE anymore). Kind regards, Martijn Rijkeboer

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
> My setup is exactly like this. The physical interface do not have an ip > address and the pppoe also do not have an ip address until the > concentrator provides one: > > inet 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 NONE \ > pppoedev authproto pap \ > authname 'user' authkey 'pass' up > dest 0.0.0

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Martin Schröder
2014/1/15 Sia Lang : > That small donation wouldn't have amounted to much, but I am positive you > being the leader of this project is the very reason no one wants to step up > with serious funding. Him being the leader is the very reason this project still exists. Best Martin

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Sia Lang
Theo, In situations like this, it might be a good idea to come down from your high horse (it's a mostly irrelevant OS anyway) and start treating people offering ideas - good or bad- with some f*cking respect. I fortunately read through the thread before NOT donating. That small donation wouldn'

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list agrquinonez contributed: > The other idea, is Members, every one of us could give five dollars per > month to keep the privilege of using OpenBSD; receiving information, > participating in the list, etc. I think that would strangle the project and possibly prevent future d

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:28:19 -0700 (MST) Theo de Raadt wrote: > That's a great idea. > > I'm going drag a subgroup of the developers away from software > development and we'll start working on that instead. > > Right away. > > To fund the drilling, we'll hold a bake sale. Fair enough just thou

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread agrquinonez
On 15/01/14 08:25 AM, MJ wrote: > On 15 Jan 2014, at 16.35, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: > >> Dear Theo, >> >>> Don't we do enough? >> >> You already do too much. > > I have long held the opinion that Theo is probably the best coder on this planet. That’s not any sort of ass-kissing, either, it’s my obje

Re: X11 graphics corruption on intel card

2014-01-15 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 06:35:40PM +0100, Norman Golisz said that > On Wed Jan 15 2014 18:06, frantisek holop wrote: > > nobody seeing this on i915? > > No, everything fine on my Thinkpad T400. it seems this is not a i915... i dont know if other integrated intel cards are affected, it seems

Re: X11 graphics corruption on intel card

2014-01-15 Thread Norman Golisz
On Wed Jan 15 2014 18:06, frantisek holop wrote: > nobody seeing this on i915? No, everything fine on my Thinkpad T400. You already tried -current, right? Though I didn't had this error with the snapshot from Dec, 28. either. dmesg and Xorg.log attached. OpenBSD 5.5-beta (GENERIC.MP) #267: Sun J

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread matteo filippetto
15 EUR donation Thanks devs for your great work! -- Matteo Filippetto http://www.op83.eu

Re: Help: missing apt-get command after installing OpenBSD.

2014-01-15 Thread Francois Pussault
hi, it's called pkg_add you can set the ftp path in a variable : export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.4/packages/i386/ then use man pkg_add (it's as simple as apt-get) for example pkg_add -iv somepackage > > From: Jiya desai > Sent: Wed J

Re: X11 graphics corruption on intel card

2014-01-15 Thread frantisek holop
nobody seeing this on i915? -f -- there are no skeptics in hell.

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread MJ
On 15 Jan 2014, at 16.35, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: > Dear Theo, > >> Don't we do enough? > > You already do too much. I have long held the opinion that Theo is probably the best coder on this planet. That’s not any sort of ass-kissing, either, it’s my objective, unbiased opinion. And I know Hen

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Gilles LAMIRAL
Dear Theo, Don't we do enough? You already do too much. Regarding the swag. The entire OpenBSD project now probably gets 1/4 of revenue out of CD Why don't you do for the website software downloads what you do for the CDs? Make users pay the downloads from the official website as you make

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Bob Beck
Yes, I believe so - and we'll be ramping that up shortly . but realisticly the need is for donations in general - electricity is one thing that the funding can be applied to. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Luca Ferrari wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Bob Beck wrote: >> And actually,

Re: Help: missing apt-get command after installing OpenBSD.

2014-01-15 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 07:33:28PM +0530, Jiya desai wrote: > I am new baby in this world and basically doing little experiment task to > install apache, perl and foswiki on openbsd > > I am using Microsoft Virtual PC . I downloaded the file OpenBSDinstall54.iso > and installed OpenBSD. > > No

Re: bwi0: intr fatal TX/RX ([01]) error 0x00001000 (continuously streaming)

2014-01-15 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 15/01/14(Wed) 15:27, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:11:27AM +0100, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > On 14/01/14(Tue) 16:21, Sunny Raspet wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > Running 5.4-RELEASE/macppc on a Mac PowerBook G4, attempting to > > > interact with the built-in bwi(4) card re

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Joe Holden
On 15/01/2014 12:58, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Em 15-01-2014 06:20, Martijn Rijkeboer escreveu: Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? And what the heck you mean by "unnumbered"? If it is wildcard address, and by it, that the pppoe access concentrator provides t

Re: bwi0: intr fatal TX/RX ([01]) error 0x00001000 (continuously streaming)

2014-01-15 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:11:27AM +0100, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > On 14/01/14(Tue) 16:21, Sunny Raspet wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Running 5.4-RELEASE/macppc on a Mac PowerBook G4, attempting to > > interact with the built-in bwi(4) card results in badness. > > Sadly this is a know issue on most o

Re: Help: missing apt-get command after installing OpenBSD.

2014-01-15 Thread ag@gmail
The first step before you install a new OS, is to go through the documentation, and at least read the relevant sections - installation and initial configuration. You seem to have skipped this critical step, so please head over to http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ And yes, unlike some other OSes, the

Re: Help: missing apt-get command after installing OpenBSD.

2014-01-15 Thread Aaron
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Jiya desai wrote: > Hi, > > I am new baby in this world and basically doing little experiment task to > install apache, perl and foswiki on openbsd > > I am using Microsoft Virtual PC . I downloaded the file OpenBSDinstall54.iso > and installed OpenBSD. > > Now I

Help: missing apt-get command after installing OpenBSD.

2014-01-15 Thread Jiya desai
Hi, I am new baby in this world and basically doing little experiment task to install apache, perl and foswiki on openbsd I am using Microsoft Virtual PC . I downloaded the file OpenBSDinstall54.iso and installed OpenBSD. Now I see that I am not able to get basic commands that i used to get in

Re: bwi0: intr fatal TX/RX ([01]) error 0x00001000 (continuously streaming)

2014-01-15 Thread Sunny Raspet
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > On 14/01/14(Tue) 16:21, Sunny Raspet wrote: >> Running 5.4-RELEASE/macppc on a Mac PowerBook G4, attempting to >> interact with the built-in bwi(4) card results in badness. > > Sadly this is a know issue on most of the macppc machine having

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Franchini Fabien
How about to write a letter/email in the name of the OpenBSD Fundation to each company who use OpenBSD products ? I'm sure that the majority of theses company doesn't read undeadly.org and doesn't even know that we need support. Best regards De : Berger

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 15-01-2014 06:20, Martijn Rijkeboer escreveu: >>> Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? >> And what the heck you mean by "unnumbered"? If it is wildcard address, >> and by it, that the pppoe access concentrator provides the ip addres, >> then yes, it works. For u

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Berger Steffan
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:56:14PM -0600, Kent R. Spillner wrote: > Anyways, talk is cheap so I'm going to go make a donation now. If everyone > reading this did the same this thread could die, and OpenBSD wouldn't. i've just spent a few dollars and I try to do it more often. Nevertheless, it is

Re: PPPoE problem

2014-01-15 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 08:01:39PM +0100, Martijn Rijkeboer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to setup a PPPoE connection to my ISP (solcon.nl). I've read > pppoe(4) and pppoe(8) and got the following configuration: > > cat /etc/hostname.pppoe0 > inet 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 NONE \ > pppoedev

Re: NAT reliability in light of recent checksum changes

2014-01-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-01-14, Richard Procter wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using OpenBSD 5.3 to provide an Alix-based home firewall. Thank > you all for the commitment to elegant, well-documented software which > isn't pernicious to the mental health of its users. > > I've a question about the new checksum changes[

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-01-15, Romain FABBRI - Alien Consulting wrote: > It's been a while I want to buy Tshirts and sweatshirts but they never are > available (right size for some, total availability for others). > I mean if CD's and shirts do weight for a third of the the fundings... the > store should be a l

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-01-15, Martijn Rijkeboer wrote: >>> Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? > >> Untested but I think you should be able to put an address from your lan >> interface on the pppoe interface which might do what you want.. >> Worth a try anyway. > > Unfortunatel

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Luca Ferrari
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Bob Beck wrote: > And actually, if you're reading this, you can help by passing this on > to people you know *off these lists*. Is it worth to post a "call for support" on the official website front-page (and the foundation one too)? Just to emphasize the need for

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Romain FABBRI - Alien Consulting
It's been a while I want to buy Tshirts and sweatshirts but they never are available (right size for some, total availability for others). I mean if CD's and shirts do weight for a third of the the fundings... the store should be a little more "pro" (speaking about products availabilty) It's a fa

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
>> Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? > Untested but I think you should be able to put an address from your lan > interface on the pppoe interface which might do what you want.. > Worth a try anyway. Unfortunately that doesn't work. Kind regards, Martijn Rij

Re: bwi0: intr fatal TX/RX ([01]) error 0x00001000 (continuously streaming)

2014-01-15 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 14/01/14(Tue) 16:21, Sunny Raspet wrote: > Hello! > > Running 5.4-RELEASE/macppc on a Mac PowerBook G4, attempting to > interact with the built-in bwi(4) card results in badness. Sadly this is a know issue on most of the macppc machine having a bwi(4). If somebody has more inputs I'm also int

Re: Request for Funding our Electricity

2014-01-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Loganaden Velvindron wrote: OpenSSH wouldn't be reliable if it wasn't tested on HPPA and sparc64: (I'm pretty sure I saw a bunch of commits wrt to alignment issues that were discovered on HPPA or sparc64 for OpenSSH). being myself a developer of several applications, I can only praise that

Re: PPPoE "ip unnumbered"

2014-01-15 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
>> Is it possible to create an IP unnumbered setup with PPPoE on OpenBSD? > And what the heck you mean by "unnumbered"? If it is wildcard address, > and by it, that the pppoe access concentrator provides the ip addres, > then yes, it works. For us to help you we need a little more than this. Sorr