On 1/18/14, Eric Furman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014, at 06:23 PM, MJ wrote:
> (a lot of garbage snipped)
>
>> additionally stick in a side comment regarding antiquity, then give up
>> the FTP already - it’s a dinosaur, it’s unnecessarily complex, and it
>> serves no specific purpose when HTTP is
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014, at 06:23 PM, MJ wrote:
(a lot of garbage snipped)
> additionally stick in a side comment regarding antiquity, then give up
> the FTP already - it’s a dinosaur, it’s unnecessarily complex, and it
> serves no specific purpose when HTTP is available.)
BWHAHAHAH!
This was really
MJ wrote:
> Again, and I really need to highlight this: when the project comes to the \
> position that it is asking for money or die, then the project is also in a \
> requirement to provide financial transparency.
I don't understand this attitude. It is their project, and they can ask
for mone
After building an ARM VM to build packages for a project, I was very
surprised at the 256MB limitation [of the QEMU version], when hardware was
at least 512MB.
As folks are mentioning using one for a kernel compile (good idea or not),
there must be a VM version with decent specs?
Don't suppose so
On 18 Jan 2014, at 20.01, Desktop User OpenBSD
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would love to subscribe to the monthly donation on:
>
> http://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
>
> but I need to ask, say a few things before:
>
> 1) The
> https://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
> is redirecting
On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Sia Lang wrote:
> If the tests are as good as this project claims them to be, the process
> should take exactly one test cycle. If that's the case, then the test regime
> suck big time. Logic brother. Logic.
I don't know what tests you're referring to. OpenBSD buil
On 19 Jan 2014, at 01.36, Jan Stary wrote:
>
> So, the 1 is the thought, and the 0 is the amount?
>
> Sorry, but your comments were so ridiculous I couldn't help it.
> Saying it's the thougth that counts to people who have
> repeated explicitly they need MONEY.
There you go again with your simple
On 18 Jan 2014, at 20.15, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Jan 18 16:29:46, m...@sci.fi wrote:
>> On 18 Jan 2014, at 04.33, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>> And I hope it?s the thought that counts more than the amount.
>
> LOL, yes, especially when it comes to bills being paid.
>
You, too, sir, can also take an
On 18 Jan 2014, at 22.25, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
> Mike, maybe you can stop your rambling, and just do the same. Because
> otherwise, I don't understand why you feel justified to be on this mailing
> list. You were henning's roommate, so that means that you know all about
> OpenBSD, programming,
> > The old hardware would still run while they're validating the emulators,
> > and that process would probably take a really long time.
> >
>
> If the tests are as good as this project claims them to be, the process
> should take exactly one test cycle. If that's the case, then the test
> regime
> The old hardware would still run while they're validating the emulators,
> and that process would probably take a really long time.
>
If the tests are as good as this project claims them to be, the process
should take exactly one test cycle. If that's the case, then the test
regime suck big time
Hi Karlis,
I think you may have forgotten to set PKG_PATH to new value (with 5.4 in it),
when running "pkg_add -u" after upgrading from OpenBSD 5.3 to OpenBSD 5.4.
This mistake may cause installation of old 5.3 packages into new 5.4 system.
Try to compare versions of linked libraries (ldd mutt et
> But as other people have said it probably should be a separate
> sysctl if implemented.
I completely doubt that. We've encountered this before on other processor
families, and always chosen to dumb down all the speed/power knobs to 1
user controllable knob.
Hello,
I would love to subscribe to the monthly donation on:
http://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
but I need to ask, say a few things before:
1) The
https://openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html
is redirecting to http://www.obtuse.com/
why? HTTPS should work properly or it shouldn't be th
MJ [m...@sci.fi] wrote:
>
> On 18 Jan 2014, at 04.33, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >
> > Why is there this effort to convince us to do less?
> >
>
> I do not propagate such a train of thought; only said that if you want
> corporate funding then be prepared to detail your costs and justify each and
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Philip Guenther wrote:
> C0 is the only state where the CPU does real work; the higher C-states
> only make sense for when the CPU is idle, so your question presumably
> is "does the CPU get put into a higher C-state when idle". Well,
> 5.4-current uses the MWAIT
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 01:43:26PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> I've more than halfway decided to do a writeup with the tentative
> title "OpenBSD: your best IT investment" for my blog and try to push
> the right buttons to generate attention for funding the project.
Great idea and initiat
Am 2014-01-17 16:55, schrieb Stefan Wollny:
Am Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:08:07 +0100
schrieb Lars Peter Cleary :
I agree this is a very good idea, instant feedback and gratification.
Nevertheless, I've just now donated CAD 100.- and invite everybody
else to do the same.
Kind regards
Lars
Yepp -
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Kent R. Spillner wrote:
> I notice a lot of people have suggested "use an emulator," as if that had
> never occurred to the OpenBSD developers before, but nobody has volunteered
> to verify that the available emulators are good enough to actually replace
> real
I notice a lot of people have suggested "use an emulator," as if that had never
occurred to the OpenBSD developers before, but nobody has volunteered to verify
that the available emulators are good enough to actually replace real hardware.
Also, I don't understand why anyone thinks emulation wou
If none of this helps, can you (privately) forward or bounce mail
to me that fails to display correctly?
As suggested by Stefan offlist, updating from mutt-1.4.2.3p3v0 to
mutt-1.5.21p4v0 seems to have fixed the problem.
Thank you everyone for your help!
--
Karlis
On 17 Jan 2014, at 06.05, Philip Guenther wrote:
> Ah, so if NIST looked at work done by someone completely unrelated to
> NIST and said "looks good, we'll standardize exactly what you did",
> you think that it's now contaminated by NISTs talking about it? For
> example, AES, which was designed b
On 18 Jan 2014, at 01.13, Christopher Ahrens wrote:
>
> In reality, I don't give a shit about any else who doesn't
> pay me, make my life easier or make my life more enjoyable.
Its a rare moment when I feel the need to publicly bitch-slap someone, but
you triggered it.
That statement alone, an
On 18 Jan 2014, at 04.33, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>
> Why is there this effort to convince us to do less?
>
I do not propagate such a train of thought; only said that if you want
corporate funding then be prepared to detail your costs and justify each and
every one of them as well as satisfying
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 03:25:57PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> Xterm gets stuck in a loop burning 100% cpu until you destroy it if you
> do say.
>
> xterm -hold -e /bin/ls
>
> Might a patch based on this freebsd patch fix that? The second part of
> it isn't in the xenocara tree.
>
> http://ww
Bernte fams.de> writes:
> the source tree as part of the regular 'make' call. But this way I
> managed to compile the kernel and install it.
you didn't tell us is your urtwn(4) variant working or not after installing
new kernel. new dmesg wouldn't hurt.
Mutt works OK for me with multiple sets of non-ASCII charecters,
including advanced punctuation, cyrillic, extended Latin, etc.
(Basically everything one may possibly need for English,
Serbo-Croatian,
Russian and French).
$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="C"
Dear Misc,
In re electricity, please do one of the following:
1. Send money.
2. Convince OTHER PEOPLE to send money.
3. Stop summoning the Good Idea Fairy to the developers. I have
seen the suggestions, and it's not that none of them could
possibly work. It's that all of them *woul
I've more than halfway decided to do a writeup with the tentative
title "OpenBSD: your best IT investment" for my blog and try to push
the right buttons to generate attention for funding the project.
I've been using OpenBSD for long enough to have a few favorite items
including stuff like OpenSSH
Hi,
warning: off-topic and nostalgic.
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Let's face it. OpenBSD has this as a bug reducing mechanism
> available, and most other systems do not anymore, having decided to
> chase only the market-chosen architectures. It is a true many-eyes
> "machined" solution.
>
> What oth
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Brett Lymn wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 07:33:01PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>>
>> What other community has users who commonly run upstream software on
>> 64-bit big-endian strict alignment platform with register windows
>> adjusting the frames in odd ways, o
Kārlis Miķelsons said:
> >Latin1 mail with umlauts and sz in sender's name mail body renders
> >fine here in mutt in xterm in the UTF-8 locale. So you should be
> >able to get it to work. I suspect misconfiguration rather than a bug,
> >though a bug is of course a possibility.
> >
> >What does your
I do not doubt that emulators can be useful for some things. Indeed, I
use them myself when real hardware isn't available.
but emulators have limits -- invariably they are written to emulate certain
things accurately (albeit imperfectly, because all programmers make
mistakes) while other things d
On Jan 17 20:38:05, dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
> > much power with old hardware.
>
> It is not a lot of power; that is a myth.
Having used most of the architectures out there,
can you please say which of them consume most/least power
in regular operation of OpenBSD, if you have such statistic
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