Re: Packet Filter router i368 vs 64bit

2014-11-29 Thread Blaise Hizded
On 11/28/2014 06:21 PM, trondd wrote: On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Edgar Pettijohn pettijo...@hotmail.com wrote: This is something I've been interested in trying, but I would want it as a wireless access point as well and not sure what cards are supported and work well. Does anyone

Re: smtpd: mail stuck in queue

2014-11-29 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 02:13:46AM +0200, Liviu Daia wrote: On 28 November 2014, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:00:19PM -0500, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: [...] No, it is not proper behavior. As a store and forward system with potentially 4-5 days between

ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread frantisek holop
i have written for myself a small python3 script that removes accented characters and all utf8 symbols from filenames, a kind of utf-8 to ascii sanitizer. while working on it, i created some strange test cases (e.g. »´ÁÉǑÄ«) for filenames and i was pleasently surprised that the files were

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Ville Valkonen
Hello, On 29 November 2014 at 14:02, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: i have written for myself a small python3 script that removes accented characters and all utf8 symbols from filenames, a kind of utf-8 to ascii sanitizer. Are you aware of 'detox' package? -- Regards, Ville

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread frantisek holop
frantisek holop, 29 Nov 2014 13:02: while working on it, i created some strange test cases (e.g. »´ÁÉǑÄ«) for filenames and i was pleasently surprised that the files were created/read/renamed/deleted without problems. i think i should clarify this a bit: they show perfect in midnight

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread frantisek holop
Ville Valkonen, 29 Nov 2014 14:08: Are you aware of 'detox' package? $ touch »´ÁÉǑÄ« $ detox * $ ls A_A_A_A_C_A_A_ $ touch »´ÁÉǑÄ« $ my_silly_script $ ls aeoa perhaps with some massaging detox can be made to work like my script, i dont know. but that is actually besides the point. i wrote my

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Shouldn't in 2014 the aim having all working in utf-8?

Re: smtpd: mail stuck in queue

2014-11-29 Thread Liviu Daia
On 29 November 2014, Liviu Daia liviu.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Not sure about Postfix being right, but it does solve the initial problem: you fix the relay, you run postfix -r ALL, and the messages go on their way. [...] s/postfix -r ALL/postsuper -r ALL/ Regards, Liviu

Re: smtpd: mail stuck in queue

2014-11-29 Thread Liviu Daia
On 29 November 2014, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 02:13:46AM +0200, Liviu Daia wrote: On 28 November 2014, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:00:19PM -0500, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: [...] No, it is not proper behavior. As a

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread frantisek holop
Paolo Aglialoro, 29 Nov 2014 13:56: Shouldn't in 2014 the aim having all working in utf-8? sure. but i like my filenames ascii and whitespaceless. shows my age. -f -- what a nice night for an evening. -- steven wright

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
frantisek holop said: is it true to say then, that ffs is entirely utf8 safe, and/or that ffs is actually an utf-8 encoded filesystem as IIRC Mac OS is? or is it some kind of happy accident that it works? :) As I get it, ffs is entirely utf8 safe because it is not encoding aware. With

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Lars
Hi, On 29.11.2014 13:20, frantisek holop wrote: i think i should clarify this a bit: they show perfect in midnight commander, not in shell. $ touch »´ÁÉǑÄ« $ ls ?? -f I had a similar problem some time ago and have been told that the ls tool is not aware of UTF-8. See here for

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 13:02, frantisek holop wrote: is it true to say then, that ffs is entirely utf8 safe, and/or that ffs is actually an utf-8 encoded filesystem as IIRC Mac OS is? or is it some kind of happy accident that it works? :) FFS stores filenames as bytes.

Re: Error while building current

2014-11-29 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
You were dead right. Dont know why they were different though, but problem solved. Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:04:48 -0500 From: n...@holland-consulting.net To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Error while building current On 11/28/14 20:52, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: Not terribly concerned just

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-11-29, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: is it true to say then, that ffs is entirely utf8 safe, and/or that ffs is actually an utf-8 encoded filesystem as IIRC Mac OS is? The former. Unix filesystems accept all bytes for filenames with the exception of 0x2f, which serves as

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2014-11-29, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: $ touch »´ÁÉǑÄ« $ ls ?? If you need a locale-aware ls(1), use the one from the colorls package. (Don't worry, colored output is entirely optional.) -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Paolo Aglialoro wrote on Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 01:56:23PM +0100: Shouldn't in 2014 the aim having all working in utf-8? Most definitely not, that would directly run contrary to some of OpenBSD's most important project goals: Correctness, simplicity, security. While the article is old, the

display power consumption [Was: Re: X11 screen blanking issue]

2014-11-29 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.10.25 (Sat) 06:08 (CEST): [big snip of the original discussion on screen blanking and it's handling by mplayer] Personally, I'm slowly losing interest in screen blanking. LCD screens draw little power when on, [...] [snipping again] A laptop

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 29 13:02:34, min...@obiit.org wrote: is it true to say then, that ffs is entirely utf8 safe, and/or that ffs is actually an utf-8 encoded filesystem The file names are just strings of bytes. There is nothing UTF8 about them. On Nov 29 14:23:35, czark...@gmail.com wrote: (Interestingly,

Re: Ancient source-changes archive

2014-11-29 Thread Kent R. Spillner
This commit is the only one in the tree attributed to pierre@: http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/daily.diff?r1=1.19r2=1.20 But according to the ChangeLogs that commit was made by deraadt@ (scroll all the way to the bottom, it's the very last entry):

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 02:08:32PM +0200, Ville Valkonen wrote: Hello, On 29 November 2014 at 14:02, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: i have written for myself a small python3 script that removes accented characters and all utf8 symbols from filenames, a kind of utf-8 to ascii

Re: display power consumption [Was: Re: X11 screen blanking issue]

2014-11-29 Thread David Coppa
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Marcus MERIGHI mcmer-open...@tor.at wrote: n...@holland-consulting.net (Nick Holland), 2014.10.25 (Sat) 06:08 (CEST): [big snip of the original discussion on screen blanking and it's handling by mplayer] Personally, I'm slowly losing interest in screen

Re: Malformed request shuts down httpd

2014-11-29 Thread bodie
On 28.11.2014 22:51, Ezequiel Garzon wrote: Thanks for all the replies. Ville, I'm using -release, on the i386 architecture... inside a VPS. I can gather from the replies that indeed httpd is changing quite fast right now, so it doesn't seem very useful to report on -release. (In fact,

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Ingo Schwarze said: While the article is old, the essence of what Schneier said here still stands, and it is not likely to fall in the future: https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0007.html#9 Sorry, but this article is mostly based on lack of understanding of Unicode. that would directly

Re: Patch 009_httpd.patch did not apply cleanly

2014-11-29 Thread Libertas
On 11/27/2014 07:38 AM, Raimo Niskanen wrote: I have also learned to use the -C flag to patch... Have we ever considered changing the suggested shell commands in the patches to ensure that the patch will apply cleanly before trying? We could wrap the actual patch command an if-block with a

Re: CUPS printer problems - #!/bin/bash

2014-11-29 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 00:57:18 +0100 Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: Not that I can find, but what you're saying here is what I'm seeing: bash _was_ on the system for a short time a while back when it was needed to get grolog to run on OBSD64. Afterward it was removed.

Re: Patch 009_httpd.patch did not apply cleanly

2014-11-29 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 16:08, Libertas wrote: On 11/27/2014 07:38 AM, Raimo Niskanen wrote: I have also learned to use the -C flag to patch... Have we ever considered changing the suggested shell commands in the patches to ensure that the patch will apply cleanly before trying? We could

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com wrote: Ingo Schwarze said: While the article is old, the essence of what Schneier said here still stands, and it is not likely to fall in the future: https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0007.html#9 Sorry, but this

OT:Password strength

2014-11-29 Thread Eric Furman
OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD, but a lot of guys here know about this stuff. I've done some reading, but still not sure. OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better; kMH65?3 or mylittlelambjumpedovertenredbarns

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-11-29 Thread Brian Empson
The latter, I would bet. On 11/29/2014 10:07 PM, Eric Furman wrote: OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD, but a lot of guys here know about this stuff. I've done some reading, but still not sure. OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better; kMH65?3 or

Re: ffs and utf8

2014-11-29 Thread Thomas Bohl
Am 29.11.2014 um 13:20 schrieb frantisek holop: i think i should clarify this a bit: they show perfect in midnight commander, not in shell. $ touch »´ÁÉǑÄ« $ ls ?? # ls | cat Will display the characters right. Not entirely sure why though.

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-11-29 Thread bodie
On 30.11.2014 04:07, Eric Furman wrote: OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD, but a lot of guys here know about this stuff. I've done some reading, but still not sure. OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better; kMH65?3 or mylittlelambjumpedovertenredbarns

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-11-29 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/29/14 22:06, Eric Furman wrote: OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD, but a lot of guys here know about this stuff. I've done some reading, but still not sure. OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better; kMH65?3 or mylittlelambjumpedovertenredbarns

Re: OT:Password strength

2014-11-29 Thread bodie
On 30.11.2014 06:48, Nick Holland wrote: On 11/29/14 22:06, Eric Furman wrote: OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with OpenBSD, but a lot of guys here know about this stuff. I've done some reading, but still not sure. OK, at the risk of looking stupid,which of these passwords is better;

Re: rdomain != 0 lo0 in table

2014-11-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 06:34:33PM -0500, Geoff Steckel wrote: When an interface is given an IP6 address in anew rdomain, lo0 is named in various routes when that table is queried via netstat -r -f inet Does the pseudo-interface lo0 actually exist in multiple routing tables simultaneously,