Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
"Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 3/9/06, yary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. > So you think people who are willing to donate to someone would never > go to the recipient's home page to see what they're all about? I

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
yary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. Well said. Thanks yary... I was getting a little riled with those several posters who were so quick to show how sharp they are about finding where donations info is kept.

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
"Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where else would someone look? http://www.microsoft.com? > > You have serious issues with the obvious, huh? You really need to pull you head out of your behind once or twice a day get some fresh air. Jesus you'd think this was a major happening her

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Peter Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Theo de Raadt wrote: >> For instance, I would approximate >> that the sale of every T-shirt we make probably does not pay for the >> electricity used in the machine room. It's about $5000 a year. > > Which works out, quite conveniently, to about $100/week.

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jason Dixon wrote: >> On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>> I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in >>> this thread. >> You're kidding, right?

Re: Why packets are not blocked

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man tcpdump && tcpdump -tttner /var/log/pflog hehe ... well put and thanks... nice.

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: First... back off a bit folks... I was clearly talking about this thread and the URL Theo introduced. Is it a horrible suprise it can be found at www.openbsd.org? >> I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in >> this thread. Did

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have activated the pre-orders for OpenBSD 3.9... > More information can be found at > > http://www.openbsd.org/39.html > > There's a T-shirt and a poster too... > > (The whole subject of the artwork will become more clear in a while, > as we mak

Re: Why packets are not blocked

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
"Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] You are getting good commentary already so I'm asking a lamer noob q about how you got the output below. tcpdump? > Here is the tail of the pflog file while she is on > > Mar 07 20:30:43.516434 rule 14/0(match): pass out on dc0: > 67.174.79.141.60805 > 6

Re: basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's usually better to divide into subnets. /24 is the standard, and > plenty big enough for any home LAN. This makes routing tables less > complicated (for instance, the NetGear would need a /32 route entry for > both 1.1 and 1.2, as would 0.4 and 0.

Re: basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I am not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but getting 1.1 > to talk to 1.2 might be somewhat interesting. Nothing too bad, but not > exactly simple either. I've gone clear around the bend ... over complicating. So backing off to the rec

Re: basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
"Bryan Irvine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > uh, what did you just say? I don't understand. > > What are you trying to do? > > why would you need a second name server on your local LAN? The > netgear can only port forward for one. Are you trying to route > between the 2 nics on the OBSD mac

Re: basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 03 March 2006 16:46, Bryan Irvine wrote: >> Gmail b0rked your ASCII diagram. > > Looks fine here when viewed with a fixed font, at least I think it does, > but I'm not sure what the question is either. I also fail to see the > logic in sending

basic routing in 192.168/16

2006-03-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm not sure which way to jump with this question which is a reflection of unskilled, inexperienced networking background. This may not even be the right way to do it. First: This is all something of a training exercise and not an important production setup. Summary: I'm attempting to

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-03-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Marc Espie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > make search key= > is more or less deprecated... Interesting, So is /usr/ports/INDEX being dumped too at some point. Or will it still have listings showing dependancies and stuff?

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-03-02 Thread Harry Putnam
"Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And something like screen is dependent on the OS. Should it be made > apparent in the ports that the OS needs to be installed before you can > install screen? So to follow this a little further... you're saying X is an OS, not something that runs on an

Re: Nothing in FAQ about X ?

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Jim Razmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man ldconfig > > I suspect your library cache is not up to date. Try using ldconfig -r > and seeing if they are listed. If not, you likely have to get them in > there. Thanks ldconfig -R /usr/X11R6/lib seems to have cleaned that up. Nick Holland <[EMAI

Nothing in FAQ about X ?

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
I haven't seen any section of FAQ devoted to setting up X. Is it supposed to just work after installing the base tgz files? Or maybe I'm just blindly overlooking the section? The part about building X doesn't have anything to say about setting it up. Is it covered somewhere else? I'm guessing

Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is supports the mouse, but unlike most window managers all navigation > can be done with the keyboard. It's a *lot* like screen, but extended > to X. If you like being at console and like screen but want more > control over resolution, fonts, etc., the

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Hannah Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > X isn't in packages, but in simple tarballs. > > cd / ; for i in some/path/x*.tgz; do tar xvvzpf $i; done > > Configure if needed, run X. > Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No. > X is not a "package". It is a file set, not part of the po

Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 03:59:04PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: >> How do I get a dependancy list of ratpoison? > > Just X11, IIRC. See /usr/ports/x11/ratpoison/Makefile. Overhead > compared to a plain text console, but beau

Re: Dependancies with make search key=

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Ray Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I have no part of X installed so should I see some dependancies listed >> here? >># make search key=ratpoison >> Port: ratpoison-1.3.0p1 >> Path: x11/ratpoison >> Info: minimal wm based on GNU screen >> Maint: William Yodlowsky <[EMAIL PROT

Dependancies with make search key=

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Maybe I don't understand what the dependancy lines are supposed to do. I thought they would list any dependancies. I have no part of X installed so should I see some dependancies listed here? # make search key=ratpoison Port: ratpoison-1.3.0p1 Path: x11/ratpoison Info: minimal wm b

Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If it's practical for you, you might try using ratpoison under X. It's > a lightweight window manager inspired by screen, with the added > benefit of doing side-by-side split screen. I've seen several mentions of ratpoison and X. I'm not running X an

Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>So, are there better ways to do this? And can I get 75 lines or some >>other higher number in console mode? >> >> >> > Try installing the package for terminus fonts and use the appropriate > one with wsfontload. Terminus is very crisp and clean and m

80x50 console res but .. clean font

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Using the example from FAQ about how to get 80x50 console resolution I find the font I get is pretty blotchy compared to the default. In default console res, the font is crisp and clear but using the example: wsfontload -h 8 -e ibm /usr/share/misc/pcvtfonts/vt220l.808 It seems blotchy and hard

console mouse hard to control

2006-02-28 Thread Harry Putnam
This must have come up a few times but searching this group at search.gmane.org with strings like `console mouse speed' `wsmoused' `mouse speed' turned up lots of stuff, including one direct hit but it had no reply. There is nothing mentioned in section of faq about keyboard and mouse either. Is

Re: no carrier seems obsd specific

2006-02-27 Thread Harry Putnam
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Just a first thought, but is the cable a crossover one? > I believe dc NICs are not autosensing. I didn't really mean it... it was a joke er I mean I was forced to to write that at gunpoint er I mean I hit my head and got complete

no carrier seems obsd specific

2006-02-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Having a really basic network problem that I've tried 2 hardware solutions to without resolution: Obsd machine has 2 nics and has had right along. I've used the nic that dc0 is attached to many times. I've now installed a second nic on another machine (running gentoo linux) to talk to that second

Re: JPMorgan Chase & Co.- Suspension Notice :159246495

2006-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Notice Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chase staff, Could you please fix the help and support links.

Re: pf.conf to log specific but block all

2006-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There is a facility on the NETGEAR to send all traffic to an inside >> machine for whatever reason. Its called a DMZ Server although I don't >> think that is the normal usage of DMZ, but not experienced enough to >> know for sure. > > That would pro

Re: pf.conf to log specific but block all

2006-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
"Melameth, Daniel D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On a consumer-class Internet connection, I don't expect too much. > However, the following should only log ssh: That is what got me going on this... By negligence I'd left ssh open after coming home from a trip where I had it open for connection

Re: pf.conf to log specific but block all

2006-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
"Melameth, Daniel D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There is a facility on the NETGEAR to send all traffic to an inside >> machine for whatever reason. Its called a DMZ Server although I don't >> think that is the normal usage of DMZ, but not experienced enough to >> know for sure. > > This migh

Re: pf.conf to log specific but block all

2006-02-24 Thread Harry Putnam
"Melameth, Daniel D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thanks for the nifty summary. I want to pester you just a little more then I'll get to work on this and see if I get really stuck somewhere. > # Address translation for machines on your LAN > nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network to any -> ($ext_i

Re: pf.conf to log specific but block all

2006-02-24 Thread Harry Putnam
"Melameth, Daniel D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There is a facility on the NETGEAR to send all traffic to an inside >> machine for whatever reason. Its called a DMZ Server although I don't >> think that is the normal usage of DMZ, but not experienced enough to >> know for sure. > > This migh

pf.conf to log specific but block all

2006-02-24 Thread Harry Putnam
I want to use pf.conf in what may be an unusual place. Not the usual sheild between private net and internet. It would be more as a logging service but will need some config to allow two private net machines to access it. A network picture: INTERNET |

Re: ksh93

2006-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
"Luke Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I've built it before from that site so am guessing it has grown out of >> date or become neglected. > > Do you really need ksh93? pdksh should work just fine in 99.9% of your cases. No, in fact I can't site a single thing it can do that pdkish doesn't.

ksh93

2006-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
I see old messages on various obsd related lists about ksh93 having been at least considered for a package and it not clear if it every was a package, but at any rate does not appear to be now. I wondered if there is development on that or maybe unofficial packages or something. The reason I ask