Re: Need a major favor from Theo!

2008-01-14 Thread Ken Ismert
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Bilano Excerpt: "Last name of "Billy B. Bilano" troll genius. Mr. Bilano posts incredibly plausible-sounding pleas for help on various alpha geek mailing lists..." Is January some kind of official troll month? Why can't it be the shortest month of the yea

Re: Puffy 'Wizard of OS' (Was: Re: Richard Stallman...)

2008-01-06 Thread Ken Ismert
Eric Furman wrote: Yea, it was the artwork that attracted me to OpenBSD, not all the hard work that was put in creating good, clean, secure code. :-) (no offense Ken). Thanks again Theo and all the other devs. None taken. The quality of the OpenBSD effort goes without saying, although than

Puffy 'Wizard of OS' (Was: Re: Richard Stallman...)

2008-01-04 Thread Ken Ismert
chefren wrote (shortened): Don't forget to take a look at the unforgettable "all talk no action" character with GNU horns "behind the curtain" on the paperwork of the OpenBSD 3.7 release CD. http://openbsd.org/lyrics.html#37 OK, I promised myself I wouldn't respond again to this thread or it

Re: rhetorical strategies

2007-12-15 Thread Ken Ismert
As we weather the Category 5 'Flame-icane Strawman', I would like to call attention to Gregg Reynolds' original post on this thread, which I feel offers fresh thinking about how to talk about licensing, and strategies for surviving the buffeting of the next great Rhetorical Depression. Well worth

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Ken Ismert
misc, Richard: As someone from a relatively outside perspective, I find this thread puzzling. My feelings have swung from one side to the other as the thread has surged on. I just don't know the players well enough to draw a firm conclusion. The nub of the perceived slight is this: RMS can't end

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Ken Ismert
Darrin Chandler wrote: > ... BSD/MIT/ISC licenses are more Free than GPL. There's nothing > to debate about that. It's just the way things are ... I don't doubt your claims one iota. But in saying that, don't believe you have convinced me that the other side somehow has less valid claims. And ye

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Ken Ismert
Darrin Chandler wrote: > There seems to be a subtext in your message that one license is more > free than the other, and that the more free license is the GPL. This is > not true. I like both licenses and use software under both licenses. For software I write, I can easily see scenarios where I w

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Ken Ismert
From my perspective as someone outside the BSD and GPL cultures, both camps seem to have many more similarities than differences. I see both Theo and Richard as principled iconoclasts, stubbornly creating and promoting software that meets their individual high standards, meeting and overcoming dif