Lars Hansson wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:37:48 -0500
Steve Shockley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Like HP? Of course, I wouldn't pay for their level of OpenSSH "support".
The level of support, or lack thereof, is not issue. It's not really about
getting any kind of support at all.
It's all
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:37:48 -0500
Steve Shockley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like HP? Of course, I wouldn't pay for their level of OpenSSH "support".
The level of support, or lack thereof, is not issue. It's not really about
getting any kind of support at all.
It's all about (middle) managemen
bofh wrote:
Your piddly little company is not a real company, not like Computer
Associates or McAfee or Nortons or Microsoft. Now, those are _REAL_
companies.
Like HP? Of course, I wouldn't pay for their level of OpenSSH "support".
On 11/30/05, Clint M. Sand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Start one that focuses on it. Hell, www.opensshsupport.com is even
> available.
>
> I bet some of these companies already support this in some capacity
> http://www.openbsd.org/support.html
>
> Less complaining, more doing.
You don't under
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 06:12:29PM -0600, Qv6 wrote:
>
> Has any company ever approached the openssh dev team and offered to buy
> a support contract from them? Did they refuse?
>
> Come to think of it, why doesn't the openssh team sell support contracts
> to companies that want it? Or maybe
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:19:01 -0800
Sean Comeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 06:10:17PM -0800, pete wright wrote:
> > support lisc. for legal issues. If the software goes tit's up and
> > costs the company N dollar's it is easier to get that money from a
> > commercial enti
On 11/28/05, Paul Pruett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> omg what a load of ,
>
> to funny, any coporation stupid enough to fall for that story
> by ssh to buy Tectia ssh and not use openssh deserves to be
> taken for plus the security issues they will get.
That's because there's a huge
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 06:10:17PM -0800, pete wright wrote:
> support lisc. for legal issues. If the software goes tit's up and
> costs the company N dollar's it is easier to get that money from a
> commercial entity whom you have a contract with (or more likely get
> money via a insurance broker
Original message
>Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:56:33 +0100
>From: Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: #define failure opportunity
>To: misc@openbsd.org
>
>The people who they are addressing are bussiness, and they think
>in terms of gaining money
I dont think a separated business growing around that would be a good
ideia? I don't really think so. I am not saying this happened to other
projects like FreeBSD, but i switched from FreeBSD to OpenBSD exactly
because much of what i saw the first time i started with FreeBSD i
could not see since t
On Monday 28 November 2005 08:10 pm, pete wright wrote:
> On 11/28/05, Qv6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 28 November 2005 04:04 pm, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
> > >
> > > Other people do it for us ;)
> > >
> > > http://www.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Spruell, Darren-Perot
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:57 PM
> To: 'misc@openbsd.org'
> Subject: Re: #define failure opportunity
>
> From: pete wright [mailto:[EMA
From: pete wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Not that I don't think openssh is superior for the fact that it *is*
> open software, I bet that the company in question needs software
> support lisc. for legal issues. If the software goes tit's up and
> costs the company N dollar's it is easier to g
On 11/28/05, Qv6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 28 November 2005 04:04 pm, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
> >
> > Other people do it for us ;)
> >
> > http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
> >
> > And... thanks to those o
> It is very important that we educate people about what the choice
> of open source software means.
>
>From a business perspective I don't see this being very important =)
If the competition is willing to give me an edge on them, be my guests.
/Tony
From: Han Boetes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The people who they are addressing are bussiness, and they think
> in terms of gaining money and loosing money.
>
> Open Source Software is a concept they will not understand easily
> since they don't have a concept of interacting with people without
>
The people who they are addressing are bussiness, and they think
in terms of gaining money and loosing money.
Open Source Software is a concept they will not understand easily
since they don't have a concept of interacting with people without
a gain or loss perspective.
It is very important that
* Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-28 15:38]:
> This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
>
> Other people do it for us ;)
>
> http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
Heck, I wanna meet the person who wrote that. It's brilliant spin.
It's just delici
>From: Qv6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: #define failure opportunity
>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:35:24 -0600
...
>Intersting news.
>
>I once worked for a major Telecom firm that used a commercial
>implementation of ssh. I was curiou
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:43:34 -0600
Matthew Weigel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>
> > That caused me to raise an eyebrow as well, but I think they refer
> > to the protocol of scp(1) itself, not the SSH1/2 protocol of the
> > underlying SSH session. The phrasing certai
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
That caused me to raise an eyebrow as well, but I think they refer
to the protocol of scp(1) itself, not the SSH1/2 protocol of the
underlying SSH session. The phrasing certainly is confusing.
I think you mean "misleading." :-)
--
Matthew Weigel
On Monday 28 November 2005 04:04 pm, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
>
> Other people do it for us ;)
>
> http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
>
> And... thanks to those of you who supported us when they were
> threatening to sue u
Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"...However, OpenSSH deviates from the standards in its SCP (Secure
> Copy Protocol) implementation.
> >SSH Tectia Client and Server now incorporate a compatibility mode
> for OpenSSH SCP, which still uses
> >the old Secure Shell version 1 (SS
On 28/11/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
>
> Other people do it for us ;)
>
> http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
>
---
The improved compatibility features will be beneficial for enterprises
that are in th
On 28/11/05, Josh Grosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:04:45PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
> >
> > Other people do it for us ;)
> >
> > http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
> >
> > And... than
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:04:45PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
>
> Other people do it for us ;)
>
> http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
>
> And... thanks to those of you who supported us when they were
> threatening
omg what a load of ,
to funny, any coporation stupid enough to fall for that story
by ssh to buy Tectia ssh and not use openssh deserves to be
taken for plus the security issues they will get.
- article referenced-
http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
smarter companies w
This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor.
Other people do it for us ;)
http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/
And... thanks to those of you who supported us when they were
threatening to sue us years ago..
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