Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Rudolf Leitgeb
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2011, 21:49:18 schrieb Henning Brauer: in these cases - where runs is the top priority and manual intervention is hard - you most probably want to run with ro / and an mfs or three. This is one nice approach but doesn't cover features like user changeable settings and

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Henning Brauer
* Rudolf Leitgeb rudolf.leit...@gmx.at [2011-12-19 10:17]: Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2011, 21:49:18 schrieb Henning Brauer: in these cases - where runs is the top priority and manual intervention is hard - you most probably want to run with ro / and an mfs or three. This is one nice

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:52:40 +0100 Henning Brauer wrote: while we're really good in that and fsck almost always succeeds and fixes things up i have seen different. Same here, though I have to admit when there are lots to go through, I can't rememeber not doing an fsck -y. Usually the datas not

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:39:42 +0100 Rudolf Leitgeb wrote: Guess what your home router does, and what (if you have one) your cell phone does? It loses unimportant data. Hennings points stand. One of the beauties of OpenBSD is it's init which is easy to follow and edit. To give such a feature

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Henning Brauer
* Rudolf Leitgeb rudolf.leit...@gmx.at [2011-12-19 14:40]: Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2011, 13:52:40 schrieb Henning Brauer: gotta compromise for crippled systems. solvable with a little shell script run from cron and rc.shutdown. Wait: your solution would be to periodically remount some volume

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 19 December 2011 11:39, Rudolf Leitgeb rudolf.leit...@gmx.at wrote: Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2011, 13:52:40 schrieb Henning Brauer: gotta compromise for crippled systems. solvable with a little shell script run from cron and rc.shutdown. Wait: your solution would be to periodically remount

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-19 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-12-19, Rudolf Leitgeb rudolf.leit...@gmx.at wrote: Am Montag, 19. Dezember 2011, 13:52:40 schrieb Henning Brauer: gotta compromise for crippled systems. solvable with a little shell script run from cron and rc.shutdown. Wait: your solution would be to periodically remount some volume

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-18 Thread Илья Шипицин
an automatic fsck -y at boot time when the system hangs and need user intervention? In FreeBSD we have the possibility to edit the rc.conf and adding just these lines: ... background_fsck=NO fsck_y_enable=YES fsck_y_flags= ... Is there in OpenBSD such a similar thing? Thank you in advance SC

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Stefan Beke
I guess I understand what Sebastien is talking about. I used to make trips to my cheap serverhosting after power failure too :).Just to type Y, yes repair those blocks, while system was hanging at boot. Not very pleasant experience... On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:00, Kenneth R Westerback

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread David Coppa
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Stefan Beke i...@bekeovci.net wrote: I guess I understand what Sebastien is talking about. I used to make trips to my cheap serverhosting after power failure too :).Just to type Y, yes repair those blocks, while system was hanging at boot. Not very pleasant

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Henning Brauer
there is no solution but a proper remote console access, i. e. cereal. it is completely beyond me why some people accept anything else. yes yes, some/many providers don't offer any. so pick one that does. you don't buy condoms with holes either, no matter how cheap. * Stefan Beke

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Rudolf Leitgeb
Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2011, 10:26:27 schrieb Henning Brauer: there is no solution but a proper remote console access, i. e. cereal. it is completely beyond me why some people accept anything else. yes yes, some/many providers don't offer any. so pick one that does. you don't buy condoms

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Stefan Beke
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:26, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: it is completely beyond me why some people accept anything else. Because it fits their needs. Even if there was remote access, it would hang till someone would notice and use it. Sometimes would be preferable just to

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:49:22 +0100 Rudolf Leitgeb rudolf.leit...@gmx.at wrote: There are setups where the stored data is the most important thing and there are setups where the task is the most important thing, and for the latter ones an automatic fsck -y is the way to go. Or take advantage

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Stefan Beke i...@bekeovci.net [2011-12-16 10:57]: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:26, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: it is completely beyond me why some people accept anything else. Because it fits their needs. util something breaks and trey notice that they're doomed and whine,

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Rudolf Leitgeb rudolf.leit...@gmx.at [2011-12-16 10:50]: Am Freitag, 16. Dezember 2011, 10:26:27 schrieb Henning Brauer: there is no solution but a proper remote console access, i. e. cereal. it is completely beyond me why some people accept anything else. yes yes, some/many providers

Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-15 Thread Sebastien Maerker, Continum
Hello, it is possible, like in FreeBSD, to do an automatic fsck -y at boot time when the system hangs and need user intervention? In FreeBSD we have the possibility to edit the rc.conf and adding just these lines: ... background_fsck=NO fsck_y_enable=YES fsck_y_flags= ... Is there in OpenBSD

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-15 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 09:55:47AM +0100, Sebastien Maerker, Continum wrote: Hello, it is possible, like in FreeBSD, to do an automatic fsck -y at boot time when the system hangs and need user intervention? In FreeBSD we have the possibility to edit the rc.conf and adding just

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-15 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:29:40 -0500 Kenneth R Westerback wrote: You can change the 'fsck -p' in /etc/rc to whatever varient you wish. There is, to my knowledge, no knob. You probably realise but be aware you can lose data with fsck -y but only on writable filesystems?

Re: Automatic fsck -y at Boot

2011-12-15 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 03:42:19PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:29:40 -0500 Kenneth R Westerback wrote: You can change the 'fsck -p' in /etc/rc to whatever varient you wish. There is, to my knowledge, no knob. You probably realise but be aware you can lose