Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-27 Thread chefren
On 03/26/06 07:45, Travers Buda wrote: They have no time for anything but excelence. Clueless, money is needed because it =isn't= excellent at all. Lots of people are too religious here, OpenBSD is neither a religion nor even a cult and shouldn't be one too. The truth is just that OpenBSD

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-27 Thread chefren
On 03/26/06 17:35, frantisek holop wrote: Talking about arrogance: everybody seems to be happy about Theo's style .. the problem mr de Raadt fails to see is, What's his name, Theo or mr de Raadt? +++chefren

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-27 Thread David Terrell
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:13:58PM +0200, chefren wrote: On 03/26/06 17:35, frantisek holop wrote: Talking about arrogance: everybody seems to be happy about Theo's style .. the problem mr de Raadt fails to see is, What's his name, Theo or mr de Raadt? Mr. de Raadt if you're

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-26 Thread steve szmidt
No Theo, I've never asked anyone here to write something for me. I tend to do my own coding. When I saw you were in trouble back then I simply offered to see if I could help because I like your product. I know, it was ignorant of me. I should have known better. And you're quite right these

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-26 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 02:33:46PM -0800, Aaron Glenn said that Have you ever read [EMAIL PROTECTED] I mean actually read it? The only people that get slammed are those that deserve it. You're supposed to do your so who decides who deserves it and who doesn't? everybody seems to be happy

It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread Jim Snyder
Hello All, I've been passively following the money threads from the very first post. Considering that this topic has generated over 100 replies, perhaps this should serve as a clue to its importance. Background: I'm a second-generation airline pilot, therefor I've been many places and worked

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 3/25/06, Jim Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I've been passively following the money threads from the very first post. Considering that this topic has generated over 100 replies, perhaps this should serve as a clue to its importance. Background: I'm a second-generation

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread steve szmidt
On Saturday 25 March 2006 17:33, you wrote: Have you ever read [EMAIL PROTECTED] I mean actually read it? The only people that get slammed are those that deserve it. You're supposed to do your own homework - there is no hand holding because hand holding takes away time from more productive

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
Hmm. The last time money was short I unselfishly offered my time to help raise money, because I wanted to help. I have been the recipient of hundreds of these I want to help letters. In this last donation drive I have received over 200 letters, and then had to spend a lot of hours going

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 09:14:17PM -0500, steve szmidt wrote: On Saturday 25 March 2006 17:33, you wrote: Have you ever read [EMAIL PROTECTED] I mean actually read it? The only people that get slammed are those that deserve it. You're supposed to do your own homework - there is no hand

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread dick
The 10 people who are helping get it. They know that help is about action, and that if you stops at just words, it just plain isn't help. the extent to which this thread has wasted time and not helped to draw any new conclusions is astonishing. theo makes a good point when he accounts for the

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread Tony
to make them do either your thing or my thing. I do not blame them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of steve szmidt Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:14 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: It's not about the money On Saturday 25 March 2006 17

Re: It's not about the money

2006-03-25 Thread Travers Buda
On Saturday 25 March 2006 20:14, steve szmidt wrote: Hmm. The last time money was short I unselfishly offered my time to help raise money, because I wanted to help. Help those who had helped me. I figured it would be a nice thing for me to do. Altruism is a sham. Selflessness does not exist.