Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
Normally these devices come up in the same order each time. It is not gauranteed, unfortunately, because device bring up can race against other devices. I've seen it be non-deterministic. me, too. especially, if you plug in another nic on pci between 2 other nics. this is really confusing

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: me, too. especially, if you plug in another nic on pci between 2 other nics. this is really confusing the box. also take care for your bios interrupt settings - if you have a lot of traffic, it sometimes can be smart to put all the nics on the same interrupt.

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-11 Thread Nick Holland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: [you edited out discussion of *USB* devices] Normally these devices come up in the same order each time. It is not gauranteed, unfortunately, because device bring up can race against other devices. I've seen it be non-deterministic. me, too. especially,

Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Crawford
Greetings, I've been running a Debian based firewall for a number of years and have a need to update the hardware, so have decided to change the OS over to OpenBSD at the same time. The box has 4 NICs(identical make/model) and by using 'ifrename' I'm able to specify which NICs are assigned

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Adam
On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:52:10 -0400 Dave Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or another viable solution. There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly reorder interfaces for no reason. Adam

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:14:06PM -0400, Adam wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:52:10 -0400 Dave Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or another viable solution. There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly reorder interfaces for no reason. So the order in which

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
I've been running a Debian based firewall for a number of years and have a need to update the hardware, so have decided to change the OS over to OpenBSD at the same time. The box has 4 NICs(identical make/model) and by using 'ifrename' I'm able to specify which NICs are assigned each

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly reorder interfaces for no reason. So the order in which the cards are detected is deterministic and never changes? I'm not being a smartass, I really want to know. We have worked very hard at this. On a particular

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Tony Abernethy
Darrin Chandler wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:14:06PM -0400, Adam wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 19:52:10 -0400 Dave Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or another viable solution. There's no solution because there's no problem. OpenBSD doesn't randomly reorder interfaces for

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 08:03:41PM -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: So the order in which the cards are detected is deterministic and never changes? I'm not being a smartass, I really want to know. Me, I just lurk here, but the impression I get is that 1) anywhere else

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 06:46:54PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: So the order in which the cards are detected is deterministic and never changes? I'm not being a smartass, I really want to know. We have worked very hard at this. On a particular machine, yes, it should be deterministic. On

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
There may be a race in usb for how devices respond, but I bet it is small and not really that worrying. One day maybe someone can look at it. Is there something to look for there? My limited experience with usb on OpenBSD leads me to think every thing comes in with the same order by

Re: Manually naming Multiple NICs

2006-05-09 Thread Bryan Irvine
On 5/9/06, Dave Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I've been running a Debian based firewall for a number of years and have a need to update the hardware, so have decided to change the OS over to OpenBSD at the same time. The box has 4 NICs(identical make/model) and by using