On Monday, 8 August 2005 at 18:03:25 +0100, Edd Barrett wrote:
Suns newest ultra 20 x64 workstation retails at under #1000.
Not as expensive as they once were.
I never think Sun stuff expensive compared to other big vendors.
In fact, Sun charge the least but we hardly buy them b/c of their
On 8/8/05, Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suns newest ultra 20 x64 workstation retails at under #1000.
Not as expensive as they once were.
that is out of desperation; not because that's what they are worth.
aaron.glenn
Anon Y. Mous [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi:
Has anyone involved with OpenBSD development
attempted to negotiate a license with Sun for a Java
binaries usage agreement, (e.g., FreeBSD/Sun
agreement)?
URL: http://www.freebsd.org/java/
The FreeBSD Foundation has negotiated a license
On 08 Aug 2005 10:51:14 +0200, Artur Grabowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anon Y. Mous [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi:
Has anyone involved with OpenBSD development
attempted to negotiate a license with Sun for a Java
binaries usage agreement, (e.g., FreeBSD/Sun
agreement)?
URL:
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:12:24PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
The FreeBSD guys sold their soul to Sun in a license agreement of
some sort in order to use Sun's code as a base for their native
implementation.
Sorry, not quite.
The FreeBSD-native Java implementation did not require changing
That is what you do for /ports/devel/jdk/ . So what is your problem? ;-)
2005/8/8, Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think it would be a good idea. Even if you had to download an
openbsd package from sun's site.
Let's read what I wrote and your response, shall we?
Edd Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Encourage and
promote closed 'standards', insecure, crappy binaries and software
monopolies.?
I think it would be a good idea.
Maybe you do. Fortunately most of us don't.
//art
From: Michael W. Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:12:24PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
The FreeBSD guys sold their soul to Sun in a license agreement of
some sort in order to use Sun's code as a base for their native
implementation.
Sorry, not quite.
The FreeBSD-native Java
From: Anon Y. Mous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi:
Has anyone involved with OpenBSD development
attempted to negotiate a license with Sun for a Java
binaries usage agreement, (e.g., FreeBSD/Sun
agreement)?
As stated several times in this thread, the type of license
that FreeBSD has with Sun goes
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:05:38AM -0400, Kurt Miller wrote:
From: Michael W. Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:12:24PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
The FreeBSD guys sold their soul to Sun in a license agreement of
some sort in order to use Sun's code as a base for their native
From: Michael W. Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 10:05:38AM -0400, Kurt Miller wrote:
From: Michael W. Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:12:24PM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote:
The FreeBSD guys sold their soul to Sun in a license agreement of
some sort in order to
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:23 -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote:
I can't see spending my time working on Sun's code, but that's your
choice, and if it works for you more power to you.
You know, for every Kurt, there have to be several hundred people
(OpenBSD users or otherwise) who say if I wanted to
Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:23 -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote:
I can't see spending my time working on Sun's code, but that's your
choice, and if it works for you more power to you.
You know, for every Kurt, there have to be several hundred people
(OpenBSD users or
* Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-08 17:18]:
You know, for every Kurt, there have to be several hundred people
(OpenBSD users or otherwise) who say if I wanted to deal with Sun every
day, I'd run Solaris instead and frankly, I don't blame them. Every
attempt to use Java here has
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:02:47 -0400, Kurt Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kurt,
Really, no disparagement was meant of your efforts. My apologies for
any offense.
I can't see spending my time working on Sun's code, but that's your
choice, and if it works for you more power to you.
Thanks
You know, for every Kurt, there have to be several hundred people
(OpenBSD users or otherwise) who say if I wanted to deal with Sun every
day, I'd run Solaris instead and frankly, I don't blame them. Every
attempt to use Java here has caused more problems than it has solved;
it's simply a
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:38:30 -0400, Jan Izary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Please release the source code of your software under a BSD license so
it is compatible with the goals of our project:
J. C., you know full well that's not really needed for OpenBSD to have their
own copy of Java in ports.
Hi:
Has anyone involved with OpenBSD development
attempted to negotiate a license with Sun for a Java
binaries usage agreement, (e.g., FreeBSD/Sun
agreement)?
URL: http://www.freebsd.org/java/
The FreeBSD Foundation has negotiated a license with
Sun Microsystems to distribute FreeBSD
On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:04:51 -0700 (PDT), Anon Y. Mous
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone involved with OpenBSD development
attempted to negotiate a license with Sun for a Java
binaries usage agreement
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Dear Bill, Larry and Scott,
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