OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-25 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter wrote: > Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In particular, the popular ES and ES.2 "server grade" disks are also affected, to the best of my knowledge. Seagate only a

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-25 Thread Dieter
> > Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. > > > first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In > particular, the popular ES and ES.2 "server grade" disks are also > affected, to the best of my knowledge. Seagate only admits to problems > with ES.2 drives, not ES dr

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 25.01.2009 at 16:27:14 +, Dieter wrote: > I wrote: > > You wrote: > > > Is Maxtorman correct about the 320 log entries? > > My dealer told me a similar story, but I don't know where he had it > > from. > > I guess the next step is to find out if Maxtorman is correct about this

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Sun, January 25, 2009 16:01, Toni Mueller wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter > wrote: >> Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. > > > first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In > particular, the popular ES and ES.2 "server grade" dis

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-01-26, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > On Sun, January 25, 2009 16:01, Toni Mueller wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter >> wrote: >>> Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. >> >> >> first off, several other product lines are affected, too. In >> partic

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Mon, January 26, 2009 18:48, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2009-01-26, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: >> On Sun, January 25, 2009 16:01, Toni Mueller wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Fri, 23.01.2009 at 21:28:34 +, Dieter >>> wrote: Recovering from Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware. >>> >>> >>> fir

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Dieter
Disk families affected: Barracuda 7200.11, Barracuda ES.2 (SATA), DiamondMax 22, FreeAgent Desk, Maxtor OneTouch 4, Pipeline HD, Pipeline HD Pro, SV35.3, SV35.4 Barracuda ES.2 SAS drive is not affected All drives with a date of manufacture January 12, 2009 and later are not affected by this issu

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-26 Thread Dieter
Toni writes: > > > > Is Maxtorman correct about the 320 log entries? > > > My dealer told me a similar story, but I don't know where he had it > > > from. > > > > I guess the next step is to find out if Maxtorman is correct about this > > 320 log entries stuff, and if the SMART log entrie

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 26.01.2009 at 17:08:51 +, Dieter wrote: > It is easy to set up a slashdot account. Or you can post as "anonymous > coward". yes, but I don't want to set up a /. account right now, and posting as AC wouldn't likely solve the problem. > that he has another slashdot account that

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 26.01.2009 at 17:08:51 +, Dieter wrote: > Your suggestion of smartmontools is helpful, thank you. thanks - I have just sent an email to them, esp. after seeing that there are people from big name companies involved, who could procure at least some of the required documentation i

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Sieve-X
Nenhum_de_Nos eternamente.info> writes: > >> where you read that from ? > >> > >> I have a couple of 750GB ES.2 and now I'm worried ! > > > > http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207931&NewLang=en > > thanks, yet OT, but I also heard of new firmwares being worse tha

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-27 Thread Dieter
Toni writes: > > If we can find out what area > > this is (I assume it isn't in the normal space used for user storage) > > and how to zero it (if not already zero) there is no need to update > > the firmware. > > I'd rather say that the (ring) buffer has some external counter, also > stored some

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 27.01.2009 at 21:37:28 +, Dieter wrote: > Toni writes: > > positives and false negatives. After deciding that the results were > > far too unreliable, the page was pulled. > > That too. For one thing people were entering the serial numbers > using lower case letters and getting

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-28 Thread Dieter
> > > positives and false negatives. After deciding that the results were > > > far too unreliable, the page was pulled. > > > > That too. For one thing people were entering the serial numbers > > using lower case letters and getting false negatives. > > this is a joke, right? As far as I can t

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-30 Thread Sieve-X
Dieter sopwith.solgatos.com> writes: > > Sigh. I could easily go on a major rant here, but it wouldn't do us > any good. Anyone have information or ideas that could get us closer > to a solution? > Event log counter can be written every once in a while for example if S.M.A.R.T automatic off-

Re: OT: Hard Disk Problems (was: Re: Dealing with Seagate's problematic 7200.11 firmware.)

2009-01-30 Thread Stuart Henderson
please, this is way off topic. could you try and find a better list to chat about this on...