Re: OpenBSD sound system

2014-12-19 Thread Alfonso Sabato Siciliano
I have update the graph about the sound system On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:38:49 +0100 Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > Yes this is right. Note that pograms can bypass sndiod seamlessly > and use sio_xxx and mio_xxx functions to connect directly to the > audio(4) and midi(4) layers. This is determined at

Re: OpenBSD sound system

2014-12-19 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 04:28:38AM +0100, Alfonso Sabato Siciliano wrote: > hello, I am willing to know the sound system of OpenBSD, > so I started to read the manpages. > I summarized with a graph below, it is right? > Yes this is right. Note that pograms can bypass sndiod seamlessly and use s

Re: OpenBSD sound system

2014-12-19 Thread Remco
Alfonso Sabato Siciliano wrote: > hello, I am willing to know the sound system of OpenBSD, > so I started to read the manpages. > I summarized with a graph below, it is right? > > I'm not the expert but it seems about right to me. I think you could draw two additional connections for raw devic

Re: OpenBSD sound system

2014-12-18 Thread bodie
On 19.12.2014 04:28, Alfonso Sabato Siciliano wrote: hello, I am willing to know the sound system of OpenBSD, so I started to read the manpages. I summarized with a graph below, it is right? You may want to read these two as well http://www.openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon2010_sndio_slides.pdf ht

OpenBSD sound system

2014-12-18 Thread Alfonso Sabato Siciliano
hello, I am willing to know the sound system of OpenBSD, so I started to read the manpages. I summarized with a graph below, it is right? sndio(7): The sndio audio and MIDI system provides access to audio and MIDI hardware and to services provided by sndiod, summarized below. |--|

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-04 Thread Steve Shockley
Theo de Raadt wrote: gonna setup a web page first, for your non-project? a wiki? and a mailing list? Not until they pick a catchy name and a mascot.

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Dorian Büttner
Jacob Meuser schrieb: resending, sorry if this is a dup. On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 02:59:13PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: No kde doesn't play anything at all, kmixer doesn't have any available device. ah, you have kdemultimedia installed. there were a couple issues with that port tha

False OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread chefren
On 11/3/07 5:23 PM, Karel Kulhavy wrote: CL< Sigh, I hoped he had grown up somewhat or learned something. Still the wrong edge! ---chefren

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:09:48PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > The proper natural solution is to implement this in the kernel where it > belongs > to according to what they told us on the lectures - I have done a master > degree > in operating systems, networks and compilers. They said that th

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:40:37PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:23:31AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > > > On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Some *BSD syst

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:40:31PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > What do you mean with the term "suck"? No matter how good app you write it > always breaks the basic principle - that hw virtualization should be done by > the kernel and not some kind of userland app. > So, you want to integrate pr

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 02:21:27PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/11/03 13:40, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > > > no; character devices (such as /dev/audio) keep per-unit state > > > (encoding, rate, ...). To mix multiple audi

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. > > > > Mplayer is GPL, so be careful about lifting code. > > Then one can use the code at least as an algorithm reference. "one", as in "someone who doesn't just talk talk talk talk".

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/03 13:40, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > > no; character devices (such as /dev/audio) keep per-unit state > > (encoding, rate, ...). To mix multiple audio streams per-stream > > state must be kept. That's why arts/esd/jack/...

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:44:02PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > Hello, > > This thread has been really interesting. > > On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. > > Mplayer is GPL, so be careful about lifting code. Then one can use t

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Edd Barrett
Hello, This thread has been really interesting. On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. Mplayer is GPL, so be careful about lifting code. -- Best Regards Edd --- http://students.dec.

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:23:31AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > > On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple > > > process to o

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:47:20AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > On 10/31/07, Samuel Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a > > question about the sound system , is there a way to play > > two sounds at the sam

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:17:05AM -0400, Samuel Proulx wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a > question about the sound system , is there a way to play two sounds at the > same time ? Example watching youtube videos with opera and playing so

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
resending, sorry if this is a dup. On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 02:59:13PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: > No kde doesn't play anything at all, kmixer doesn't have any available device. ah, you have kdemultimedia installed. there were a couple issues with that port that mostly broke arts, but have be

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Dorian Büttner
No, it didn't. Actually tryin' a fresh install - slightly remember that it did work on the fresh install. I'll let you know. On Friday 02 November 2007 15:45:49 Stijn wrote: > Dorian, > > One wild guess: does it change when you start KDE as root? > > HTH, > Stijn > > Dorian B|ttner wrote: > > On

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Dorian Büttner
On Friday 02 November 2007 14:41:18 Daniel wrote: [...] > > ok I removed the auto-suspend checkbox in the control center audio > > settings. After restarting the system I now have better values: > > $ audioctl play.rate > > play.rate=48000 > > $ audioctl play.open > > play.open=1 > > $ artscat test

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Daniel
On 2007. November 2. 14:23.27 Dorian B|ttner wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2007 13:42:33 Dorian B|ttner wrote: > > On Friday 02 November 2007 13:07:54 Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 12:42:29PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 22:22:15 Jacob Meuse

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Dorian Büttner
On Friday 02 November 2007 13:42:33 Dorian B|ttner wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2007 13:07:54 Jacob Meuser wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 12:42:29PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: > > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 22:22:15 Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > [...] > > > > > > > probably not; at least no

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Dorian Büttner
On Friday 02 November 2007 13:07:54 Jacob Meuser wrote: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 12:42:29PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 22:22:15 Jacob Meuser wrote: > > [...] > > > > > probably not; at least not anytime soon. > > > > > > something for "newbie hackers" to work on:

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 12:42:29PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 22:22:15 Jacob Meuser wrote: > [...] > > probably not; at least not anytime soon. > > > > something for "newbie hackers" to work on: an ISC licensed audio daemon. > > Sorry for hijacking this thread, pro

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Dorian B|ttner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However this doesn't seem to be a driver problem since autest passed with > success. It's just that kde doesn't detect the device, where can I look at to > nail down the problem? pkg_info contains either esound and arts. Several Thinkpad users includ

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-02 Thread Dorian Büttner
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 22:22:15 Jacob Meuser wrote: [...] > probably not; at least not anytime soon. > > something for "newbie hackers" to work on: an ISC licensed audio daemon. Sorry for hijacking this thread, propably anyone has a quick hint to make my audio work in kde. Built /usr/src/r

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:49:01AM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: > This is an interesting topic, I also noticed that multiple applications > couldn't open /dev/audio at the same time... > > Doesn't this make it impossible to record and listen to audio from ones > microphone at the same time? quite... a

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:06:15AM -0400, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 14:51 +, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > > And still one thing > > > > When I was try OpenBSD (I think that was 3.8),I use WindowMaker,Xmms and > > lots > > Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver sup

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:06:24PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You'll probably want http://ports.openbsd.nu/audio/esound. > > Yup. > > > There's something called Pulse which is intended as a drop in > > (but superior) replacement for esound

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Samuel Proulx
thank for the information . I just tried esound , it worked nice with mpd.. but it seem that there is no way to make it work with opera ? I have looked on google and from what i have read im supposed to use the esddsp program but it didnt come with the esound package ; ( is it because it in

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:23:31AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: > On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple > > process to open /dev/dsp / /dev/audio multiple times in-exclusively, > > mitigating the n

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You'll probably want http://ports.openbsd.nu/audio/esound. Yup. > There's something called Pulse which is intended as a drop in > (but superior) replacement for esound, and someone () ported it to > OpenBSD, but it's not in the tree yet. Benoit Chesnea

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/31/07, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple > > process to open /dev/dsp / /dev/audio multiple times in-exclusively, > > mitigating the needs for

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:49:01AM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: > This is an interesting topic, I also noticed that multiple > applications couldn't open /dev/audio at the same time... > > Doesn't this make it impossible to record and listen to audio > from ones microphone at the same time? quite... arc

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Unix Fan
This is an interesting topic, I also noticed that multiple applications couldn't open /dev/audio at the same time... Doesn't this make it impossible to record and listen to audio from ones microphone at the same time? quite... archaic don't you all agree?

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple > process to open /dev/dsp / /dev/audio multiple times in-exclusively, > mitigating the needs for piss-poor software API multiplex'ing solutions > a-la ARTS/ESD.

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Brian A Seklecki (Mobile)
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 14:51 +, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > And still one thing > > When I was try OpenBSD (I think that was 3.8),I use WindowMaker,Xmms and lots Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple process to open /dev/dsp / /dev/audio multiple times in-exclusively,

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/31/07, Samuel Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a > question about the sound system , is there a way to play > two sounds at the same time ? Example watching youtube videos with opera and > playing some mus

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Tomas Bodzar
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Proulx Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:17 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD Sound Hello, I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a question about the sound system , is there a way to play two sounds at the

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Benjamin M. A'Lee
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:17:05AM -0400, Samuel Proulx wrote: > I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a > question about the sound system , is there a way to play > two sounds at the same time ? Example watching youtube videos with opera and > playing some music

OpenBSD Sound

2007-10-31 Thread Samuel Proulx
Hello, I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a question about the sound system , is there a way to play two sounds at the same time ? Example watching youtube videos with opera and playing some music in the background with mpd or xmms . thank you for your time