Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-24 Thread Mihai Popescu
Mihai, I find your name quite offensive. Can you please change it in future mailings to this list. Perhaps Mihai Humpingforjesus ? That would make me feel much better. Maybe I can do that, but doing so many things will have to change then. For example, open from OpenBSD is quite offensive

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-24 Thread Reyk Floeter
On 24.11.2013, at 15:40, Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com wrote: ... As for the original poster, the author tried to find out a repulsive ... We all got it and there's is no need to continue with this annoying thread. OK? Thanks. Reyk

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-23 Thread Kim Lidström
On 23/11/13 04:20, Jason Barbier wrote: On 11/22/2013 10:50 AM, Rick Pettit wrote: Lewis, If censorship is your thing, why don’t you start by censoring yourself. What you are asking for here is offensive. -Rick +1 +1 On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-23 Thread Mihai Popescu
Is it over? So soon?

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-23 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Mihai Popescu [mih...@gmail.com] wrote: Is it over? So soon? Mihai, I find your name quite offensive. Can you please change it in future mailings to this list. Perhaps Mihai Humpingforjesus ? That would make me feel much better.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 21-11-2013 18:44, J. Lewis Muir escreveu: Hi, Shawn. I understand that, and I'm not trying to tell people how they should talk on a mailing list. But to me documentation for a project like OpenBSD is different. It's not individual people talking however they like to talk. It's well-written

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st of May, and 1st of November, every year. Hi, Giancarlo.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Il 22/nov/2013 19:07 J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org ha scritto: On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life happy. Remember to always take this pill

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Marti Martinez
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM, J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org wrote: Well, no one wants to maintain a patch forever. You lead a charmed life, my friend. Be well.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Rick Pettit
Lewis, If censorship is your thing, why don’t you start by censoring yourself. What you are asking for here is offensive. -Rick On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote: Il 22/nov/2013 19:07 J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org ha scritto: On 11/22/13 11:17 AM,

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM, J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org wrote: On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life happy. Remember to always take this pill

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/22/13 12:34 PM, System Administrator wrote: Hi J. Lewis, I am not a developer, but I've been lurking on this list for a very long time and on that basis can tell you that you've committed two cardinal sins as far as this mailing list is concerned: 1) you failed to do your homework --

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread System Administrator
Hi J. Lewis, I am not a developer, but I've been lurking on this list for a very long time and on that basis can tell you that you've committed two cardinal sins as far as this mailing list is concerned: 1) you failed to do your homework -- had you done some research, in particular about the

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 01:09:36PM -0600, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I don't see it that way. Huckleberry Finn is a book, and I don't need to read it unless I want to. The spamd(8) man page is a man page I need to read in order to understand how to use spamd. Let me fix that for you: The

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
2) OpenBSD is the ultimate volunteer effort -- the developers do it in their free time FOR PERSONAL FUN. Many of them have made it very clear that they would cease development if it stops being fun. Your original message (title and intro) goes to the heart of this issue. Its tone and

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
I don't see it that way. Huckleberry Finn is a book, and I don't need to read it unless I want to. The spamd(8) man page is a man page I need to read in order to understand how to use spamd. Let me fix that for you: The spamd(8) man page is a man page I don't need to read it unless I

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 21 20:04:32, gil...@poolp.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason You emails are controversial,

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen
J. Lewis Muir wrote: If it's somehow offensive to them and can be changed in a small way not to be, then I would accept the patch to change it. Everybody wins--no big deal. If everybody adapts what they say, to what they think others want to hear, then we no longer have freedom of speach.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Alexander Hall
On 11/22/13 20:09, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 11/22/13 12:34 PM, System Administrator wrote: Hi J. Lewis, I am not a developer, but I've been lurking on this list for a very long time and on that basis can tell you that you've committed two cardinal sins as far as this mailing list is concerned:

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 09:48:02PM +0100, Alexander Hall wrote: I'm pretty sure Bob has noticed (and likely quite some time ago ignored) this conversation. You made your point and argumented for it. It does not apply here though, so stop. Now. Please. Actually, the longer it runs, the

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 22 November 2013 10:06, J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org wrote: On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life happy. Remember to always take this pill again

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Eric Johnson
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st of May, and 1st

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Michael Motyka
On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:06 AM, J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org wrote: On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life happy. Remember to always take this pill

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
It looks like a pretty one-sided deal you're proposing: passive-aggressive moves to control the speech of those who have respected your freedom to express your opinion and be heard. Pretty damned selfish behavior on your part as far as I can tell. Michael -- well said.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Jason Barbier
On 11/22/2013 10:50 AM, Rick Pettit wrote: Lewis, If censorship is your thing, why don’t you start by censoring yourself. What you are asking for here is offensive. -Rick +1 On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote: Il 22/nov/2013 19:07 J. Lewis Muir

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/21/2013 12:33 PM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat adult in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch against -current that replaces the adult

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2013-11-21 Thread Chris Cappuccio
- Forwarded message from J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org - Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:33:41 -0600 From: J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page I found some of the example email addresses and domains

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread zalit
On 2013-11-21 20:04, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was nothing wrong with it. The people who write code get to decide how they document it. If someone

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat adult in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch against -current that

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Alexander Hall
On 11/21/13 21:44, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 11/21/13 2:12 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat adult in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/21/13 2:12 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat adult in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult content.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 01:51 PM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I was just wishing I didn't have to read a few examples that to me were off-color. Honestly, those examples are no worse than 'Gnomovision' (which makes passes at compilers). You haven't begun to see off-color until you've seen some of

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Alexander Hall
On 11/21/13 20:51, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I do like the software; that's why I was reading about it. And I like the documentation too; I think it's very good. I was not intending to be critical of the documentation; rather, I was just wishing I didn't have to read a few examples that to me were

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Janne Johansson
2013/11/21 J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org On 11/21/13 12:23 PM, Nick Holland wrote: Stuff like this is part of the fun for people developing OpenBSD (and hopefully, fun for some of the users). Please understand that we don't want anyone to take away our fun. Hi, Nick. I understand

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Brad Smith
On 21/11/13 2:15 PM, za...@gmx.com wrote: On 2013-11-21 20:04, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Shawn K. Quinn [skqu...@rushpost.com] wrote: $ find /usr/src -type f | xargs grep -w fuck $ find /usr/src -type f | xargs grep -w shit find -type f ? How about just grep -r ?

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Todd Alan Smith
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir jlm...@imca-cat.org wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat adult in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch against

Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat adult in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch against -current that replaces the adult examples with cleaner alternatives. Would a

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Wayne Oliver
On 21 Nov 2013, at 21:04, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my*

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
On 11/21/13 12:23 PM, Nick Holland wrote: Stuff like this is part of the fun for people developing OpenBSD (and hopefully, fun for some of the users). Please understand that we don't want anyone to take away our fun. Hi, Nick. I understand the concept of fun within a project, and I'm

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread zalit
Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was nothing wrong with it.

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/21/13 12:23 PM, Nick Holland wrote: Stuff like this is part of the fun for people developing OpenBSD (and hopefully, fun for some of the users). Please understand that we don't want anyone to take away our fun. Hi, Nick. I understand the concept of fun within a project, and I'm all for

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
A reasonable person is the one who takes into consideration others, among other things. Yes, take into consider others, LIKE THE AUTHOR. Who, if you'll notice the copyright notice, is the premier other to be taken into consideration. I see gmx.com and yet you seem to know little of the moral

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/21/13 1:11 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was nothing wrong with it. The people who write code get to

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was nothing wrong with it. I feel

Re: Patch to remove adult content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 21:47, Alexander Hall wrote: I'm vegan, but I can cope with this: $ zgrep -rw deadbeef /usr/share/man/ /usr/share/man/man1/perlembed.1:\deadbeef /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq5.1:\# Pity the poor deadbeef. /usr/share/man/man5/bgpd.conf.5:tcp md5sig key