Re: Via C7, was Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-05-07 Thread James Crutchfield
On 5/6/08, Geoff Steckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use them for firewalls and disk servers. For that they work > quite well. Yes, graphics are painfully slow, but I think that's the > fault of the integrated graphics. Using a PCI graphics card seems > to speed them up quite a bit. > > One of

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-05-06 Thread James Crutchfield
On 4/9/08, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 > > would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly > Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of "technical > documentation" wil

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-11 Thread Henning Brauer
* frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-04-09 22:19]: > hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:35:18PM -0400, bofh said that > > Sun learnt a lot of lessons when it tried to merge sparc and x86 code bases > > together around the solaris 2.4 time, iirc. That's why things like zfs are > > endian neutra

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-10 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:25:50PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > well, if both codecs and the digital chip are well documented, how > they are connected is not too hard to guess. There's an EEPROM that > gives hints. You're right: "if". ;) But found some more info about the other chips: htt

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-10 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:47:37PM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:36:51PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > > > - first, envy24 is a generic digital only chip; it's connected to > >up to 4 codecs that do the analog<->digital conversions and that > >hold the

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-10 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:36:51PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > - first, envy24 is a generic digital only chip; it's connected to >up to 4 codecs that do the analog<->digital conversions and that >hold the gain knobs. So to add support for a new cards we must >add support for its

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-10 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:41:54AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:08:26AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > > Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the > > > available > > > capabilities? > > > > according to BUGS in envy(4), no. but emu(4)

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-10 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:12:49PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: >hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:35:18PM -0400, bofh said that >> Sun learnt a lot of lessons when it tried to merge sparc and x86 code bases >> together around the solaris 2.4 time, iirc. That's why things like zfs are >> endia

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Peter_APIIT
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: > > http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 > > would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly > Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of "technical > documentation" will be good enough for Open to be

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Zbigniew Baniewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:08:26AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > > Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the > available > > > capabilities? > > > > according to BUGS in envy(4), no. but e

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:08:26AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the available > > capabilities? > > according to BUGS in envy(4), no. but emu(4) doesn't support all > the features of the emu10k1 chips, either. I understand - but t

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:49:07PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > > So, perhaps the best audio-option would be something using VIA Envy24(HT) > > > - > > > which is reportedly better than Audigy(2)? Time to swap? > > > > env

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:49:07PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > So, perhaps the best audio-option would be something using VIA Envy24(HT) - > > which is reportedly better than Audigy(2)? Time to swap? > > envy(4) already exists in -current (and will be in 4.3). doesn't support > the HT version

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:57:05PM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:07:08PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > > > > It took us a very long time to get Sun to do this, and it was totally > > > worth it. It is kind of strange to us to have Sun suddenly be the > > > perfec

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:07:08PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: > > It took us a very long time to get Sun to do this, and it was totally > > worth it. It is kind of strange to us to have Sun suddenly be the > > perfect example of openness. So, perhaps the best audio-option would be something u

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:35:18PM -0400, bofh said that > Sun learnt a lot of lessons when it tried to merge sparc and x86 code bases > together around the solaris 2.4 time, iirc. That's why things like zfs are > endian neutral. OpenBSD started in the multi cpu world to begin with. i might

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread bofh
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:07 PM, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a bit OT, but > i just had the pleasure of meeting and ex-sun employee, working > mostly on kernel stuff. i dont know how similar the opensolaris > and solaris kernels are, but he said the solaris kernel code is > a beau

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:25:25AM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that > It took us a very long time to get Sun to do this, and it was totally > worth it. It is kind of strange to us to have Sun suddenly be the > perfect example of openness. a bit OT, but i just had the pleasure of meeting and ex

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
> http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 > > would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly > Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of "technical > documentation" will be good enough for Open to be able to support them... D

Re: "VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-04-09, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 > > would this be good news for the community? Too early to say, they haven't released anything yet.

"VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative"

2008-04-09 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of "technical documentation" will be good enough for Open to be able to support them... -jf -- In