Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-07 Thread Илья Шипицин
Look at www.fwbuilder.org It is good. It even has commercial support if you like. ÓÒÅÄÁ, 4 ÉÀÌÑ 2012 Ç. ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØ C. L. Martinez ÐÉÓÁÌ: > Hi all, > > I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled > implementations of conventional physical topologies and designs such >

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-05 Thread Andres Perera
that's not exciting at all. maybe one day i will write a vpf device. benefits include not having to be root to check an agreed upon subset of your states, running proxies and other applications that insert rules completely non-root other details have to be worked out so that sub-pfs can't run the

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-05 Thread Henning Brauer
* Andres Perera [2012-07-04 17:42]: > out of curiosity, how would you make pf(4) only handle rules > pertaining to a certain anchor depending on the process that's > interfacing with them? i ask because; e.g., pfctl -sr should only > show rules for that client, and other pf(4) operations need to

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-05 Thread Peter Kay
"C. L. Martinez" wrote: >Hi all, > > I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled >implementations of conventional physical topologies and designs such >as central and remote DMZs (my question has nothing to do with >virtualization platforms like ESXi/vSphere or Xen or KV

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Andres Perera
ok here's a more thought out idea a vpf is the same as a pf only that it has an ioctl that binds its device minor to a rule # in pf0. access to a vpf0 is the same, posix vfs permissions. (securelevel affects pf rule write-ability, but i don't think a per vpf equivalent is useful for this example).

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Andres Perera
out of curiosity, how would you make pf(4) only handle rules pertaining to a certain anchor depending on the process that's interfacing with them? i ask because; e.g., pfctl -sr should only show rules for that client, and other pf(4) operations need to be equally restricted. i know that originally

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent
Possible and not-recommendable at the same time I'd say. -- I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Bahador NazariFard
search about rdomain or VRF in openbsd these can solve your problem but you should do some work by hand (or brain) if you can design good plan you can solve your problem. route -exec, pfctl, rdomain, rtable may help you On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote: > Hi all, > > I wond

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Franco Fichtner
On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Franco Fichtner [2012-07-04 11:43]: >> No, the great catch here is that VSX offers you tools to manage up >> to 250 of these virtual monsters in a centralized fashion. You can >> also give control of these firewalls to your customers. You can

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread C. L. Martinez
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Henning Brauer wrote: > * Franco Fichtner [2012-07-04 11:43]: >> No, the great catch here is that VSX offers you tools to manage up >> to 250 of these virtual monsters in a centralized fashion. You can >> also give control of these firewalls to your customers. You

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* Franco Fichtner [2012-07-04 11:43]: > No, the great catch here is that VSX offers you tools to manage up > to 250 of these virtual monsters in a centralized fashion. You can > also give control of these firewalls to your customers. You can put > lots of OpenBSD guests on a host, but there's no w

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Franco Fichtner
On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:13 AM, C. L. Martinez wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jiri B wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:29:04AM +0200, C. L. Martinez wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled >>> implementations of conventional phys

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Rafal Bisingier
Hi On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:13 CEST "C. L. Martinez" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jiri B wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:29:04AM +0200, C. L. Martinez wrote: > >> > >> I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled > >> implementations of conventional

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Henning Brauer
* C. L. Martinez [2012-07-04 11:17]: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jiri B wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:29:04AM +0200, C. L. Martinez wrote: > >> I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled > >> implementations of conventional physical topologies and design

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread C. L. Martinez
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jiri B wrote: > On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:29:04AM +0200, C. L. Martinez wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled >> implementations of conventional physical topologies and designs such >> as central and remote

Re: "Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread Jiri B
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:29:04AM +0200, C. L. Martinez wrote: > Hi all, > > I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled > implementations of conventional physical topologies and designs such > as central and remote DMZs (my question has nothing to do with > virtualizat

"Virtualizing" firewalling scenarios in one physical OpenBSD host

2012-07-04 Thread C. L. Martinez
Hi all, I wonder if with OpenBSD is possible to create virtualized firewalled implementations of conventional physical topologies and designs such as central and remote DMZs (my question has nothing to do with virtualization platforms like ESXi/vSphere or Xen or KVM), like for example CheckPoint