Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2018-11-22, Chris Bennett wrote: > After digging into many pages source and I use NoScript, which has an > irritating side effect of actually hiding some of the JavaScript > present, I now see that they are using cloud hosting and some naughty > Google stuff. So I will get much more information

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 02:21:41PM -0800, Misc User wrote: > I'd look for software that has bug bounties. I'd also look at the CVEs for > each product and compare with the patch history. The delay between a flaw > being reported versus patched is going to be a much better indicator than Yes, tha

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Misc User
On 11/22/2018 12:56 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 09:55:35AM -0600, Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello Chris, There is something extremely weird going on around lately. People are easily take offense where no offense where intended (and hard to find anyway). Nick was just telling

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 02:24:55PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > > all on one server? > > And as someone who has run a number of mail servers for a number of > companies ... don't. Just don't. Running your own mail server is a > good way to accomplish nothing except wasting a lot of time and mak

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 09:55:35AM -0600, Boris Goldberg wrote: > Hello Chris, > > There is something extremely weird going on around lately. People are > easily take offense where no offense where intended (and hard to find > anyway). Nick was just telling you that (in his expert opinion) you >

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:50:38AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On 11/20/18 4:43 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: > > AMD? I have read about problems with non-CPU chips being compromised. > > Another architecture? I have never used anything other than Intel/AMD. > > I can't comment on SUN etc. but AMD w

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Chris, There is something extremely weird going on around lately. People are easily take offense where no offense where intended (and hard to find anyway). Nick was just telling you that (in his expert opinion) you shouldn't worry much about "Meltdown, Spectre, insecure motherboard chips",

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-22 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On 11/20/18 4:43 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: > AMD? I have read about problems with non-CPU chips being compromised. > Another architecture? I have never used anything other than Intel/AMD. I can't comment on SUN etc. but AMD would be the way to go if you can. Theo has said in a recent presentation

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-20 Thread Misc User
On 11/20/2018 8:43 AM, Chris Bennett wrote: I am almost certainly going to be replacing with a new server for an organization I am a member of. With all of this mess with Meltdown, Spectre, insecure motherboard chips,etc. I am pretty clueless on exactly what is going to be a secure set of server

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-20 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 08:31:14PM +, Kaya Saman wrote: > I don't think the response was assumed as such. It just is that there are so > many issues with corporate politics and higher ups thinking they know things > that gives OpenSource software a bad rep! Even once people didn't understand >

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-20 Thread Kaya Saman
On 11/20/18 8:11 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 02:24:55PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: On 11/20/18 11:43, Chris Bennett wrote: Unfortunately, if you have performance requirements, your choices are AMD and Intel. Older Intel and AMD chips aren't getting any support to deal wi

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-20 Thread Chris Bennett
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 02:24:55PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > On 11/20/18 11:43, Chris Bennett wrote: > > I am almost certainly going to be replacing with a new server for an > > organization I am a member of. > > With all of this mess with Meltdown, Spectre, insecure motherboard > > chips,etc. >

Re: With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-20 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/20/18 11:43, Chris Bennett wrote: > I am almost certainly going to be replacing with a new server for an > organization I am a member of. > With all of this mess with Meltdown, Spectre, insecure motherboard > chips,etc. > I am pretty clueless on exactly what is going to be a secure set of > s

With all this CPU/hardware mess, any advice on what to use for an organization?

2018-11-20 Thread Chris Bennett
I am almost certainly going to be replacing with a new server for an organization I am a member of. With all of this mess with Meltdown, Spectre, insecure motherboard chips,etc. I am pretty clueless on exactly what is going to be a secure set of server hardware. Intel, well no. AMD? I have read abo