Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Rod Dorman
On Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 05:18:56, chefren wrote: > On 05/31/05 11:00, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: >> Apple can make it damn near impossible to run anything except MacOS > > How? > > If the cpu does challenge response via the Internet to an Apple server > OK, but that wouldn't be reasonable. Perhaps n

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread chefren
On 05/31/05 11:00, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Apple can make it damn near impossible to run anything except MacOS How? If the cpu does challenge response via the Internet to an Apple server OK, but that wouldn't be reasonable. I believe various of these security features can be used by any OS

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 09:41 +0200, Dunceor . wrote: > I don't defend them and say this is a good thing but a hardware > supplier can never force you to use a specific OS. I wouldn't be so quick to say this. Apple can make it damn near impossible to run anything except MacOS and it is in fact in th

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Dunceor .
On 5/31/05, Dries Schellekens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ARM TrustZone is not enough to have bullet proof DRM system, as it does > not offer trusted I/O (i.e. secure channel to audio and video). > > Other than DRM TrustZone can be used to do some nice things to make > operating systems more sec

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Dries Schellekens
T. Ribbrock wrote: According to this German site (haven't found an English source yet) http://www.golem.de/0505/38320.html Intel has denied that the 945 had DRM built-in. They say that it only has the option to connect "Trusted Platform Modules" to it, which - according to Intel - is not news,

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Dries Schellekens
Dunceor . wrote: Well in the end the OS need to support it so this doesn't concern us. In some new ARM cards there are something called TrustZone which can also be used to implement DRM. What Intel does is only offer the ability to implement DRM in the OS through hardware support. I don't defe

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 10:56:30PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Intel announced its new dual-core Intel Pentium D processors and 945 > chipsets, [...] > However, sources indicate that being dual-core is not the major > feature of the new technologies. Guess what is? DRM. [...] According

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Vladislav Belogrudov
So there will be no need for dongling? ;) (probably only intel does not have host id or alike yet). One can think of identity management be it for securing or licensing.. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Dunceor .
Well in the end the OS need to support it so this doesn't concern us. In some new ARM cards there are something called TrustZone which can also be used to implement DRM. What Intel does is only offer the ability to implement DRM in the OS through hardware support. I don't defend them and say thi

Re: Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-31 Thread Dries Schellekens
Constantine A. Murenin wrote: 2002: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5858 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html etc I don't get what this (TCPA now known as TCG) has to do with new Intel products. This is completely unrelated. A TPM (trusted platform module) is not going to ena

Your worst dream comes true, thanks to Intel

2005-05-30 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
Intel announced its new dual-core Intel Pentium D processors and 945 chipsets, and combination thereof by the names of Lyndon and Anchor Creek. However, sources indicate that being dual-core is not the major feature of the new technologies. Guess what is? DRM. Yes, the one that might very well all