Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-29 Thread Adam
Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - When using tab completion, and you press tab two times to get a list > > of possibilities, ksh doesn't use less/more to present the > possibilities > > (i.e. they just scroll by and I have to use shift+page-up). > > > > Less/more works just fine for m

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-29 Thread Dan Farrell
> - When using tab completion, and you press tab two times to get a list > of possibilities, ksh doesn't use less/more to present the possibilities > (i.e. they just scroll by and I have to use shift+page-up). > Less/more works just fine for me in ksh... or maybe I installed something I've forgot

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-28 Thread Dan Harnett
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:22:13AM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: > Sam Chill wrote: > >ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a loss. > > FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back) > to bash: > > - When using tab completion, and you press tab two

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread smith
When I started using OpenBSD, I got tired of having to install Bash all the time so I just stuck with ksh. That was several years ago. I don't know much about shell programming nor do I do any configuring with ksh. Now everytime I use linux, I find bash very annoying. I don't know why, I just d

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 09:14:12AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Woodchuck" == Woodchuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Woodchuck> Perl has obviated the need for some sort of interactive interpreted > Woodchuck> system language. Bash has some new and expanded features, but not > Woo

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Nick Holland
Martin Toft wrote: Sam Chill wrote: ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a loss. FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back) to bash: - When using tab completion, and you press tab two times to get a list of possibilities, ksh doesn't use

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Woodchuck" == Woodchuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Woodchuck> Perl has obviated the need for some sort of interactive interpreted Woodchuck> system language. Bash has some new and expanded features, but not Woodchuck> enough to make its use compelling. Since discovering Perl, the longes

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:22:13AM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: > Sam Chill wrote: > >ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a loss. > > FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back) > to bash: > > - When using tab completion, and you press tab two

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Martin Toft
Martin Toft wrote: FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back) to bash: I forgot one: - I miss the "for (( expr1 ; expr2 ; expr3 )) ; do list ; done" construct. Of course, using e.g. jot, it is possible to do semantically equivalent stuff. /Martin

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Martin Toft
Sam Chill wrote: ksh does most everything bash does too, so it doesn't seem like a loss. FWIW, I miss a couple of features in ksh and consider to switch (back) to bash: - When using tab completion, and you press tab two times to get a list of possibilities, ksh doesn't use less/more to pres

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:02:32PM -0500, Default User wrote: > I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . . > why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? Size, speed[1], license (PD vs. GPL), possibly standard conformance. > Also, what ever happened to the stati

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-27 Thread Woodchuck
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Default User wrote: > I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . . > why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? > > Also, what ever happened to the statically-compiled bash that used to be > available in OpenBSD packages? > > BTW, thanks

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-26 Thread STeve Andre'
On Sunday 27 August 2006 00:02, Default User wrote: > I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . . > why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? > > Also, what ever happened to the statically-compiled bash that used to be > available in OpenBSD packages? > > BTW, tha

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-26 Thread mal content
On 27/08/06, Default User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? ... No flames, please. Just honest thoughtful discussion. That's probably not a question that's going to result in honest, thoughtful discussion. MC

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-26 Thread Sam Chill
On 8/27/06, Default User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . . why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? ksh is free while bash is GNU licensed. If it is possible to use free (bsd, public domain, etc) software it is preferable.

Re: ksh vs bash

2006-08-26 Thread Greg Thomas
On 8/26/06, Default User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . . why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? ... No flames, please. Just honest thoughtful discussion. Sure, dude. I take it you haven't figured out where the arch

ksh vs bash

2006-08-26 Thread Default User
I just know I'm going to regret asking this, but . . . why does OpenBSD have ksh as the default shell, rather than bash? Also, what ever happened to the statically-compiled bash that used to be available in OpenBSD packages? BTW, thanks for making ksh the default shell for root - IMHO much ea